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@Branka-and-Silvia0 Ugh that is scary to hear about the increase in cancellations. It worries me. But on the upside, I agree I have had much more long term bookings which has been great.
@Deirdre12yes, but they were not bc guests get sick of Covid. Their reasons are: ... plans had changed .....or they didn't read house rules and description ..... or they thought 2-7 PM check-in time is "not so strict" ...or they missed the plane... etc..
I don't know is it a sign-effect of Covid or not, but people are very confused lately 🙂
For anyone who's interested in the ending, I was only able to rebook 3 of the 11 nights after the cancellation, and those were at a lower nightly rate than my initial booking because I had to lower prices because it was so close to the date. Extremely frustrating.
Thanks for sharing the end of this sad story.
I truly hope this doesn’t become a trend.
Ultimately both hosts and guests will suffer.
Thank you @Richard531 and @Brian2036 and thanks to all of you for listening and sympathizing -- it truly helped me deal with my feeling of unfairness and anger about all this. I really appreciate you all.
I have had several cancellations when last lock down was announced and had no hesitation in giving full refund because it is circumstances beyond guests control, i know i would like a refund if i found myself in that situation, its a shame some hosts are only in it for the money and don't show some compassion.
I had to cancel an international flight because of covid in March last year and still unable to fly but Air New Zealand are still holding my credits till next year and i appreciate that also when things get back to normal i am sure guests will remember my listing.
@Max144 You're a dang good man.
However, assuming someone will remember your listing and book later simply due to your generosity is a little optimistic. We are not the Time Square Marriott with hundreds of rooms available ~365. We are insignificant tiny businesses that people book because they get impulsive looking at our pretty pictures and we're a smidge cheaper than the listing next door. These same guests are more likely to just book whomever has the best deal once they decide to travel again. So this means: unless you rebooked those exact nights you allowed to be canceled to new travelers, you are simply giving your money away. Period.
My wife and I had a pretty awesome Bora Bora/Morena/Hawaiian cruise adventure planned in April of 2020. The whole trip imploded, obviously. We got our money back from the cruise ship (we'll never go on that cruise again), we got our Hawaiian Airlines flights reimbursed (we'll never fly those again). But then the French Bee Airline (discount French Polynesia airline) that had our long haul 1-way segments DID NOT give us our money back. I fought and tried. $2K gone. French Bee got paid, pointed to the contract I signed about it being non-refundable, and that was the end of it. I even tried a CC dispute. Nothing. And if I were to MAYBE one day try to cobble together this itinerary again? I'd just fly the best price/most convenient carrier we could find. Even if it were French Bee. And had French Bee given me my money back? It would have zero impact on me flying them again.
The same goes for 99% of Airbnb travelers.
Again, you're a dang good man. I admire your generosity. I really do. But you're just giving money away.
There's a reason why professional gamblers NEVER tip their dealers. It's the same reason why hosts that do this for a living want to protect their money from folks that want to cancel for ANY reason.
Interesting choice you made there @Max144 but would you object if Airbnb did decide to drop the policy of refunding due to covid and supported Hosts instead?
Sorry I don't. @Mary996 I think as long as Airbnb are asking for proper proof, I support guests being able to cancel penalty free if they have Covid. It's happened to me six times already this year.
@Huma0 I ask my guests to do a lateral flow test and provide a negative result to check in. I think all homeshare hosts should be doing this.
Agreed @Helen3 if Guests genuinely have covid gosh we don't want them coming!!
But as @Huma0 and @Jenny349 and others are saying guests refer to their genuine reasons in the dialogues disclosing their true rationale. In such instances then there is a case to be made out for the burden of cancellation to be shared. I concurr with that.
What's to stop guest lying is Airbnb asking for proof they have a positive Covid test and not letting guests book until they provide full names of ALL guests staying so they could check the name against the COVID test. @Mary996
@Deirdre12 @Allie228 @Mike-and-Jane0 ... above... As you're also part of this conversation and we seem to be devising policy to propose to @Airbnb. I wondered if we could hammer out between ourselves what alterations (if any) we would like to see.
There had been a policy of complete refunds in the event of cancellation due to covid .. But now as covid becomes part of everyday life are there grounds to alter this?
Exactly. I've had instances in the past when a guest has clearly stated their reasons for cancelling in the message thread (not eligible for EC refunds) and then, realised that they were not going to get a full refund. Next thing you know, they have contacted Airbnb and got that full refund under the EC. How?
When this happened before, Airbnb would not tell me what 'evidence' the guest had given due to the privacy policy. But I know the reasons the guest was cancelling, because they TOLD me. Once the refund was already issued (without checking with me), CS has no interest in reading the message thread to see if the guest was indeed lying.
Also, the refunds happened way too fas (literally within minutes) for Airbnb to have verified any proof, had it been required. So, I'm pretty sure that guests were just asked to 'attest' to the fact.
I wonder if that is still the case? I haven't seen the 'attest' language used recently on Airbnb policy documents, but that doesn't mean it's not still happening. Has anyone else seen announcements etc. where Airbnb promised they would stop doing that?