I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a st...
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I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a strict 4pm checkin time & they showed up at 2:15 saying they chose ...
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I enjoy using Airbnb platform.But the chang the terns of infants booking no charge it's absurd.
My apartment is not hotel.
A guest that com with an infant - I not asking for ID , it's almost imposible to check the age of the infant, and sorry -
23 month old boys are not infants, and should be charged as regular guests.
In my communication with the parents befor they came to our place - all they care about is the conditions for the baby.
That is staying for free.
Extra heating/ cooling - for the infant - for free
Extra sheets & blankets -for the infant- for free
Extra towels - for the infant- for free
A big hotel can soak up those charges and to pot it on other things he charge
we can not.
sorry
Not posible in our little place.
Airbnb - Pay attention - That hurtful us the hosts - and we are the grounds that company grow on , so in the end it will effect the company it self.
Most hosts agree with you. There are many threads about it, the last one was: https://community.airbnb.com/t5/Hosts/Children-under-2-Free-NO/m-p/248221/highlight/true#M59445
If this issue is as important to you as it seems to be, why not set one price per night, per reservation. That way you get paid the same if there is one adult, one adult and one infant, four adults etc.
My room is either booked or it is not I could not care less if there is one person or four, I have much better things to do in life than to count people.
Dear Scott
Apparently your reaction is corect as were your living at - Honolulu, HI
In my state is imposible to let the poblic of guest to do what ever they want.
It dippents on the culture of the country.
All I can say to you - good for you.
Not all travels community are like yours.
That's way there are setting rules, house rules and more.
Scott, I have a policy of 6 people maximum. Yet, some people have come with 6 people and one infant - that equals 7. Since infants are free, people think it is ok to go over the maximum number of people. This has happened to me twice even though my rules clearly state no infants/children. I have just changed my rules; if guests bring an infant or child without my knowledge or consent, I will ask the guests to leave without a refund. Not sure Airbnb will back me up on this one.
I see this happened last year - I hope you were able to mitigate the situation with your guests and/or Airbnb. I think you have good grounds for asking guests to leave since you clearly state you do not accept children and infants. And Airbnb will probably back you up on that, but it is due to Airbnb's poorly thought-out policy of allowing under age two to be "free" that has lead to the problem you've encountered with people bringing additional guests under age two.
The dilemma you faced (extra people) is a good reason to have conversations with your guests before they are permitted to book. It can be informal and casual - just asking how many are in their party and what extras they might need to be comfortable. In fact you should ask for the ages of guests - and specifically ask if there are any infants. Do it diplomatically but firmly. (And by the way, I have not been hosting this year as I have been exceptionally busy elsewhere. Due to not hosting I have lost my superhost status.)
AIRBNB should do away with the pre-set pricing for under age two. it is not beneficial to anyone. They could leave the categories but not put different pricing for the categories. Charge the same for all guests, regardless of age - and let the Host make those distinctions. Period.
In response to Scott in Hawaii - If indeed we, the Hosts, are independent agents - separate and apart from empllyees of AIRBNB - then I can only view this pre-set categorizing and pricing by AIRBNB as an intrusion; an unnecessary one. Maybe they need to remove that feature of infants being zero charge and instead simply send out their SUGGESTIONS to Hosts - much like other suggestions (some of which are good probably based on statistical data they so kindly collect). Airbnb needs to stop the intrusion. of pre-pricing under age two infants.
FREE for under age two - infants - is not a good idea. This is an issue I’ve broached with Airbnb several times before. It appears that Airbnb is more interested in dictating terms for the host than in letting the host act as an independent agent (which we are - we are not employed by Airbnb - do not even receive a 1099... and we assume a lot of responsibility and liability - despite Airbnb’s impression that you offer services including the property damage insurance, etc.,) we, as hosts, assume all the responsibility - and therefore should be given more latitude in several areas including pricing.
My specific complaint is in regard to how Airbnb lists “under age 2” as free. Yes, I know I can as a host charge; and I do. And yes, I know that as a host I should refer to that in my description; and I do (twice). But you can’t deny that it is a negative, not a positive, when a host must inform and educate their prospective, inquiring guest, who is on the verge of reserving, that, “Oh, by the way, I’ll be charging for your under age two child, as well.” This is not something a prospective guest wants to be met with right at the time they’ve already spent an inordiant amount of time (per guests comments to me) - just doing all the paper work with Airbnb and making the request to reserve - and then be met with additional things to do - that cost them more - no - this is not a good policy. The guest has already been pre-disposed to think all and any "infants" are free... Why would Airbnb do this to us, the hosts?
lf AIRBNB would simply standardize the pricing to include EVERYONE - then I’d have that pleasure of informing my guest of the extra perks, “Oh, I see you have an infant with you. May I offer to you the use of a pack ‘n’ play or baby bed for no additional charge?” Now isn’t that more pleasant than the alternative situation that you’ve set up wherein I must instead inform them of extra charges? Wouldn’t our customers be singing our praises if this were the situation instead of the one you currently have set up - wherein it is scripted who is an adult, a child and an “infant” and the pricing for said individuals?
