Hello community, can you recommend a soap dispenser and a wi...
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There is now a HUGE number of people who are fragrance-sensitive or have MCS. I'm one of them.
The odours of conventional cleaning products, air fresheners, dryer sheets, etc. make me sick. They give me headaches, burning eyes, feelings of tightness and tingling, respiratory irritation, heart palpitations, nausea, dry mouth and many other symptoms. I've had more than one vacation ruined by fragranced bedrooms that were making me ill. Surveys indicate that about one-third of the population in the US and other countries is fragrance-sensitive or has MCS or prefers fragrance-free spaces.
Please AirBnB stop ignoring this incredibly large group of people. You currently have filters for 13 different accessibility features. Could you PLEASE add another one, "fragrance-free"? Fragrance-free properties actually exist, it's just that you can't easily find them, at least not on the airbnb site itself. (Google search can be used as a workaround, but it's far from perfect.) Thanks!
@Brian450 In an ideal world we would all be able to get exactly what we want but without going into detail, I essentially agree with @Anonymous s very well thought out comments. I do appreciate that it must be like hunting for a ‘Unicorn’ when looking for the perfect listing that complies with all your requirements and all I can do is suggest that like a number of my guests, you message prior to booking and ask the host if they can avoid the use of certain products prior to your arrival. We always ask our guests if they have any special requirements and do out best to accommodate them.
Kate just because several options could be offered by AirBnB to describe attributes sought by sensitive people does not mean that I or anyone else for that matter seek all of them simultaneously.
We don't seek or need unicorns. We mostly need short-term rentals without dryer sheet or air freshener odors. Everything else is bonus.
We don't ask people who want conventional amenities to "hunt" for them. I can search right now for properties matching "crib", "iron" and "hair dryer", and find the 181 properties listed on AirBnB that satisfy these requirements. The people who need this specific combination of things are not being required to individually contact hundreds or thousands of hosts and individually ask. I just want the same thing.
If conventional amenities and luxuries are searchable in exquisite detail, then it's not too much to ask to have a box to search for "no air fresheners used" and "unscented linens".
It matters not just because it's a convenience for guests. It matters because it demonstrates to hosts that this is important. More hosts will reconsider their use of air fresheners and scented laundry detergents if AirBnB educates them on this issue by supporting no air fresheners used and unscented linens as an amenity.
@Brian450 You are missing the point that 'iron' is a specific thing, there is either an iron or not. Noise, air quality, healthy mattress and fragrance free are subjective.
Only when you phrase them the way you just did. These things can be phrased much more specifically, and then they become specific and objective. I've already suggested
"no air fresheners used" and "unscented linens".
Whether the host sprays Febreze or not, or has Glade plugins installed, is a specific and objective thing, just like whether there is an iron in the rental or not.
Likewise, the laundry detergent used on the linens is not a matter of opinion. Is it 7th Generation Free & Clear, or Tide, or perhaps even Fabuloso? These are objective differences, and for about a third of the population, they can make-or-break the experience.
Amen!
Whether a mattress is "healthy" is indeed subjective, but whether it's "certified organic" is not.
Fragrance free is not subjective! Neither is air quality or a healthy matress
Yes!!! Kudos to this
And we don't need unicorns, we need a business to care about those with medical conditions who need search criteria that recognizes them as well.
well put Brian450. This is not only about enabling MCS suffereings (and people who are just disgusted by these toxic odors) it's also about educating profoundly ignorant hosts who have never even HEARD of MCS or even CONSIDERED the possibility that their gl@de plugin might be highly toxic, or those scented linens might give a LOT of people headaches.
and then there's fabr#ze . REALLY disgusting but almost universally embraced as a "clean" smell. The thing is, there ARE healthy ways to achieve a "clean smell" without carpet bombing people with toxic scents bombs.
Sure, most people walk into a room and smell that "clean" frabr#ze smell, and a huge sense of comfort and joy fills their soul, but there is a FAST growing number of us that instantly KNOW that our body is now under ATTACK. It's no joke once you start learning about these toxic products, they ARE toxic. People need to know. Air BnB hosts need to know.
Yes they are WARY of those SUPER "picky" people that don't want to breath toxic chemicals into their bodies all night long, or don't like dog smells, I get that. Those are seen as the NIGHTMARE guests for many hosts...I get that. Still...this is a real and present danger for some, and a huge discomfort for others, should these people be ignored completely? if you can search for places that include WINE GLASSES, you should be able to search for places that USE NO AIR FRESHENERS at the very LEAST. my GOD those are gross....some people think they are wizards because they BOMB the place with W#zard air freshener, but those chemical actually DO cause neurological damage. should we PUNISH the most intelligent guests by forcing them to CALL each listing to see if the host is profoundly ignorant of these things? we also just want to know HOW ignorant the host is, these additional checkboxes would give us a great idea without having to call.
