How many rooms should this listing have? And ...

Kenneth12
Level 10
Chicago, IL

How many rooms should this listing have? And ...

Me again,  alas.

How many TOTAL rooms (don't count bathrooms and closets) should a listing with the following,  have?   How many beds,   couches,  or sofa-like objects?

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Charles224
Level 10
Clare, Australia

@Kenneth12 ; looks like "2" bedrooms.

Is this a trick question? 

Sleep well.

Hi @Charles224 :  not meant as a trick question,  just not to prejudice the issue.

How many TOTAL rooms do you expect in such a listing (minimum),   not counting bathrooms or closets?

(P.S.   In the same incident,  I'm going to file "water was out to the island" under "things host probably could not have anticipated and beyond their control.")

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@Charles224 

 

In addition to 2 bedrooms there is a "common space" mentioned. I wouldn't expect one of the 2 bedrooms to be a common space. There must be a 3rd room.

 

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

Indeed! - I guess the crux is that no room should be counted twice; a room which is  not a bathroom, kitchen or closet should be listed ONCE as a bedroom OR common space, (even if it serves both functions.) 

Ute42
Level 10
Germany

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@Kenneth12 

 

3 rooms, 3 pieces of furniture to sleep on?

 

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

You been mixing with the European peasants again @Kenneth12 ???!!! The European peasants who are not as rich, nor as well appointed as Americans? Or the European peasants whose requirements/expectations & ideas as to what constitutes basic necessities are more modest than those chez vous???

 

Looking at your recent posts on your European Grand Tour, (& your reviews) I rather wonder if you are looking to find fault & nit-pick at every turn....?

 

Does this question relate to yesterday's question about the pass-through bedroom; a bedroom with access through another bedroom = 1 bedroom or 2?

 

I agree that Airbnb hosts should strive to describe their listings accurately, but is it possible that different countries view what constitutes a room differently?

- An Airbnb is what it is... They are not all standard, cookie-cutter.... (But accurate description should alleviate disappointment, if guests READ before they book!)

 

The '10 Commandments of Travel' have just entered my mind.... https://www.brownelltravel.com/blog/travelers-ten-commandments/

Mike-And-Jane0
Top Contributor
England, United Kingdom

@Helen350 Looking at his reviews some of the Europeans don't seem to like Kenneth either.

@Helen350 

No,  it is not the pass-through situation.    (ATM,  I figure that host had enough problems with the flooding ...  and that the local economy is weak enough,  that I'm probably just going to point out her pass-through problem without asking for anything in return.)

It is possible that different countries have different standards.    That is why I posted the graph with neutral language,   not indicating anything else,   to gather replies.  Perhaps someone does not agree with the above "a room should not be counted twice".   I dunno,  that's why I am asking.   If someone has a differing way of looking at things,   I'd like to be aware and take it into account.

It's also possible that particular cultures,   such as that around Naples,   are more inclined to fraud and scams,   which are intentionally violation of ABB's ToS.   There are possibly reasons for that,   such as long domination of the local economy and businesses by the mafia.


Other hosts may simply prefer to misrepresent their listing,   to gain a competitive advantage against those who do not.

Not every host is peaches and cream and the green fields of England.  That does not mean that I am not highly sympathetic to my host with flooding that appears to have been entirely not her fault,  and rather due to the negligence of a neighbor.   

The bungling host in Milan was asked to fix a toilet,   the WiFi (the third time there was an outage),   and to perhaps provide a fan in 34C weather.    (We bought two ourselves and left them for other guests).    The review I left for them "some problems need to be addressed" was quite more generous,   as I hope you are more generous to your guests.

Finally,   we do have Community Standards around here  about what is posted in this forum its tone... supposedly.   I suggest you review them.

Otherwise,  isn't presuming someone's nationality somewhat like presuming someone's gender?   So 1990s.

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

Oh dear, Have I violated community standards @Kenneth12 ?

Have I presumed someone's nationality?

 

I'd hoped my whimsical thoughts to you above, were a little light-hearted musings on the benefits  of going with the flow where you are in Italy, and not getting to bothered if things aren't perfect... which might be my advice-to-self in a similar situation....?

 

I hope I didn't offend you, & forgive me if I have...... (or were you referring to M&J?) 🙂

 

Happy travels!

Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

@Kenneth12  - I completely agree with you about tone! (Tho' sometimes tone can be in the eye of the beholder, because  the reader can't always tell if something is written  with a twinkle in the eye or as an act of stirring & provocation! - Or any number of nuanced subtexts..... )  🙂 

Mike-And-Jane0
Top Contributor
England, United Kingdom

@Helen350 I stated a fact - surely this isn't against the rules!😀

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Kenneth12  2 bedrooms. 3 sleeping "objects".

Now what constitutes "common spaces" could be up for interpretation. Many of us would assume that to be a living room. But I suppose a host could put a sofa bed or fold-out couch in a hallway or foyer and call that a "common space".

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