Age 30, residing in WI. Trying to book a home for 2 nights t...
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Age 30, residing in WI. Trying to book a home for 2 nights to see family in LA, CA. Keep getting denied for party risk... I d...
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Hi everyone! 😊
I’ve been a little inactive on the forum recently—was having some issues posting (still happens sometimes), but glad to be back and hoping someone here can help or share their thoughts!
Check-in timing & guest communication:
I offer self check-in through a lockbox, but my listing mentions that check-in is allowed until 11 PM. A guest booked instantly and messaged saying he’ll be here by 11.
I’ve followed up asking for an ETA but haven’t heard back yet. My house rules say the main door closes at 11 PM, so I’m up waiting just in case, point is how long do i wait or what are my options (also recently, some additional guest showed up so i raised it with support and they simply asked me ask for reimbursement for the additional guests).
Has anyone been in a similar situation? Just wondering what’s the best way to handle this when there is self check-in, but there’s also a cut-off time. Would love to hear your suggestions!
Toiletries question:
I like to offer the same high-quality toiletries I use at home—makes it feel more personal and thoughtful. I noticed some hosts even mention specific brands for things like shampoo and body wash, which I think is a lovely touch. I couldn’t find where to add that detail in the listing though—do people just include it in the description?
New “Today” tab update:
With the new “Today” tab, I’ve noticed it shows check-outs alongside reservations, and it threw me off a few times. 😅 Curious to know how others are feeling about the update—any tips on how you’re using it to stay organized?
Sustainability (recently read a post for sept sustainability month on the community)
I have added in my house rules, and automated msgs but still often guest leave both the AC's on sometimes it's running at it's max at 16, so what i simple do since all of them are wifi controlled i turn then off my self instead of requesting again or notifying them, it's not only an energy issue but i believe also a safety one ? As i am not sure what time will they come back!
Thanks so much in advance! 🙏
Special shoutout to @Joelle43 for helping me multiple times already 🙂
Hello @Paras45 ,
Here are my suggestions. I’m eager to see what other hosts think too.
A. If you have self check in and also a check in window (for example, between 3pm and 11pm), make sure to set it in the listing rules, mention it in the listing description, and also include it in your scheduled messages. One should go out immediately after the reservation is accepted and another one the day before check in.
B. I can’t recommend promising a specific product or brand. The moment you run out of it, it might be the first thing a guest uses against you in a review if they choose to. Imagine a guest booking your place because of a specific item you mentioned, and then they arrive and it’s not there. It becomes a disappointment.
C. The new Today tab is confusing in every way. I doubt they consult hosts when they make interface updates. Otherwise, I can’t explain it. It is what it is. If Airbnb thinks it is good, so be it.
D. My air conditioners are also WiFi controlled. I have scheduled all of them to turn off at 11:00 in the morning. I mention this in the house book and I encourage guests to turn them off when they leave the house. The only one who benefits from leaving them on is the electricity company.
hope you will find some of this helpful.
You can add a specific type of shampoo, or conditioner, but as @Guy991 mentions, if you happen to run out and have to substitue something else, guests might not only be disappointed - the picky ones might even mention in your review and also give you 4stars for accuracy in the review (it happens).
Like @Guy991 mentions, many Hosts use some sort of remote control on AC (and heating in climates that use that). You must disclose that on the listing and if you limit the temp range (many Hosts do) you need to disclose that on the listing and in the House Manual as well.
UPDATE : They came around 12 PM and were intoxicated. This is my first time hosting guests like this—usually I get families, so this situation has been stressful for me. I have a strict no drinking policy, and such behavior causes mental discomfort. I’m also concerned they might cause damage to the property.
[ This i was trying to post last night could not post beacause of the error, but i have changed my checkin hours from 11 to 8 so i don't get any odd hour checkin requests ]
Would appreciate any kind guidance, it keeps me informed of my rights incase of unfavourable scenarios.
(Also, just wanted to add that it took me 5 tries to post this. I kept getting the same error message, even when I tried posting just a single word. Not sure why already connected with support actually i resolved for a day but did not helped in the long run —hope this can be looked into.)
