Traverse City, MI

Scott-and-Rene0
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Traverse City, MI

Welcome to Traverse City, MI

 

Hopefully this is where we can share a discussion of local interest from around our region.

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Beth140
Level 2
Ann Arbor, MI

Buying a condo that is being built in downtown Traverse City on Gillis that will be available on Airbnb as a short term rental. We live and work  in Ann Arbor.  Looking for info on reliable and trustworthy cleaners and possibly an experienced cohost in this area. Look forward to your help. 

Jim54
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

It seems something wrong with this thread.

Kelsey120
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

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Curt0
Level 5
Traverse City, MI

On line.   You look up the zoning map to see if you are in commercial.  Or call the zoning administrator and ask him/her.   If you are in residential it will be really tough as I believe all permits have been granted as the city limited the number.

Kelsey120
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Hello! 

 

I am new to hosting Airbnb and looking to get any insight on renting in TC. My place is within walking distance to Little Fleet but I'm not sure if you are allowed to Airbnb that close to downtown?

 

Any info helps!

Curt0
Level 5
Traverse City, MI

You need a permit from the city unless in commercial zoning district.   VOTE for Dave Durban for City Commission in Nov and get all your friends to vote for him.  He wants a more liberal policy.   Curt Peterson.   

Marvin-and-Lindsay0
Level 2
Michigan, United States

Hi Locals!

Has anyone done a rental for longer than 28 days? I’ve had someone contact me to rent for 3 months during the winter to go skiing. 

I feel like there are Michigan laws that give them tenant rights after 28 days. Any thoughts! 

Thanks! 

Lindsay 

Jim589
Level 1
Suttons Bay, MI

What is the best set up (bet sizes) for a two bedroom condo.I'm new to this discussion group. 

I have a 2 bedroom condo and I will soon rent it on AirBnb in th eTraverse City Area. 

 

Bedroom one has a King Bed. Should the second bedroom have a Queen or Two Twins?

 

 

 

Marvin-and-Lindsay0
Level 2
Michigan, United States

I’d suggest a queen but I think it’ll rent either way. If you can toss in a pull out sofa that’s nice too. 

MJandBob0
Level 2
Philadelphia, PA

We are looking for a housekeeper that can troubleshoot and be there for check-ins to greet our guests. Can you suggest a  reputable person in the Acme Mi area?

Jeffrey74
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

This is Jeff Shaw.  I am an Airbnb host in Elmwood Township in Leelanau County.  I wanted to let any hosts who have Airbnb's in Elmwood know that the Elmwood Township Board has been asked to consider prohibiting Airbnb rentals in Elmwood.  The meeting is Monday, January 14, 2019 at the Elmwood Township Hall.  Anyone interested in continuing to do Airbnb in Elmwood should attend and voice their opinion.

 

Thank you.

 

Jeff Shaw

Dan-and-Marlene0
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Greetings Jeff: While I do not live in Elmwood Twp but in East Bay Township, I'm still very interested in learning the outcome of this meeting on the 14th.  Would you kindly provide an update here and share the outcome?  While East Bay Township has enacted an ordinance in June of 2018, it is still not being enforced until March of 2019.  We are also working on getting the ordinance amended too.  Blessings and good luck.  Marlene Baldwin

Hello,  Started a short term renal in Garfield Township this year and just received a letter stating a violation of Zoning Ordinance, Section 201 and Article 3.  I saw an article in the Record Eagle regarding a law suit.  Looking for assistance and joining a group to support AirBnB in our community.  Any information and assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Curt0
Level 5
Traverse City, MI

Hi Debra,

Please describe the letter and who sent it.  Is this a cease and desist order?  So what is not allowed in a R1 zoning district is a vacation house rental of less than 30 days.      What is your situation?   Do you rent the whole house or just a portion?  Also can you advise me of the article you saw in the Record Eagle.    Regards,  Curt *****

resident of Grand Traverse County

 

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Terri105
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Curt,

 

I am not sure if it is a cease and desist order, but it threatens to remove my PRE. It states that per zoning ordinance, Section 201 and Article 3. Amy L. DeHaan Garfield Township Assessor renting for any term less than 30 consecutive days is not allowed in Garfield Township. I rent on weekends 39% of my home and I do not serve any type of food. I am living in the upper level home and I am here while the Airbnb guest are present. In review of the Michigan Principal Residence Exemption Program I am still eligeble for the PRE.  Am I in voilation based on this information of a Garfield Township Ordinance based on your expertise? Are there any groups or forums in Garfield Township or TC that I can join. The article in the Record Eagle noted a law suit by Bill Murphy and his Attorney Joe Quandt, I do not know the exact date Sept 2017, or out come of that legal action. Please contact me *****

