Bad review from a long-term guest, followed by refund, and there is nothing a host can do?

Helena74
Level 10
Odemira, Portugal

Bad review from a long-term guest, followed by refund, and there is nothing a host can do?

Hi everybody,

 

I have been hosting for 4 years now. When I started, my apartment was advised in 3 sites, but over time I gave up of 2 of them and stayed with Airbnb. Meanwhile the growth of Airbnb was enormous and the quality of the guests is decreasing, at least this is my feeling. Nevertheless I've been recommending Airbnb to everybody, until the following happened to me:

 

I had a family of guests – a young couple with their one year son – who stayed in my apartment for 40 days. I was first contacted by her but did not accept immediately, so they used a different profile and used the instant booking. I accept instant booking only from recommended guests, that was their case, and they are also hosts. So I thought it would be OK. I personally welcome them (despite their more than one day late arrival) and did the usual tour of the house. I was available during all their stay, they did not complaint about anything. On their last day the key was delivered to my daughter with a smile but without allowing her entrance (you will next understand why). All of it can be easily checked on our correspondence by Airbnb system.

 

But when I entered the apartment after their departure, I found used baby's diapers in my kitchen and food sticked on the walls. The bath tub looked like it was last time cleaned in the time of Discoveries, there was an area full of objects usually placed elsewhere (piles of chairs, cleaning products, heaters, toys). My water vacuum cleaner misused (without water), all the beds were used, all the closets for bed linen and towels were in a mess.

 

They wrote their review immediately, but I was completely pissed of and delayed mine until last moment. I had more to think about, like preparing the place for the next guest – a mother and her 14 years daughter -, who stayed for 6 days. It was an extra effort, but of course the place was spotless as always when they arrived. This guest wrote a 5 stars review and I did the same for her.

I wrote my reviews for both guests on the same day. I was naive enough to give to the couple a positive review, low rate, but still positive, considering that they had water my plants and they were hosts as well. Then I was taken by surprise and knew about their's review: Overall 1, Cleanliness 1, Accuracy 4, Value 3, Communication 5, Arrival 5, Location 4. On their public comment they seriously accuse me of unthinkable things, like danger of fire, clutter, lack of cleanliness, and there is more writing in their private comments to Airbnb.

 

So now I had a very negative review as first comment appearing to future guests. And the good review from the second guest was not appearing in my public page, only in my private dashboard. Then I called Airbnb centre in Lisbon, I was puzzled and wanted to know what could happen next. I was told that there was nothing to worry about, my average overall rate is still 4,5, even after a 1 star review; and the other issue maybe was something with my browser.

Soon after I had a third guest who also rated me 5 stars, his comment is public - but the second one is still disappeared.

 

Unfortunately there was more to come. Recently I received an e-mail from a case manager at Airbnb. It seems that, after looking over some documentation submitted by my guests, they are entitled to a partial refund of $1,854 or €1,571 (approximately the amount I got for one entire month), and this amount will be deducted from my future reservations. All based on my violation of Host standards policy!

 

From this point on, all I got from Airbnb was automated replies to my questions. According to the contract that we both – host and guest - have signed with Airbnb, unless I was mistaken for the past 4 years, if something was not according to guests expectations, they should have told me. I would in first place correct the situation, or if that correction was still not acceptable for them, they could cancel the reservation and stay somewhere else. Or we could adjust a lower price for the stay. To Airbnb it does not matter. It does not matter either the fact that they exposed their baby to danger (according to them) for 40 days. Or that there is another review from the next guest, written BEFORE their's review was public, and that this second review is hidden as part of my punishment. It does not matter either that I want to know what I am accused of, what kind of evidence was produced and when was it produced, in order to prevent future issues with other guests. Nothing matters. There is a decision, and it will stick. There is nothing I can do, except maybe cancel my 2 coming reservations (which will barely cover half of that amount), leave Airbnb for ever and start from the beginning somewhere else.