@Guy991 Thank you so much!
A. Yes, i have scheduled messages which immediately sends upon confirmation, is in my guide, , listing rules and i will add to description as well thanks! @Joan2709 What you guys do in such cases i have also made a update for the same ?
B. Sure will not add the details them, it's just something i like when i am travelling to know as a personal preference as i don't really like any toiletries mostly carry mine so if i know it's the generic common one everyone uses it would be more helpful, honestly at this point i am just think what better or what can i further improve 🙂 @Joan2709 can relate it definitely happens 😕
C. Today-Tab - Yes i get confused a little, and i try to keep finding the old options even tough i am fairly new!
D. I only use the AC-wifi feature incase of misuse only, else it think it is a personal preference, if you want your room ice-cold be my guest 😄 @Joan2709 so i believe i need not to disclose, as honestly the area is pretty big and it isn't okay to leave all the electrical appliances fans and stuff to keep running even when not in use.
Some Hosts do not even allow same day bookings to prevent this very scenario. This is especially true for larger properties. Some Hosts stop accepting same day checkin earlier in the day (6pm). It prevents most of the issues with last minute guests.
I would not say "if you want your room ice cold, be my guest" - guests will crank down the AC so far it actually damages the equipment with some AC units. The Hosts I work with use Wifi thermostats and allow a range the customer can set it to. Usually between 65deg F - 75deg F. Otherwise you are going to be paying big electric bills and possibly have damaged AC units.
@Joan2709 Yes, thank you so much i do understand and i have had good experience so far then this happened lately, so i just wanted to know what are some options available to me, like can i report and their booking is cancelled or anything any one would like to add from their personal experience.
And, yes i am someone who prefers cooling at 24 never less, but this is something i can't regulate it's no a common practise here, as i have known people who strictly prefer 16 at all times and we don't have a culture to regulate the temperature so i believe if i nitpick too much it is going to be a issue and some show up on my review 😞 and, i believe i have made my peace so far with the splurge on electricity bills, as i don't see a choice and as for Units i have tried to have the best quality ones, suited for a commercial use!
Also, if you would like to share any feedback or suggestions for my listing i would appreciate it, thank you so much for your time.
Hello @Paras45
Thank you for the special mention and can see that you've already received great advice from fellow hosts😊
Regarding the AC running all day when guests are out - grrrrh - this is also something I'm trying to tackle as it's an extra cost and certainly not eco-friendly. So in my house information book, I have added a part to remind guests not to leave the A/C on if they leave and have also put a gently reminder on the front door - they can't possibly miss it and maybe, just maybe they will go back to turn it off🤞
When I go to the apartment to clean and see that guests have set the A/C to 16°C, my heart slumps but factoring in the cost of an A/C during the summer is important. Some hosts have decided not to rent during the winter months because the price of electricity and gas is just too high and eats into their profit margins. Some guests put the heating on high and then leave the windows open😱
It's a real thing here in France to be eco-responsible but I realise that in some countries, the cost of electricity is not an issue and being eco-conscious not part of their culture. I can but try and hope for the best!
If you offer self-check-in and Airbnb highlight this on your listing by the way, some guests will automatically think that they can arrive when they want so if you want to be there to greet your guests, I suggest removing the check-in amenity. Or, make sure you communicate the 11pm to your guests via the Airbnb message stream so that it's there in writing to protect you if a guest finds the front door closed!
I haven't updated to the new version yet as there seem to be too many bugs to deal with so can't comment on the new Today page. Sorry.
@Joelle43 @Joan2709 @Guy991 Thank you all, so so very much i just want to know my options in detail, like now i try to map everything i discuss over a call on airbnb messages as well so if it helps me escalate my issues (Support was very good before but my queries are not even understood now let alone resolved and then their is the issue of review)
Like Guest called and was a bit rude when i said no early checkin as it was not confirmed by me first or even requested, i felt i was bullied through my call so i had gave in and made amends yes very stressful, you can't just demand without after an confirmation from me, i don't know what is happening with these streak of guests please advise me on my options, if someone can only see my chat with AIRBNB Support and how they respond 😞
Hello @Paras45
Your check-in time on the listing says 2pm so when this happens, I explain to the guest that I need the full XX hours to clean the apartment fully after the departure of the previous guests but if I am able to finish ahead of schedule, then I will happily let them in sooner. I explain that I cannot guarantee this as it will very much depend in which state the guests have left the place.