 

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Dan-and-Marlene0
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Greetings to the group:

Curt, thank you for your reply to my earlier email about short term rentals in East Bay Twp.  We are now proactively involved with the township to represent a positive experience of the issue to them and making some small changes to the ordinance that just was put into effect in June.  Wanted to ask the group if there is a host club in place for Traverse City area?  I would like to see or offer an opportunity for current Airbnb hosts to meet and share experiences, information, ideas, support and etc.  I also liked the page on Facebook, but it seems more linked to getting the current ordinance issue to TC resolved. I am asking to have a host club in place to be more helpful/supportive to current hosts who use the site.  I thank you all in advance for the response.  I'm also willing to set this up and coordinate on the site if there's interest.  Blessings, Marlene Baldwin

Jeffrey74
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Hi Dan and Marlene.  Elmwood Township has been asked to consider prohibiting Airbnb rentals in Elmwood.  I am the Supervisor in Elmwood, and I have been an Airbnb host for the past 5 years, so I will have to recuse myself from any Board discussion on the agenda item.  I love being an Airbnb host and would hate to see our opportunity here in Elmwood disappear.  I know East Bay recently went through an ordinance, any advice on how best to proceed?   Thanks.  Jeff Shaw

Dan-and-Marlene0
Level 2
Traverse City, MI

Jeff:  Just saw this post on the thread.  My involvement with East Bay in getting the township to modify their ordinance has not been successful.  I had the support of the supervisor and the planner, but when we went to the board asking them to consider modifying the ordinance to acknowledge the different type of rentals, (ie Owner occupied, Host unoccupied, Investor type and etc) and also modify the frequency limitation in the ordinance (States only one rental in a 7 day period).  We had other Airbnb hosts at the November meeting and made the presentation and you can see this on the video recording of the meeting.  The outcome was that the board didn't want to revisit the ordinance, stated they spent two years on it and wanted to see how it would go before they go back and make any changes.  That was really frustrating seeing how I went to supervisor and asked if the rest of the board was tired of this issue or if they would be open to listening and making more changes.  So I did a ton of work to prove why modifying the frequency was needed and also why their needed to be designations to types of rentals as you can't have an ordinance fit all situations.  I got no where.  The frequency piece alone is almost impossible to manage on Airbnb.  We are a host onsite rental. We have a guest suite in our home with private entrance.  Our average stay is 2-3 nights.  Folks don't likely spend a 7 day stay with us because we don't provide a full kitchen in their suite.  They can use our kitchen, but the accomodation is not totally a furnished home (full kitchen).  Only 4% of listings on Airbnb list as a 7 day rental.  Most list in the 2-3 night range and that is an accurate representation of guests using the site.  So I pleaded that if we could only host 1 time in 7 days that the minute someone would book a stay, we would have to go into the calendar and block out the rest of the days of the week so that we weren't hosting twice in 7 days.  But in doing so, you make it that you can't host again until the first day is free again.  So if a guest books Friday-Monday, then you cannot host again until the following Friday.  So you block out Tue, Wed, Thurs.  So you now have lost the possibility of hosting a Thursday/Sunday and you are now only able to host another Friday/Monday.  It becomes too restrictive and your ability to get enough people to view your listing is difficult.  And what if someone books and you don't get into Airbnb quick enough to block off the other dates and someone books in that time?  Then you would be in violation of the ordiance.  You would be fined or if you cancel the reservation, to avoid being in violation, you then lose your status as a SuperHost.  We made a passionate case that those that are host occupied rentals are not the problem children that neighbors complain about.  We are there to police our guests and we are onsite to address issues.  If you have any other questions, I'm happy to help and can be found on the social site that starts with the letter F.  Blessings, Marlene Baldwin

Curt0
Level 5
Traverse City, MI

You can see the correspondence from a citizen in the Jan 14th packet here:

 

https://www.leelanau.cc/downloads/january_2019_packet_1.pdf. 

 

It seems short term rental and home share is allowed now so a zoning ordinance change would be needed and this citizen seems motivated to get things started.  Jeff I think yes you would have to recuse yourself from business considerations but you could sit in the audience and speak in public comment as a citizen.  You need to get as many people there as is possible to speak up positively about airbnb.  Regards,   Curt Peterson 

 

 

April98
Level 2
Grayling, MI

I rent a cabin in northern Michigan on HomeAway I charge the guest a 6% tax for the state of Michigan i pay this fee. I just join Airbnb and they say they pay the 6% tax does anyone know anything about this do we need to report this to the state of Michigan? Thanks April 

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