Details guests see as "not clean enough" - -add your thoughts!

Laura2592
Level 10
Frederick, MD

Details guests see as "not clean enough" - -add your thoughts!

I had posted that I learned a lot about cleaning having an Airbnb. I hate cleaning and have a cleaning service in my primary residence. It was clear after a few rounds with them at our Airbnb we needed to be working on some of the cleaning ourselves in addition to having a cleaner come in. We collect a lot of feedback from our guests via a suggestion box. One of the biggest challenges is meeting what I call the "personal cleanliness expectation" or PCE.  PCE consists of general big ticket items like clean floors and counters, non-sticky tables,  no dust bunnies, scrubbed toilets, etc. But each guest has there own individual "PCE" items-- if they see one, doesn't matter for some how nice the big ticket things are. You lose a point or more as they signal "not clean enough" to the guest. 

 

Now some of these PCEs are over the top, so bear with me. But this is what I have discovered. I am sure a lot of other hosts will chime in (at least I hope so.)

 

First, bugs. Our cottage is on a big rural wooded lot. So bugs get inside. Spiders when its cold, flies and mosquitoes (and fireflies!) sometimes when its warm. Crickets any time. We have a big porch and a little vestibule between the screen and main front door. Crickets especially will wait and hop in when the lights are on. Some guests will say that the place isn't clean if they see a bug, alive or dead. This is something we work very hard to manage, but nature is gonna be nature out in the country under the trees. 

 

Anything that is supposed to look distressed. We have a very rustic reclaimed floor in one of our bathroom made of old barn wood. Personally I love it. Its got old paint and goes well with the vibe of the house. It gets mopped and cleaned with all other floor surfaces. But one guest said it looked "old and dirty." Likewise the bedside tables in one bedroom are chalk painted and shabby chic. One guest left a comment that they weren't "crisp and new" looking (they aren't, nor are they supposed to be). If you look at all the fancy "luxe" places on Airbnb they have a very specific type of look-- white, open, clean edges, new-appearing. So be careful if your place invites a different aesthetic.

 

Baseboards and picture frames. Yes its common sense to dust them. But one guest told us that she does the "white glove test" on those areas before giving out 5 stars.  (Good to know.)

 

Dark furniture. Some guests see dark, heavy furniture as "dirty" even when its not. Grays, beiges and bright colors seem not to evoke this reaction. Same with dark counters. Why? No clue. 

 

Areas behind shelves/washer dryer/pieces of furniture. I know-- who goes behind that stuff? Guests do, especially if they have small kids or pets with toys. We were appalled to discover that the area behind the washer and dryer in our laundry room was super gross. It took some effort to move the machines and clean but now we have a long swiffer type duster thing that helps.

 

Your personal stuff. We had a drawer in a piece of furniture in the bathroom where we left a tube of our almost brand new toothpaste by accident. Guests found it and were unhappy... it seemed like we should have cleaned better. 

 

Stoves and fridges. Yes, they should be clean. They should be very very clean all the time. If your place is spotless otherwise, but certain guests open a stove or fridge and sees any evidence of muck,  your place is not clean enough to meet their PCE.  Same goes with a microwave.

 

Smells. We have a solid stone built cottage with 18" thick walls (about 45 cm). We can't vent to outside for a fan without paying an exorbitant amount. We can't fit a recirculating fan under the hand built hickory cabinets because they aren't a standard size. So we don't have a toaster or allow deep frying. Why? The smells. We found out the hard way that some cooking smells (really burnt toast is the worst!) really linger in a place with 18 inch thick stone walls and only ceiling fans to help move odors along. If your place does not smell fresh right upon opening the door, its not meeting someone's PCE. This is particularly true in a place that allows pets as not all of your guests have them and no one wants to smell someone else's wet dog. 

 

Please feel free to add what you have found!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

82 Replies 82

@Monica1289 it can be. But not every guest is looking for quirky and unique. Airbnb as a concept is still new to many. Some guests think you are actually running a traditional bed and breakfast because of the "b&b" title. Some guests prefer to add to their online critique portfolio for a blog. Some can't find a hotel and book this as a last resort. Likewise there's a lot if different approaches to hosting. Expectations don't always align for guest and host.

One of our guests from Airbnb has now become our regular house sitter so that was a win win

@Gillian120  Yes, I've had a few guests who I would use as housesitters in a heartbeat. One I even had a tentative arrangement with, but some personal stuff came up for her so she couldn't come.

I am new. Entirely new to this.  But I had thought Airbnb was for those that wanted a more "real" and personal 'local' experience, and one where you had more "character" and local flavor rather than a pristine experience.... that you'd perhaps be sharing a place that WAS a lived in home and just vacant at the time of your stay. 

Now it looks like everyone wants the pristine 5 star hotel experience in someone's home.  Perhaps as companies moved in or those who have 4-5  places (its become their business rather than a supplement) the standards and expectations have changed?


@Monica1289 wrote:


Now it looks like everyone wants the pristine 5 star hotel experience in someone's home. 


