Awkward situation

Peyvand0
Level 4
London, United Kingdom

Awkward situation

Hello,

 

Just want to share my current experience and also see how others might deal/have dealt with something similar.

 

I'll start from the beginning:

 

This guest puts in a booking request with a very brief message about what their plans are. Looking back I probably should have discussed and pointed things a bit more but their message and profile was enough to give me the impression they would be fine. (I'm usually quite good at spotting ones that won't be a good match)

 

From then on the communication is non existant. I messaged once approved to make sure that they read over the confirmation with address, directions, rules etc and let me know if there's any questions and also what their travel plans are to arrange check in/out. I don't hear anything for a while, but there's a little bit of time so I leave it for a bit. (There's a couple of weeks to go)

 

A week before arrival I get in touch again, just to ask about times as we need to work it around our schedule. I hear nothing. A few days go by and I get in touch again saying I'm very sorry but I must push for times as we need to make plans around our day, in fact we've had to go and make plans so these are the windows of time for check in / out, asking them to confirm. They reply with one sentence saying they hardly have wifi access. Not useful since it's the main way of communicating since Airbnb exists online! Check in time wasn't confirmed. I replied saying in that case whilst they have a bit of access to please make sure they've taken down all the details in the booking confirmation so they know where they're going and to keep my number handy, and to please confirm the check in time asap. They give a check in time and I say ok.

 

 

On the day of arrival:

I get a message whilst I'm out saying can they check in earlier. I say that I'm out so we need to stick to the agreed time as I'm not near by, but if I do manage to get back earlier I'll let them know.

 

I send a text as I know their wifi situation is apparently sketchy saying that I can be back 30mins before the agreed time if that makes any difference. They don't come early. The time comes, and I get a message asking what the full address is! This was my "oh **bleep**" moment as it proves they clearly haven't read or bothered with anything if they are this disorganised. I give the address and wait. I try to call to see if they're lost but can't connect. I message to ask if everything is ok. They ask can they leave yet...!! I say yes, I'm here waiting. An hour and a half goes by from the previous agreed time and I'm now running late for a quick errand I was meant to run. I send a message explaining this and saying that I will be gone for 10mins or so if they happen to arrive in this time, and will be back very shortly so not to worry. They say they haven't even left yet, but can they leave now as they are ready, and I'm like yes! I get home, still nothing. I call and manage to connect and it goes something like this:

 

Me: Hello, is everything ok?

Them: Yeah I'm ready to leave, I'm just waiting for you.

Me: Sorry, I don't understand what the problem is. We agreed a time, I've been waiting for you.

Them: But you said you had to go out so I was waiting for you to get back.

Me: I went out after waiting an hour and a half for you, and said I would be 10mins, and I'm back now. Where are you coming from, do you need directions getting here?

Them: No , I was waiting-

Me: Ok it seems like we've both been waiting for each other, but I'm here so do come.

Them : Ok, will make my way now!

 

They get here, I apologise (although really don't think I'm in the wrong here) for all the kafuffle and they have the cheek to say it's ok, just a misunderstanding on both sides! Anyway, I show them around, point out the house manual, talk through stuff all seems ok. Try to chat , they're not really up for it. They're here for training and I ask where it's based and they reply Amsterdamn (obviously meant where in London) so I think we're on completely different wavelengths. They settle in and I'm out for the eve.

 

Day one:

I should explain here that our listing is for a very specific kind of guest as it is literally Airbnb in the truest sense. The set up is an airbed in our living room. I sometimes work from home and need to use the printer etc so it is understood (and we make very clear in the listing, confirmation and house manual) what the expectations are. It's for guests who are generally out and about, not shut away in the room the whole time. We have great reviews and the people who stay are great and 'get it'.

 

They don't wake up till about 1pm (fine) and I say hello, they're very brief and head out shutting the living room door (they are asked to prop it open when out so I know it's ok to clean and have access). I go in to clean and the place is a tip - clothes all over the floor, sweet wrappers and lollipop sticks on the carpet too. The room also has a very strong whiff of weed... I hoover around their stuff , prop the door open and give them the benefit of the doubt thinking maybe they've just got it with them and that they'll be going outside to smoke. They come back and say they're keeping the door shut because they don't want the cats going all over their stuff (we clearly state that we have 2 cats before you book), I say that's fine when they're in but when they go out please leave the door open. 

 

That evening my husband and I can really strongly smell weed. They don't emerge all eve so we don't get the chance to ask him, and also am still trying to give benefit of the doubt thinking maybe it's one of our neighbours. I'm also aware of the dynamic that's starting to happening and don't want to be too confrontational.

 

Day two:

I'm out in the morning but I come back, and they're out (having left the living room door shut again). I go in to clean and need to use the printer. And absolute pig sty again, I take pics to cover my back a bit, and also see on the table their weed grinder and there's tobacco and ash all over the window sill. Suspicions confirmed. I had to go out again so left a note with the house manual politely reminding them that it's a non-smoking flat, so they need to go outside if they want to smoke (I don't mention what they're smoking). I also say that I hope this doesn't come as a surprise as it's all in the listing before they book, and that they shouldn't take it the wrong way, and to feel free to chat to one of us. I'm then out until late, but my husband manages to see them and said he had a brief chat about it, but that they weren't very forthcoming and seemed to be a bit taken aback and surprised by it all.