NO AIR FRESHENERS USED
UNSCENTED LINENS (with some explanation like: no dryer sheets or toxic environmentally unsound detergent and/or fabric softener)
NO CARPET
just those 3 checkboxes would be HUGE for a LOT of (highly intelligent aware) people.
and remember, this isn't JUST about helping people find healthy accomadations, this is ALSO about stopping pollution. Those toxic laundry products are devastating our planet, it's no joke, it's very serious pollution when you are using these toxic laundry products and it goes RIGHT into the ocean in many cases.
people need to be taught about these things, and people who are well aware of these things need to be able to avoid them more easily. This is a thing. it's a big deal. It's happening now, it's a revolution, it's the future as more and MORE people wake up to these facts. There ARE healthy alternatives to this horrible stuff, and make no mistake, this stuff is a HORROR show for your health whether you have MCS or not, and it's also a HORROR show for the planet (big time)
go and look at the pollution in the ocean, there are a LOT of dryer sheets floating at sea, so people can pollute their bodies AND the planet at the same time with those! woohooo. and all those scented toxic detergents and fabric "softeners" are flowing right into our oceans. Really a bad situation. Is Air BnB a bull**bleep** company like most of the companies in the world today? or can they at LEAST make a TINY effort to help raise awareness and help people avoid toxic exposure to their bodies AND help reduce pollution to the planet.
if we have NON SMOKING as an option, we MUST also have NO AIR FRESHENERS USED.
this issue won't go away...it's only going to get more and more imporant as more and more people learn about this crap. Just a few new checkboxes isn't going to kill anyone or start a barrage of refund request, it just isn't.
in fact, if someone sees the "no air fresheners" checkbox has been selected, and then there ARE fragrances, which WILL happen, you will have an unhappy guest but the same is true if they check the "No smoking" box and then you smell someone smoking...hosts should not LIE to people in the description right?
if they are honest, and there ARE no air fresheners used, you will have a win win. a happy host and a happy client. as far as disgruntled guests, we just want honesty here, that's all. Lack of honesty SHOULD be grounds for a refund wouldn't you agree? Lack of awareness is a part of this issue, but if these new "woke" checkboxes are EXPLAINED, then the non woke will at least be able to be honest and at the end of the day... all MOST guests want is simply an honest listing.
I think it’s reasonable to have a fragrance free filter. MCS is going up 200-300% per year! 32.2 of the population is sensitive to fragrances. Let’s say you disinfect with lysol, at least make sure it’s the unscented version (I’m sure it’s still toxic) but that can help people with mild to medium MCS. You have freebreze air refreshner in your bathroom. Buy the unscented version (it works just as well) they also have the “air” version that’s scented, but not as heavily scented. Dove unscented soap costs just as much as the scented version. Air purifiers will help with the virus also (probably better than any disinfectant since the chance of getting it from a surface is very small. The CDC said it’s like 1 in 2,800). Pantene has a FF or it might be unscented version. I don’t use any of those products. I shop at wholefoods. But you get the point that you can easily switch the products to the FF/unscented versions. If restaurants accommodate people with nut/dairy/gluten allergies and schools have nut free zones. Why can’t we get accommodated?? You can easily see how healthy a product is on ewg for a health score
I have encountered the same issue as thousands of others that I have heard from have as well. I have also sent you letters requesting this search filter. Some people are in desperate need of safe rentals. You are missing out on a market for these people. Also some people are disabled by this, and need accomodations for this disability.
@Lisa6844 Like most major companies based in the US, Airbnb refers to the ADA for guidance on which disabilities are protected and what features are necessary to accommodate them. So if you're campaigning for systemic change to have this condition formally recognized as a disability, that would be the place to start: https://www.ada.gov/contact_drs.htm
As far as filters are concerned, the list of special needs and preferences that people have requested a filter for is endless, and I'm afraid you're overestimating how effective the existing filters are to begin with. One feature that would actually unite all of these different wishes is a keyword search. Why not lobby for that?
Andrew i"m sure you mean well but people with MCS have been trying for decades to get MCS officially and generally recognized under ADA, without success, even though individuals have succeeded in getting themselves recognized.
General recognition is not happening anytime soon. An explanation would lead into politics, and far away from the topic of this thread, so I won't go into it.
There is an untapped market here - a large group of people who are mildly to moderately MCS, would like to travel, but can't, or only rarely, with great difficulty, plus people who just feel better when they're not being pickled in Tide, Febreze and Fabuloso. Businesses like AirBnB don't need to wait for the government's permission to tap new markets and make money.
What I and many others like me are trying to tell the travel industry is: please take our money. All we want is air that's not polluted by fragrances. The exact same thing already exists, and has existed for a long time, for people who don't wish to breathe cigarette smoke. We have "smoking" and "non-smoking" rooms in the hospitality industry. There is no reason why the same distinction cannot be introduced between "fragranced" and "non-fragranced". All it takes is industry power to make it happen.
It makes no sense to me why we should have to individually contact and negotiate with countless potential hosts, only to be turned down by almost all, while my neighbor Joe gets to find what he wants simply by checking "BBQ grill" and "Hot Tub".
It's true that the needs of the environmentally sensitive are varied, though I would hardly call them endless. If these needs and the corresponding filters/features/amenities are too much for the existing service, then create a spinoff service. How about CleanAirBnB? Again, untapped market. There is no commercial service in existence right now for marketing "healthy" short-term rentals. This needs to change.
Great idea!