Advice needed for a drama queen guest

Advice needed for a drama queen guest

Hello hosts,

 

I have been a host for a while, recently I have host a female guest that get me into troubles. So I’m seeking for advices. Much appreciated for all you ideals. 

as many other hosts I went forward and beyond to make my guests happy. But she didn’t appreciated all my efforts but accusing me with many faults facts. Lucky I have them all in videos or photos, but still there are some damages can’t be undone. 

we were getting alone well when she first arrived, she asked me if me and other roommates can hangout with her and her fiance, and I have no problem with that, so 4 of us went to a NBA game at my friends discount price. She asked us if we can take photos with them, she even asked us to take off our face mask for photos in the stadium. No big deal. We did. Went home happy that night. But later I found she have broken many house rules, such as cooking stains over the whole kitchen, even on kitchen ceilings, cabinets. I have to clean after her every time.

Energy abusing, Open window and doors when heat is on. Outside temperature is around 40-55 winter, house heat is set at 70. I even gave her extra portable heater, because she said she is feeling cold.you know how expensive beefy can be after the Russia and Ukraine war. 

 

loud noises after quiet time. Her fiancé only came after mid night, sleep on floor mattress he brought. then keep talking for 3-4hours, loud. 
so I had not choice but to pointed them out to her in Airbnb messages, at first she agreed not to do them again, but still keep doing it. Then I have to tell them if they keep doing that my place is not a fit for them. That’s where things gets ugly. 
she reply with many faults accusations, such as I’m harassing her, not allowing her to use heat.

going outside her window when she is not dressed. She is staying at a room with access to patio, and I have to work on my garden and patio sometimes. There is one day when I bought a tree from Costco, when I move 

the tree to patio, I found the doors is wide open, she is laying on bed playing photo with all  clothes on. It’s cold winter. And there are curtains for her door and window. 

Then here comes the worst: after she made such faults accusations to me, and told me she wants to move out two days later, I figured it would be better is she can move out asap to avoid any further problems. But she told Airbnb she can’t find a place to move at 5-7pm, I’m sure there are many hotel or motel nearby, but she ask to stay for one more night. So out of my kindness I agreed. Then yesterday morning she came to me and told me she forgot her rooms key, ask for spare key, but I couldn’t find it at the moment. So I told her I will need to call a locksmith, and she will need to pay for it. I also told her that I will use my phone to record everything based on her past behaviors. Then she went raged, start to yell that I made her insecure, she wants to call policy, ok, I called police, police told me, it’s not life threatening emergency, so they won’t come. While I was on phone with police, she runs to my neighbors house to ask for help, telling all my neighbors faults story. After I get the results from police on the phone I wanted to tell her, so I walk to my neighbor’s house, and the house owner yelling at me: stay off the property, stay off the property. So I return to my house. because previous some of Airbnb guests, my mean neighbors hated me already, now everyone think I’m a freak. Later a police showed up at my door, asking for what happened, I explained everything to the police, and I wanted to show him those videos, but he didn’t want to, he said he understands my situation, he has seem a lot. So the police helping me open her room’s door,  get her stuffs, and escort her out. 
but the damaged to me, my reputation is seriously done to me. So I’m looking for help here, is there anything I can do to defend my reputations? Since none of my neighbors would talk to me, I have no way to explain/show evidence to them. My conclusion is she is belonging to a crime organization which is helping the guy(fiancé) getting green card, many suspicious action from them. And I feel like she was trying to scam/blackmailing me, but because I have all the evidence, so she can’t, but she is still upset about me filming her, she yells at me for taking videos, which I have clearly mentioned in my Airbnb. What would you do if you are in my situation. 
thanks again 

 

11 Replies 11
Janica4
Level 2
Lehi, UT

Oof.  Sounds like a horrible situation, Walden.  If you can prove her actions have had a negative impact on your income, you could consider suing her for defamation.

 

Did previous reviews of her not indicate a potential problem?

I thought about that idea too, just not sure if it’s worth it. Im sure it’s defamation, but it’s hard to proof the impact to my income. She is from different state. 
she had one  5 star review. I’m not sure the host is giving true review or just try to be nice in order to get a good review back from her. Maybe she was nice. She can be nice if she doesn’t have to cook, and no fiance visits. 