 

It's now day three. They're staying until Friday. I haven't seen them arise yet and am about to head out so don't know when I'll next see them.

 

I hate feeling like a parent and don't want it to be awkward.  Any ideas on how to deal best? Dreading the review.

 

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Peyvand0
Level 4
London, United Kingdom

Update:

 

Guest had stopped smoking after I'd had a word and re-iterated the house rules they agreed to. They made a bit of an effort the day after but were still incredibly messy (unwashed cups etc, dirty laundry all over the floor, not just me being fussy!), and being shut away in the room for most of the day and only going out for an hour and half 2 hours max a day (we specify several times in the description and rules that it is not for guests to be shut away). 

 

Yesterday I asked them about check out and they confirmed to me without me having to remind them that it was midday as previously agreed.  It's now 12.40 - I have a quick turnaround between guests and a lot of cleaning to do from this one! Gave half an hour grace, still no sign.  Knocked on the door and said that I have a quick turnaround so they need to hurry up... they're still getting dressed.  1pm they're finally gone an hour late and I'm having to rush about.

 

I can't work out whether they're so laid back and don't 'get' that any of this might be an issue or whether they just don't care.

 

Now to try and word the review... I'll be surprised if I get 5 stars from them either (even though I feel like I should get  a sainthood 😉 )

The review in this case would be particularly easy, well keeping it short might be hard.

David
Peyvand0
Level 4
London, United Kingdom

Ha well that's just it! I don't want to seem like I'm just having a go and listing lots of stuff off.

 

They've got another really recent review , also in London  (they've been staying in different places over the past few weeks for different things) saying "Was pleasant and was friendly Happy to host again." ..... Did  I do something wrong?! Nearly 3 hours late for check in, and hour late to check out. The room was treated like a pig sty and they didn't clean up after themselves. Smoking weed in a clearly listed non smoking flat. etc etc. Their "pleasant" demeanor is what I found incredibly frustrating as they would seem nice but clearly not be paying attention. I've got half a mind to message the host who left the review to ask if they're hiding something!

Hi Peyvand

You deserve a medal for all you have gone through!

Like you, I live in the home, so I have decided to have a day between guests to give me time to clean up, do laundry etc. You can put a block on your calendar to to do this. I found same day guests too exhausting and also they don't always check-in when they say they will!

With these guests, I would give an honest review. They are the sort of guests who should be renting an apartment, not sharing someone's home. Who wants to pass them along to other hosts? Since they won't see your review until it is posted there isn't much they can do and you do have the option to respond if you disagree with what they post.

Good luck with future bookings!

Rosemary

 

@Peyvand0I find that many hosts, particularily ones who dont have a lot of contact or have multiple places sometimes just leave a generic and short review that is the same for all guests, which can certainly be frustrating. 

Hi

 

Yes when I looked up the host a lot of the reviews for them were "I didn't get to meet XXX " so I think the positive review was a case of copy & paste from an absent landlord.

 

I got my claim in the end (although Airbnb had to deal with it as this guest didn't respond). They haven't left a review yet either but I have for them. Had to be honest about it, and hopefully it'll be the last time they use Airbnb anyway.

 

Meanwhile the guest I have at the moment is lovely, so all back to normal!

I know I and many "remote" hosts struggle to leave guests reviews as I have whole house, 5 hours from my home. My communication is limited and I only hear about major problems from my cleaning crew and have only once in 10 years. Had my Nieghbors say anything about a guest. So the only thing I have to comment on is communication.

Andrew
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It sounds like they cared enough to correct themselves. I am glad it was an amenable parting (as in "AMEN! They are ABLE to leave.") and that you took the high road. Kudos to you.

I do the same as you with the confirmation of checkout time. Exactly at the time, I open my door to the rest of the house and start my clean up. I have a four-hour turn around and need every minute.

Thank you for the update and I hope that you get a great review
and not a "Dude, you harshed our mellow."
Peyvand0
Level 4
London, United Kingdom

Thank you for your humourous and encouraging replies! Gotta laugh.

 

Hopefully that's my lot for now and I can get back to hosting the lovely guests I usually have.

Peyvand0
Level 4
London, United Kingdom

And like the cherry on top, they've also destroyed the lampshade on the ceiling! My first time putting in a claim...

What is there left to say?? I don't even want to ask how they managed to destroy a lampshade on the ceiling!  You need a holiday in Vancouver....your room is ready!

Bob39
Level 10
Goldfield, NV

I'll comment here that I have discovered that poor communication by the guest from the beginning is a red flag that results in a bad guest experience. The best guests I have had were usually those that had good communcation skills and habits, from the initial inquiry all the way to the checkout time, and the worst guests I have had were those with little communication or poor communication, from the beginning. So this gives you an early warning signal.

Christine1
Level 10
Glenbrook, Australia

@Peyvand0, if you have remained friendly and non judgemental throughout this process, then you will receive good reviews. Tap into your sense of humour as this event will no doubt be one to smile over in the future. The type of guests who are happy to sleep on a real airbed, will no doubt be hoping for a flexible open minded host as well. 

They sound relatively harmless, just make sure everything is accounted for before they depart. 

Best regards, happi hosting.