Cleaning is the #1 thing that guests mention in their reviews so for me, it's not something that I can compromise on and I make it my duty to offer the same sparkling space to all my guests.
You can suggest a place for the guests to have lunch nearby while you get the place ready. Most Hotels don't allow for early check-in for the same reasons but somehow some guests on Airbnb think that it's their right.
Good luck Paras!
Joëlle
Hello @Paras45,
As always, I agree with @Joelle43.
I tell guests to come back at 3 p.m. Sometimes, I do allow them to arrive earlier, drop their things right at the entrance (so they don’t see the uncleaned space), go for lunch, and return at 3. If it’s ready earlier, like 2:30, we let them know , just like Joelle said.
The most important thing is to stay calm and professional. Your behavior and communication can affect your review as much as anything else. Be courteous and flexible, but make sure they also respect your boundaries.
There’s a wave of difficult guests at the moment. I’m also dealing with two very challenging ones. I see it as my personal challenge. Yesterday I almost called customer service to cancel their reservation, even at the cost of a penalty, just to avoid having to deal with such rude guests. But in the end I gathered my energy and responded politely and professionally. It worked like magic.
Being a host here is an amazing experience on many levels.
Here’s how I would suggest responding to them:
Hello [guest first name],
Thank you for the update.
Check-in starts at 3 p.m. as mentioned in the listing. We need that time to prepare the space properly.
You are most welcome to arrive at 1 p.m., drop off your things, go for a short walk or lunch, and return at 3. If the space is ready earlier, we’ll be happy to check you in before that.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
Regards,
Paras
I always remind myself to clean the property immediately after check-out, not just before a check-in, so it’s always available for early or last-minute arrivals.
I hope something here helps and gives you a few more ideas.
Great questions! For check-in, since it’s self check-in with a cut-off, I’d send one clear reminder and let them know access closes at 11 PM no reply means you’re not expected to wait. For toiletries, yes, listing description or photo captions are great places to mention brands. I’m also adjusting to the new “Today” tab it helps to double-check with the calendar. And you're absolutely right to turn off the AC remotely it's smart and responsible. You're doing great!
@Paras45
I also have a check in window from 3pm to 11pm. Although there is nothing to stop them from checking in after 11pm. They still inquire first if its ok to check in after 11pm and I just instruct them to not wake up neighbors and its all been fine.
Regarding AC. It's extremely hot and humid here where I live. It's far more efficient to leave the AC running. The newer ductless mini split heat pumps have a valve that adjust and its designed to run at its maximum efficiency by leaving it on. The valve adjust and the compressor slows down or speeds up to maintain the set room temperature.
The heat pump AC is also far more efficient by like over 50% .
Additionally it's always over 90% humidity outside and the humidity levels would increase too much inside so that it feels hotter, and can take a long time for the AC to extract the humidity. So guest feel much hotter from the humidity and turn the AC temp down more.
This all applies to a living space with the properly sized AC, as it can't be too big or too small. And properly insulated.
So that turning on and off the AC would be the equivalent to turning off the heat in the winter where it gets well below freezing.
Mold and mildew will also grow in a living space with more than 55% humidity.
Ideally it's best to have the living area very comfortable when they check in. If not they will be hot and turn it all the way to the lowest temp and leave.
This happened to me as a guest. I arrived it was really hot and humid inside and the AC wasn't on. There were no directions or instructions. I called the host who came rushing over, and said it was freezing when she was cleaning. She arrived and said yes it was hot and then found the AC instructions that were in a drawer. I hadn't used a ductless mini split before.
She mentioned that guest turn it down too cold and that's the reason she turned it off.
I did order a remote from a company in Australia that can set the temperature range. For AC I have it set to 68-80 degrees. So great can't turn it below 68 degrees. It's called Aircon Off. It's for ductless mini splits. I'm not sure if they ship to India. I had to pay with PayPal.