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Walden0  "I’m not sure the host is giving true review or just try to be nice in order to get a good review back from her."

 

That isn't how reviews work. Reviews are blind- hosts and guests cannot see each other's reviews until both reviews are published ( or if only one party leaves a  review, it will bbe published at the 14 day mark), at which time you can't change a review. 

 

So you can't affect the other party's review by the review you leave, nor prevent a bad review by not leaving one yourself.  Which is why all reviews should be honest. 

Thanks. I was trying to say that people can be nice/bad when around different people under different circumstances. Upon you and other reminders, I check her previous review and host in Airbnb, found that host are two work from home  couples, and I’m single man. I’m not white. Recording everything is my only defense. Especially when all other roommates left for work, I was alone with her, and when I start to feel she is getting emotional or start acting, accusing me with faults accusations, I have to record everything. 

John5097
Level 10
Charleston, SC

@Walden0 

As far as reputation, a host reviews will stand for themselves. 

You took the right actions by messaging her through Airbnb app to respect the house rules. If she still kept breaking them, then have the reservation canceled. 

I'm not exactly sure if you violated one of Airbnb policies by recording her with your phone? This could potentially be considered harassment, if you were following her around? You also claimed to have called police on her for a missing key to the room, which could possibly be considered harassment. Also speculating the guest didn't have legal right to be in the country could be discrimination.

I'm not tryin to be critical. Just have to be more aware of potential conficts and try to reason with people and find an mutual agreement if its not a good fit. 

This seems like it was a difficult situation that escalated. Moving forward I would be more proactive in protecting yourself. We can't read your listing, but make sure its clear the patio is a shared space.  Maybe you were upset the door was left open, but a host shouldn't be noticing that much about a guest though a doorway, which means she saw you looking at her through the doorway.  I can understand that you were likley just upset that door was left open, but would consider avoiding being near or looking at any widows or doors, or taking pictures of open door if someone was inside, as you predict how guest might respond. 

Also think of ways to deescalate the situation and reach an agreement with guest that wasn't a good fit. 

Unfortunately when the gloves come off people will resort to lying or they may just be kind of wacky.  

I'm sure someone else will have totally different assessment. I think when deciding to host, a host has to be prepared to evect someone and have to avoid escalating the situation even if it means taking some risk. But thats up to each host and I wasn't there.  


 

My take on this is that the there may be some domestic abuse issues with this couple which is why the fieance is sleeping on the floor. Her rushing to neighbors would also be a tactic for woman in domestic abuse situation.  In short, people this inconsiderate and messy and disruptive likely has far more experience dealing with the police, while you have none, and limited experince dealing with bad behavior.

 

At this point if they let this go, you should also. Its very easy to make mistakes in situation like this. Don't admit to anything. Seek legal advice if necessary. 

Thanks for your reply, It’s legal in my state to film if both party have known they are being recorded. I have not followed her around, I hold my phone when having conversation with her, and sit back in kitchen to call police under her request to call. while I was on phone with police, she runs to neighbors. All of these is recorded in surveillance cameras too. I’m not saying she is here illegally, I’m guessing one of them has no legal paper work, the other one is helping, it’s crime to fake marriage if it’s true. That’s why they have to sleep on different mattresses. 
Patio/deck is shared space, anyone can access to it from Kitchen door or from yard. but if she open her door, everyone will look, you can’t close your eye/ or move your eye away with something so big in front to you. For example, if a guy open his door to public road, and accusing everyone walk/drive by peeking him. 

I also received complaints from other guests about her making huge noises at night, slamming doors in Airbnb messages. I understand you try to think from different angle, but I’m not lying, if it’s legal, I can post all evidence here. 

Mark116
Level 10
Jersey City, NJ

@Walden0  I don't understand why you continue to let her stay.  Get rid of her.  Have Airbnb cancel her remaining nights and get her out of the property before something else or worse happens.

I did. I called Airbnb about her broken house rules, she got really upset, then she texted me to move out in few days, So I called Airbnb about it, but I told airbnb I want  her to leave asap, to avoid bad stuffs happening,  but airbnb told me she said she can’t find a place around 5-7pm, asking for one more night to stay, I was kindly agreed to it. Then next morning after everyone else left the house, she start putting on the show. 

Louise1073
Level 6
San Diego, CA

I have no advice, just thank you for sharing that story. What a wild ride.