Bad rating no reasons

Alain311
Level 3
Montreal, Canada

Bad rating no reasons

Hi everyone,  

 

I wanted to share with you my experience with one of my last guest, as I am so so so frustrated. She didn’t do anything bad but it's more her rating that came at a shock for me. I know there's nothing we can do about bad reviews but accept them and eventually leave a response. Although I wonder if responding might be more damaging or make a bad review more visible, whereas it could just disappear among others. 

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before that 1 night guest stay, I had these ratings (with 82 reviews) 

overall: 4.9* - cleanliness: 5* – accuracy:5* – communication:5* –check in: 5* - location: 4.8* - value 4.9* 

On overall, I had 80% of 5* and 20% of 4*(most 4 are when I started, I improved every details) (my worst was a 3* on communication and I take blame for it since it took me some time to reply to a previous guest). 

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The guest in question left me overall: 2* - cleanliness: 2* – accuracy:3* – communication:3* –check in: 3* - location: 4* - value 3* 

Not a huge drop since I only drop to 4.9 on all items except location wich remain at 4.8. All in all, I'm still with a high rating, but because it's my first 2* and because I just can't have explained it, it's beyond frustration. 

The review she left only mentioned "ok place for the price" and she didn’t describe the reason of her low rating next to the *. 

It's also very frustrating because the persons who stayed the night before and after left amazing reviews with 5* on all items. So I really can't understand what went wrong. 

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Between each guest, I deep clean, the bedroom, bathroom, shower, kitchen and living room, provide soft fresh and clean towels/bedlinens and I double check if everything is alright. Although I'm not a cleaning maniac I have high hygiene standards and because I also travel on airbnb I make sure my listing is how I would like to find one. 2 weeks ago, I made my spring cleaning, (as my mom was visiting from switzerland = high pressure) My place was spotless, the walls were even cleaned. She left the bedroom clean, didn’t use the rest of the apartment but the sink in the bathroom was left dirty with black make up.( not the end of the world to me, I can clan that) 

For accuracy my listing describes all the details and there are recent pictures of everything. I used everyone feedback to make it the most accurate possible. 

Commuinication, I replied to all her messages within the hour when it wasn't live answering. I even sent her a message with the exact address and details on how to find us, the website of a parking where she can leave her car and screen shots on how to access it. 

I asked her several time her estimate arrival time. For security reasons I don’t install a code or Bluetooth key, but I welcome my guest from 2pm, as I work from home I can. But I just need to know a 1 hour frame estimate arrival time, so I can do other things than just waiting. At 2.30 pm on check in day she finally said she would arrive within the hour. She arrived 2 hours after...but who's counting. 

 

At the moment of her arrival, I felt a bad vide coming from her, she was polite yet unfriendly and couldn't send a worse energy. As I believe anyone could have had a bad day or being tired of travelling, I welcomed her the same way as I welcome anyone, offered her a drink which she declined, showed her bedroom and left her space without insisting on human contact. 

She asked me about the street regulation for her car, I politely informed her that only local resident are allowed and she might receive a fine...gave her again the name of the cheap public parking where she can safely park, (as mentioned in a previous message and in my listing description), the bitc** face she gave me so ridiculous... Then she came back asking for an iron, my listing description doesn’t mention this as available but I happened to have just bought one that doesn’t work. So I said mine was broken. Her face was sooo decomposed... for an iron I never pretended to have or offer... (I will seriously buy another one fast to avoid this kind of faces) 

 

Then she complained that it was raining outside and she was "forced" to buy an umbrella in order to avoid becoming sick... She could have asked me one because that’s something I had... She was super pissed and I had no idea what to say so I just told her that the next day forecasts were better. I have teas available but I wasn’t feeling like offering it to someone treating me like a dog. I just stayed polite and left. Also, the weather is not really something I control, it's not raining inside and before traveling (by car) she has the right to check the weather forecasts.  