@Robin4 is the one who suggested it and it's been great.
I hope that helps.
I just wanted to offer a different take on this.
Hi @Paras45
1. You need to double check your check in cut off times. I once had someone book at 9:35pm for a 10pm check in and was confused as we usually allow bookings till 9pm but the new release and our new listing had a default of anytime it appeared. Luckily since we live on site we got the place ready (code put in, lights on, welcome board out, as it was already cleaned). I quickly went into settings and made sure the cut off time was reasonable so we wouldn’t have any surprises! Many hosts don’t do same day check ins for this reason. We have had a few same day check ins with no issues though.
2. Toiletries: We put the brands we use so guests have an idea of what we provide. It’s important to change it if for some reason you get a different brand (as some guests could mark you down). I’ve seen hosts say in their listing that bed sheets may be different than the pictures. I mean yeah that’s to be expected unless you only do white sheets (we don’t as I like some subtle colors light gray’s, light blues, light greens, white sometimes). But I wouldn’t have thought to write that in my listing nor to downgrade a host for different linens.
3. I don’t like the today tab as I easily would look at the calendar and see who was checking in or out. The reviews I always stay on top of it so don’t need to follow up on past reviews. So I don’t seen any usefulness of this new feature.
4. We have mini split (temp/fan) controllers on the walls for our suites as we didn’t want to have to deal with a lost controller. We don’t limit the ability to set the temperature but understand why hosts would. I do have an auto setting that people can use that has general times to cool/heat upon waking or leaving or coming home or going to bed but we don’t know their schedule. We do have heated floors and I have those on a schedule to save electricity. A guest could increase the temp and it overrides for up to 2 hours then goes back to the schedule.
I do ask guests to turn down/off the heat or ac when they leave and they have been doing this mostly. It’s just because I had someone cool the space to 62F and leave, while others heated the place to 85F! I guess it’s relative so I put suggested info in the house manual and check out instructions. We have not gotten wifi enabled controls yet but it was considered.
5. For guests who want an early check in we explain something like @Guy991 does. Yes it’s important not to have them drop it off at an unmade listing as I’ve read on the CC here where guests then complained that the room was unmade (hello the hosts let you drop off your things when the cleaning crew was cleaning before your check in time and you knew about this - are you trying to get a discount when this was an accommodation that was allowed).
I’ve recently had a guest asking for a late check out without paying for extra time (like 7pm late and check out is 11am, that’s another day, really; saying that they saw on my calendar that I don’t have someone coming in - that is a bit presumptuous to assume I may let you stay 8 hours later without a fee) or early check in like 11am check in (when check in is 4pm) and I have to explain to them that with cleaning, I cannot allow an early check in but am happy to hold your luggage while you explore the area and if we get done earlier we will let you know.
I’ve also had a guest who booked for a night before and checked in at 6am which is acceptable as if you want the space before 4pm, you should reserve the night before.
Since we had several people ask recently we came up with a policy that we allow early check ins if the space is available and if anything over a certain time, we charge in half day increments. I think it may be because some guests thanked us in their review for an early check in/late check out so now people are asking a lot more 😞
On a different thread I explained to a guest that hotel check ins are 3-4pm and early is like 2pm or if the room is ready. You can get even earlier if you are a VIP of that hotel or pay for early access.
Hello @Paras45 ,
Paras, one more thing. If you want to save on costs, check that the air conditioning filters are clean every month. I found it very effective. Some units even give alerts in the app when it is time to clean them.
Just a follow up.
Can just google how much turning off AC saves.
Here is one source, from PBS.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/analysis-does-turning-the-a-c-off-when-youre-not-home-actually-...
It can save 10% turning off AC for 8 hours a day for central AC systems.
But with Airbnb guest if it's hot inside they will turn it all the way down and go out for the day in hopes it will be cool when they get back.
I would suggest for host to monitor electric use for a month just leaving it at a comfortable temp.
My guest rarely adjust the temp as it's comfortable when they check in. The less they touch it the longer it will last.