 

This can happen. Just forget about my case and suppose there is a long time host who helped the growth of the Airbnb community. This host has a license from local authorities, pays his duties and taxes, and he is average overall very well rated. Out of nowhere comes a guest that produces fake evidence and ruins it all? And Airbnb supports this guest and does not ear a word from the host? I do not think it is fair. I think that Airbnb is about guest and host, about sharing experiences, not only about money, not only about getting satisfied guests no matter what.

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Huma0
Level 10
London, United Kingdom

@Mary-Ann0

 

My experiences with long term guests have also been fantastic and I wish I could host more, but my calendar tends to get booked up a lot with short-term ones so the long-term ones don't get much of a look in.

 

I have currently put one of my rooms on primarily for long term guests and, from October, am hoping a second one will also get long-term bookings, but let's see how it goes.

 

I am sure one day I could get the nightmare long-term guest but I feel adequately prepared to deal with that situation (I hope). Plus, I'm pretty picky about who I take as a long-term guest.

 

All my long term guests so far have been great people and I would have been happy for them to stay longer. The current one not only fed my cats this weekend, but offered to check in other guests for me because they changed their arrival time at the last minute and I had to be at a close friend's wedding. Apparently she did a brilliant job. I should probably hire her!

We have never had long term guests, we kind of prtefer short term, a few months ago, we were going on a two week cruise, I had the calender blocked for those days, I got a call from a past guests that had stayed with us 2 times before, he and his partner come from florida to do work here in vegas, he calls me up and asks me if I knew anyone with two bedrooms for two wks. I thought it over and told him we were going on a 2 wk. cruise and that they could go ahead and book the 2 wks. that we were going to be gone. It all worked great for us they stayed and watched the house for us and we made some good $$$ in the process.

Jack, that sounds lovely. I would have done the same thing with a repeat customer. I have one repeat guest and had it not been for my dog needing a sitter I would have allowed him to stay without me present when I went to Europe for 3 weeks. As it turned out a friend from Texas came and house/SusieQ sat for 3 weeks while I was gone. My repeat guest returned to me as soon as my room was available upon y return. Thanks for sharing that information.

Hello I too had something like this happen and I too have tried repeatedly to dispute the guys review. While all my other reviews besides one ever had less than 5 stars and or anything bad to say and the only thing anyone else had to say was how hot it was one week when it was in the 90s and that it was not the best area around but was still very quiet and either way with several reviews before and after all 5 stars and several stating the place is immaculately clean, airbnb like you said does not care the guy was perfectly happy beforehand and also made up many lies while here for what I also believed was for a refund. And like you there is nothing i can do except stop listing on airbnb i only have 15 reviews this one guy gave me the one star and butchered my score on top of his lies. 

Jeannette45
Level 2
Wales, United Kingdom

I also worry about your view that the guests appear to be supported and one bad review does so much damage.  I recently had a bad review from a night worker and this knocked my reviews right down to 4.7 after a lot of time and trouble to ensure people were comfortable.  A night worker was disturbed by one of my roofers being repaired on A different building than the one he was renting.  He also complained about cobwebs in the country across from fields that is totally beyond my control.  We are rural and it clearly is shown that in the country we manage this on a daily basis.  He said he left early but he did not he booked an extra day so he could leave his belongings in the house and leave later.  I refunded a days money as a good will gesture and he gave me a 2 out of 5.  

 

I did not make it to supehost and 2 people stayed in my cottage for 5 days for a small amount I lost all round and he lost nothing except sleep that any night worker risks

 

I feel that I give good service and try to support bookings putting right all issues immediately.  This man did not tell me until his stay was almost over so I could not respond. 

 

This seems so unfair.

Hello uf anyone wants to join I made a facebook page and link to this forum on the page we need more social media on this topic if we expect a change in the future in policies or the way airbnb handles these cases thanks in advance! Please feel free to add the group and whatever you might like to add to it or post your own story to warn others.

 

https://m.facebook.com/groups/467276603791384?ref=bookmarks

Kimberly570
Level 1
Plantation, FL

What was the violation the guest claimed?