This is too big a brush especially for onsite, home-based hosts. Though I read these posts, as you have, I have not personally experienced the nastiness that has been reported. I certainly keep my house cleaner than I might if I weren't renting a suite of rooms to guests. I very much clean the dickens out of the guest rooms for each and every guest. I just haven't had any complaints or 4-star reviews.

 

But, yes. Cleanliness you can control and people want a clean place to mess up!

Kath9
Level 10
Albany, Australia

@Laura2592 @Kevin1322 @Branka-and-Silvia0 @Ute42 it honestly beats me why anyone would bother doing the 'white glove test' or check behind furniture etc. when on holidays. You just have to feel sorry for them really. I feel that the cleanliness expectations have increased exponentially - when I started hosting 3 years ago, people KNEW they were staying in someone's normal home with normal homey dirt, but NOW, oh no, it must be professionally cleaned to hotel standards, even if they ARE paying less than the backpackers.

 

God, I feel like all I do is clean and it takes nearly all my time just doing the basics (floors, surfaces, bathroom, etc.), let alone windows, extractor fans and big ticket items. Sometimes I'll notice something myself and think, omg, that's gross. Things I find that easily slip through the cracks are dust/cobwebs behind furniture, picture railings and skirting boards, extractor fans, tops of ceiling fans, the microwave (which only my guests use so I forget to clean it) and the fridge. Bugs can be an issue - we have lots here, including spiders (mostly harmless, but which many guests are terrified of). Daddy longlegs are almost part of the furniture here so I usually ignore them, but I've literally had a guest cowering in fear in the corner when she saw one in her room and insist I kill it with bug spray (which I don't use). Sigh...I just keep my fingers crossed that every new guest is going to have better things to do with their time than white glove the skirting boards.

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Laura2592  Honestly, you're never going to be able to please the fusspots who would run a finger over the baseboards or the top of a door. You do have to feel a little sorry for them that they don't have better things to do with their lives.

That said, I always do the baseboards and find it quite easy- I just throw a cleaning cloth or sponge in the pail of floor washing water and swipe the basebaords when I'm washing that area. And I always clean behind all the furniture- as I live in the tropics, it's like a scorpion and ant hotel back there (might even be  snake!)  if things aren't regularly moved and cleaned behind and under. I have felt pads under the furniture, so they can be easily slid out.

Try to advertise the character, patina and history of your home, as well as your shabby chic style, so it will tend to attract guests who appreciate that sort of place, rather than those who think everything should look like it came out of the Ikea catalogue.

@Sarah977 you have a 1 bedroom with 1 bed ... It's not as simple as you think to maintain a multi family, multi room home. You make it seem so simple.

@Kevin1056  That is the guest space I rent out, yes. In my home. Which has more than 1 bedroom, also kitchen and living room and two bathrooms, and outdoor terraces and balcony, which I clean all of myself. And a huge garden, which I also maintain myself.

Not to mention I raised 3 kids (who always had friends over) in a 4 bedroom house for 20 years. I can assure you it was clean. I'm not exactly inexperienced in cleaning large spaces after multitudes of people.

Some people are good and efficient at cleaning and manage not to miss stuff. Others aren't that good at it. Being detail oriented helps- not everyone is.

Wow!!!!!  🙂

Ute42
Level 10
Germany

.

@Sarah977, @Kath9 

 

I am renting almost nothing through airbnb bc I don't like their procedures, I get my business through other distribution channels where I can have the phonenumber of guests before they book. And I'm having a phonecall with all my guests when they book. In that phonecall I'm telling them right into their face: „If You want perfection, don't book my place. Book somewhere else“. That's the exact wording that I use.

 

I execute this policy for 2 years now, and in these 2 years only one group of guests (I host for 10) has restrained from booking after that phonecall. With all the guests who did book, I did not have one single cleanlyness issue ever since. It's over, it's gone.

 

I know we can't have pre-booking phonecalls with airbnb guests, so I suggest You put up this sign amongst You listing pictures:

 

 

2019-09-13 Dont book with me.jpg

 

 

 

@Ute42 I Love it!!!!

Kath9
Level 10
Albany, Australia

@Ute42, love it! @Laura2592 @Kevin1056 I also have this written in my listing description under 'Other things to note':

 

Please don't expect a 5-star hotel - this is budget accommodation at a private home with shared bathroom and kitchen. At times, I may have friends dropping in or staying. My house is clean but not sterile - the price you are paying does not cover professional cleaners. If you are looking for a professionally-cleaned, self-contained, hotel-style environment, options are available in Albany. I have priced my accommodation accordingly and believe I offer excellent value for money.

.

@Kath9 

 

Very good wording, I may steal some of Your language if You agree.

 

And if You not agree, what can You do? It'l be in german anyway. 🙂

 

Cj61
Level 10
Darwin, Australia

Always when I use this site, I type a detailed answer and then it disappears. Oh, that's right, Air bnb manage this site don't they!