So, she was just staying one night and my next guest arrived the next morning at 9.30 just to leave her luggage before check-in. The current guest was awake,  I was able to hear her listing to loud videos. My next guest asked to quickly use the bathroom, when the current one tried to go, (using the bathrobe I provided). When I said it was busy she gave me again that bit*** look. 

At this moment I was just so happy that she would leave within a few hours and I could have then a wonderful and friendly guest. 

Later I asked her if she slept well, she just nodded a yes and didn’t even care talking, she left later not touching the breakfast I prepared for her. Gave me a cold "thanks for your hospitality" and left. 

 

I knew the review wouldn't be a 5*, so I decided to wait a few days before posting mine and receiving another better review (which was wonderful and 5*) 

I didn’t left a review saying how high maintenance she was, I just mentioned she left the bedroom clean, (but to me when I don’t say I recommend guest , it's my nice way to mean that I don't) 

And then I discovered the 2 stars! Yayyy 

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Writing this I realize my story might sound silly comparing to some nightmares people have experienced, I'm still a 4.9 but writing it helps getting over the frustration and I would still love your feedback with what I should or could do. i/m writing a lot for something very little in the end. I just need to vent a little 🙂

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I wanted to message her to ask what went wrong, what was not up to her standard, and what not clean, what was not communicated properly and what was not accurate in order to make a better experience for my next guests. 

I believe she rated me badly because she couldn’t park in the street, couldn't use an iron, ... the rain and an arriving guest used the (shared) bathroom of the apartment. Probably she didn’t like me for some reasons...which has never happened yet but there's a first to everything, I also wondered if it's because my husband and I are a same sex couple, or maybe because he's originally from a muslim country. I noticed she was coming from a very catholic and poor country, so I thought maybe she's not comfortable with that... but again our profile describes it.. This said I can't say if this is the reason I wont make any presumption... I just can't find any valid reasons...but it's clear that she didn’t read the listing description, maybe she didn't understood it was a single bedroom inside my apartment and not a private one. (I only have 1 airbnb guest room in my apartment btw) 

I also wrote airbnb to tell them how surprised I was with that rating and asked them if they would get in touch with her to ask directly what went wrong. Maybe it's better if it comes from a neutral person than me. I haven't received a response yet from airbnb support. 

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I still don’t know if I should leave a response to her review, it’s a very short one, besides the stars not the worst and it should disappear among the next ones. 

 

I will include in my welcome message something like " if anything is not up to your standards, not working or if you need anything please let me know and I'll be happy to help" (any suggestions guys?should I also say it when I meet the guests?) 

 

I also wonder if airbnb should not make it mandatory to explain in details what went wrong when leaving a rating bellow 4 (or even 5?) guests and hosts both have the possibility to do that, but its only optional, I'm wondering if a bad rating (both for hosts and guests) should maybe be motivated with a detailed explanation to be completed. What do you think? 

 

And lastly, should I leave a bad review, just because I have a bad vibe with a guest, even if nothing really bad happens during the stay? In her case when I was writing my review I still wondered if she might have just had a bad day for external cause than my place. I left 1* for communication, but the rest was 4 to 5, but I still clicked no on the would you recommend this guest question. I just recommended her to communicate earlier her ETA on the private box. But now I wonder if I should not just drop everything I can think off on the public reviews if I have someone similar. 

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Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Alain311  I'm sorry you had such a demanding and ungrateful guest. I wouldn't bother asking her why the bad review, as she isn't worth it and won't give you any useful response- she seems to be a miserable person. But if it were me, I would leave a public response to her review- factual and professional, mentioning that your listing doesn't say you provide an iron, and you don't appreciate getting dirty looks because you didn't have one, that you don't have control over the weather and that the fact that she found it necessary to buy an umbrella is not something that you should be faulted for, etc.