The fact is under age two children cost me just as much as any other age. (and yes I know I can refuse to rent to children...but that is not what I prefer as the home is a family home conducive to family settings...). Infants or under age two year olds do take up space even if the adult brings along his or her own pack ‘n’ play - the furniture gets moved around - (more likely for floors to be scratched). Diapers are produced and often leave a smell in the home; and/or spit up on floors and/or furniture, sticky hands and drippy bottles leaving residue in unusual places like furniture and windows, walls, etc. - - which can be remedied with a good cleaning - which of course I do. And yes I know I could attach extra cleaning charges via the security deposit - but really - this is a negative, also - and I do not want to work via negatives; I want to work via positives. But for you or anyone to conclude that they do not cost me the host anything and therefore should be free is ludicrous.
I want all my guests to be satisfied. Satisfaction is mostly based on expectations. In order to have expectations met one must define the terms - which I’d like Airbnb assistance on instead of interference with. If one goes into a relationship - transaction - with one set of expectations only to be informed - “nope there are some adjustments to that - which, oh by the way, will cost you more” - that is not leading to customer satisfaction. In addition, according to AIRBNB's own terms 7.12 - the host cannot change the price after a reserversation has been requested. but many times i have received suggestions from Airbnb reps to do just that - read your own terms of service regarding pricing issue as well as tax issue wherein your terms suggest doing this through then "Special Offer" feature - which by the way is NOT available after a request has been made - only availalble after it expires and/or when ain "Inquiry" was made - you're not provided access for the very thing you suggest/recommend as a solution, leading the host to act upon the last resort of "declining" the guest and asking them to re-submit indicating total number of guests including the infant... again not a good way to start and maintain a positive relationship.
RE the cutomser service and pricing - Why not just up front your intentions and form better expectations. How does it benefit Airbnb to list under age two as free? I mean really - are you so desperate to compete with motels and hotels you must adopt their policies as well - when it appears to me your best bet is to separate yourself from that image of motel/hotel. Step out on your own - I thought that was what Airbnb was all about - a novel idea carried to extremes. That is one of the things that attracted me to Airbnb. What a novel idea - rent out an air mattress (or anything else) to adventuresome souls. Not surprised it got its start in a progressive city like San Francisco - but I am surprised, and disappointed, how you are succumbing to commercial pressures to conform.
AIRBNB is the one who makes it very clear that we are not their employees - indeed, we, as Hosts, are totally responsible for everything. that they are just a platform for the transaction for which they have the pleasure of a percentage. IF it is true that we are independent contractors, then let us contract with our guests including over the price of those under two or of any age. Pre-set categorizing and pricing from AIRBNB is an interference to our ability to run our business and it should stop; it is NOT a help - and i don't recall being asked if i wanted it. I petition that we stop it now and trust the Hosts to do their jobs!
I too agree that Infants are people/guests, and must be counted. Airbnb should not be allowed to set this policy for Hosts. Infants do indeed take up as many, if not more resources than any other guest.
Good luck on trying to get that change made. Airbnb seems to have their minds made up on the infant (under age 2) issue. I think those making the rules should try being Airbnb hosts before making decisions. They'd find out how sensible it is to charge for infants. Not all Airbnb hosts will permit children or infants. Those of us who are willing to host children and under age two should be rewarded for our efforts, instead of penalized with the unsavory position of having to inform our prospective guest of additional charges. In fact, if a host does not wish to charge for under age two, that would be perceived as a bonus for his/her guests when he/she informs them of that. That guest would be singing the praises of Airbnb. It is simply a bad policy.
How do I sign the petition for Airbnb to quit charging zero dollars for under age two guests? It is absurb for them to make a policy like that. Hosts - Look at your listing - click on the arrow by the word "Guests" - the drop down reads: " Infants don’t count toward the number of guests." Is it no wonder hosts are having trouble with guests bringing infants without informing their host - even when the host clearly indicates in their listing "no infants" or that they charge for infants. This is a bad policy, Airbnb. Most hosts do not like this policy. You should change it.