MGTOW | AIRBNB in Aberdeen Washington | Host stole $137 from me

Joshua574
Level 2
Hemet, CA

MGTOW | AIRBNB in Aberdeen Washington | Host stole $137 from me

The airbnb host ** that i'm with now and i've been with for the past 6 months has decided not to report her payments from me to airbnb. She's been blackmailing me by forcing me to pay $137 for a broken plastic door in the mini refrigerator that she put in the room. The door was already broken and then she blackmailed me into paying for it or else i have to leave. The problem for me is that i have nowhere else to go that's as cheap as this. She's letting me live in a tent in the backyard and i've been back here for about 4 months. I also paid her over $500 ( i have a receipt with her signiture) for the room.  She told me she doesn't want to report to airbnb. Now she's telling me she won't give me the refrigerator that i paid for and trying to force me into a corner. I've already paid her over $2000 under the table and the rest is through airbnb. She's been a horrible person to me and i can't take it anymore. I have to tell someone about it. I have video proof, receipts and images of my tent in the backyard. Please keep this confidential for now, i don't want to get kicked out. But this is horrible airbnb service. The host i've been with has been horrible. I've only been stuck here because of COVID-19 has destroyed my business. I had to borrow money from all sorts of friends and family just to pay for this. I have nowhere to go. I can't let her know i'm reporting to you. I have nowhere else to go. I can't let her know i'm reporting to you. I have nowhere else to go. I've got no money left. i've had to pay her everything. COVID-19 slowed my business down and i'm stuck. I've got all the evidence in my airbnb inbox. I lost over $200 in food because she refuses to give me a refrigerator. All of my food has rotted and went bad because i've had to live out of ice chest because of this woman. I need some help here. I've already reported her to airbnb. #mgtow #airbnb

 

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Emiel1
Level 10
Leeuwarden, The Netherlands

@Joshua574 

I noticed you received nice reviews from your host in the first months. A lot seem to have changed. Not clear to me what you expect from this community. If you still have an official Airbnb reservation than complain about it at Airbnb.

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

You want something kept confidential, but you just posted the host's name, her listing, and your whole story on a public forum that anyone can read. 

And what do photos of cats and ladybugs have to with anything?

 

This just a discussion forum for hosts and guests. I'm not sure what you think anyone here could do to help.

 

If you have made payment arrangements with this person outside the platform, there is nothing Airbnb can or will do about that. Once an original Airbnb booking has come to an end, both hosts and guests are free to make whatever booking and payment arrangements they choose- Airbnb doesn't own the relationship between hosts and guests and they aren't going to get involved with anything that wasn't part of the Airbnb booking.

 

I am sorry that you have lost your job and ended up staying with someone who appears to be behaving badly, but it seems to me your only option is to leave.

Are there no govt. or non-profit housing options for those who've found themselves in dire financial straits due to the pandemic?

 

  

 

@Joshua574

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

@Joshua574 I've read your good reviews your host wrote of you and you of her when you were staying in her listings. You now appear to be living in a tent in her garden, under a private arrangement. I assume this because a) the host does not have a tent listing b) you indicated you were paying her PRIVATELY = OFF PLATFORM.

 

If you are paying off platform, this arrangement has NOTHING AT ALL to do with  Airbnb. It is private between the two of you. Airbnb can do nothing to mediate because it's nothing to do with them. If you report her, they will not want to know, your tent arrangement is private, off platform, nothing to do with Airbnb.

 

It's not against terms and conditions to make private arrangements with ex-guests; it is only wrong to use the platform to make initial contact with a provider, then do things privately, resulting in no commission for Airbnb.

 

It sounds as if the host let you camp in the garden cos you were homeless & could no longer afford a proper room? - Which sounds kind of her. Obviously I don't know why the relationship has gone sour... But try & see it from the host's point of view; I guess she's having second thoughts about being a homeless charity? 

 

Sad as your situation is, the host owes you nothing. Airbnb guests have NO rights as long term tenants; Airbnb is designed for short term rental, not permanent housing. (But you are not even an Airbnb guest at present!)   And if a guest is dissatisfied, the normal way of proceeding is to leave! And get a refund for unused nights.

 

If the host is trying to manipulate you by reporting you to Airbnb, well, your current arrangement is off platform, so she can't! And as for your previous stays, she gave you good reviews, so she can hardly complain about the times you WERE an Airbnb guest.

 

It sounds as tho' you need a new place to stay.... Is there no social housing for people down on their luck where you live? - I hope things look better for you soon.

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

Right! - I've just viewed your DISGRACEFUL youtube videos! 

@Joshua574 

This poor woman! - You are clearly SQUATTING in her garden, your rental agreement has come to an end, you have NO right to be in her garden!  "I need to move out of here as soon as is humanly possible" you say. SO WHY DON'T YOU?! 

 

Yes she  HAS helped you out of the goodness of her heart! Why is the neighbour "snitching" when you turn up/go in the house for a shower? - That suggests you are SQUATTING, not there with poor Joni's blessing.

 

"She tries to say it's her house, but it's a business." - You are wrong, Airbnbs ARE private homes, especially when the owner lives upstairs & rents downstairs. You have NO right to be there against the homeowner's will. All Airbnb hosts rent to who they want, and are free to turn away the entitled, the badly behaved, and anyone who overstays without paying! - Or who sets up camp in the garden without permission! 

 

 She is NOT harrassing you, and you are NOT a tenant. She does NOT owe you money for your perished food! If you were stupid enough to buy $200 worth of food without a fridge, it's YOUR fault, not hers.

 

You behaviour is evil & menacing. Go away and stop menacing this POOR woman. Yes, she CAN tell you this is her house and you are just freeloading.... because that appears to be the truth!

 

@Sarah977 @Emiel1 

 

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

I've watched the youtube vids you posted @Joshua574 . How I HATE that horrible man, ranting & swearing at that woman! He does NOT have a tenancy, his Airbnb contract is OVER, and  SOMEONE ELSE  has rented the downstairs Airbnb listing. **

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We have rights in this country as a United States Citizen.

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You posted on a public forum asking for advice. You don't get to dictate the advice you receive.

 

You don't have the "right" to squat in someone's backyard just because she rented you a space for 6 months previous to that or to continue to avail yourself of her facilities. No one owes you a place to live for free. You've shown your true colors here with your nasty, ignorant responses. If I were Joni, I'd be getting the police to remove you from my property.

@Joshua574

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

I'm not a socialist.

 

You are another 60 year old cat lady who thinks she owns the world. Sorry to say you do not. The tenant laws state differently. 

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

You are NOT a tenant.

We have human rights. You are just another cat lady. 

@Joshua574  Maybe you should read the Proclamation by the Governor of Washington, in regards to the "moratorium" you mention so frequently.  It protects tenants in your case if they were "Legally" residing at the dwelling. You are in an under that table agreement which does not entitle you to the same rights as a legal tenant in a legal rental agreement. 

 

That being said, while I do extend empathy for those suffering loses during this pandemic, the way you speak to that lady is distasteful. It is quite obvious she wishes you gone, and you are refusing based on some legal stipulation you think protects you. If I were her I would have called the Police Department to remove you long ago. 

 

Joshua574
Level 2
Hemet, CA

Go away feminist 

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

I'm not a feminist.