I don't think we should leave bad reviews for guests just because we have a bad vibe with a guest, but it depends- it wasn't like your peronalities clashed, she was just unfriendly, demanding, and blaming. In a case like that, where a guest didn't actually break any rules and didn't leave a mess, but related poorly, I'd mark them down for communication and star accordingly on the other ratings, as well as mentioning in the written review that the guest was unfriendly and rude and made you feel uncomfortable in your own home. It's one thing for someone to be reserved and not overly friendly, and want to stick to themselves, but basic manners and friendliness when sharing someone's home is essential. Other hosts need to be warned.

Lisa723
Level 10
Quilcene, WA

@Alain311 just take a moment to be grateful you are not her, then forget about it.

Thanks Lisa 🙂 I had a wonderful Guest after and the glass of Rose that I just had was everything 🙂

Fred13
Level 10
Placencia, Belize

I can't find her review. Honestly, I take people like that, that are so totally unlikable to not merit me wasting my energy to 'try' to figure them out. I would ~respond~ to their review, and do so in a very short manner that would cause the reader to dismiss her as a creature devoid of any human emotion, best suited in a sterile inpersonal hotel resembling a padded cell.

yes its hard to see her review because you see first the reviews of people close to you (or in your country, i forgot how it works), then her review is just a few words and not that bad, beside the 2 stars (which are visible when looking with a phone).

 

this is why I wonder if I should leave a response or not , as the response might make the bad review more visible.

Drago1
Level 3
Zagreb, Croatia

 I am a superhost for already 4-5 years.  95% of the guests are perfect, but I do get some disgusting ones once in a while, and those are the only ones I give reviews to... for them I put an alarm 14 days from the review countdown and 2 minutes before expiry I write them what they deserve. some of this disgusting guests are hoping we the hosts will not write about them, but I encourage you that you do it! do not hesitate if you get a bad wibe from them when you meet.

@Drago1   I'm glad you review the bad guests to warn other hosts, but I don't understand why you don't review good guests- I always look at a guest's reviews before approving a booking- it's not fair to good guests not to review them. If all hosts didn't review good guests, a wonderful guest who had stayed at 20 airbnbs would have no reviews and a host wouldn't understand why. 

I agree with Sarah, if they are good we should try to leave a review, you also need to leave 50% reviews in order to keep your superhost status and the more review you give, the more the algorithm will like you and give you a good position in the search engine.

 

I also sometimes wait 2 weeks in case I have the feeling it will be a bad review. Never had the bad review untill now and this time i coulnt wait 2 weeks, i was just too curious haha

Actually, @Alain311  that 50% review requirement for superhost status is the number of reviews guests have left for hosts, not how many reviews the host has left for guests, believe it or not. There are threads here on that. It's totally absurd, since we have no control over whether a guest bothers to leave us a review.

ohh I didnt know, I really thought it was only us

I understand a bit why at least 50%, if most of the people dont leave reviews our place is not well evaluated but that would be frustrating to loose a super host status becauise we are at 49%

 

then I'm glad almost all my guests leaves reviews 🙂

With some exceptions, but yes it does stand to reason. I am at 100% 5-star reviews (last non-5 in 2015), yet at just 50% 'Trips Reviewed'. 

Gordon0
Level 10
London, United Kingdom

@Sarah977 - I agree with you 100%. If a host is too lazy to leave reviews, what else are they lazy at?

Great idea!

 

I would also add this

hosts generally add "more suited to a hotel" to reviews of guests that they feel are not suited to Airbnb..that is like a hint to other hosts reading the review 

 

 

 
Paul154
Level 10
Seattle, WA

" I have teas available but I wasn’t feeling like offering it"

I love it!

How many times I have felt this. Thanks for your honesty.

Usually, I have the opposite problem. I  offer morning coffee.

I am often am turned down, so then "I don't feel like offering it"

There's always those subtle human interaction things going on. Sometimes my pysche gets bruised a little.  Sometimes, we get a guest like yours - one who is screaming "I'm having a bad life. Get away, don't bother me".  Nothing to do but say "Sorry" and get out of the way.

As she paid you money and the room was left clean, the best you can do is leave a thumbs down.

Think of the next great guest coming.