Hello people, I am new to air bnb, a guest reserved for tomo...
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Hello people, I am new to air bnb, a guest reserved for tomorow and canceled, now she wants her money back, how should I turn...
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I had an awful guest experience and tried to settle it with the guest personally. She stayed at a reduced rate and then needed to extend her stay. We gave her an even bigger rate discount. When she left, she left the place a mess. Dirty, greasy dishes, pots and pans. All the furniture was in dissaray, both sets of blankets/quilts had spots and stains on them, there were crumbs in all the beds on the mattress pads (which had to be hand picked off), and she ruined a set of sheets.
I took 3 days to cool off before I texted her because we really went out of our way to help this guest and she took advantage of us. I told her I was unhappy about the state of the place and asked her to pay $50 to replace the sheets. Prior to this text, she had nothing but glowing reviews and thanks for me in all her texts. She did not understand why she should have to pay for her sheets because I was a woman and the damaged sheets were a result of a "woman thing" and thus I should understand. I said I shouldn't have to pay for her "woman thing".
After much internal debate, I decided to warn other hosts and gave her an appropriate but still not brutal review, even leaving out the refusal to pay for damages and passing on her lame excuse for the mess. She then gave me a bad review, lying about my place and me. Prior to this review, I had 5 star reviews. Now people think my place is noisy and I am rude. My bookings have almost stoped dead in their tracks after her review. Plus, my 3 month pre-book for Jan-March canceled right after the review. I have contacted Airbnb twice about this to no avail. I had responded to her bad review, but not in much detail because I assumed that if I could prove it was a retaliatory review, it would be removed. THIS IS NOT THE CASE! Not only will they not remove it, they won't even let me expound on my explanation to her bad review.
So frustrated! I am knee deep in the process of spending a lot of money to make my other 2 rentals Airbnb rentals and now I can't even get bookings in prime season. Airbnb penalizes us for trying to warn other hosts about bad guests.
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Unfortunately there is probably nothing you can do about it. Things like this happen to all of us (guests, especially newer ones have wildly different expectations) and I hate the fact that one bad review plants a seed in future guests' minds (for example, I had one who stayed for nearly a month and I left town for nearly a week - I live in the part of the home - I came back and she had left an old pizza box, empty bottles,etc....her review dinged me for cleanliness?!)
Some guests are just horrible and/or petty (and I'm sure a handful of hosts are not so great either) but the best thing to do is learn from it.
I never leave a review for a guest unless I've personally interacted with him/her. I do this because if you are the first to leave a review, your guest sees that you left one and if they felt their stay was unpleasant, they have nothing to lose by leaving you a nasty review. A host may rely on sharing their home to cover a significant portion of housing costs, extra income, etc. but a guest may book an Airbnb once or twice a year. And even if guests get not so great reviews, in many cities there are plenty of hosts who would just be happy for the income.
I've been fortunate to have not yet had many "nightmare" guests but I would learn from this experience - do not be the first to review a guest! If they feel strongly about your space (negative or positive) they will usually leave a review. If I've had a weird situation/neutral, I don't bother. If my interaction was positive, I ask them to send me private feedback as to what I can do better. If someone leaves a review, you can comment on it but if you think someone had a less than stellar experience, you as a host leaving a review only prompts a guest to leave one as well (which may be unfair, misleading, etc.)
Saw your listing and I really don't think your guest's review was that bad. If anything it was probably prompted by your interaction with her following her stay. You have 5 stars and it was overall a positive review! I have no plans to go to Tucson but I'd stay in your place! In the future, I'd just let small inconveniences like that go. Don't be a pushover but understand accidents happen and sometimes minor things occur with otherwise well-meaning guests:
-No smoking but someone opens a window thinking they can get away with it
-Someone breaks a glass
-Uses toilet and "forgets" to flush (nasty but happens)
My advice:
1.) Do not post a review first - Regardless of what you do, you get sometimes get less than 5-stars! If you've had a less than fantastic dialogue with a guest, posting a review prompts them to do the same - in your case, she knew you were upset about the sheets & was probably defensive about being asked to pay $50 for an accident - If she thought you were upset with her as a host, I am not suprised that she didn't give you a fantastic, glowing review in response to the notification that you had left her a review.
2.) Don't sweat the small stuff
3.) Just buy a $10 set of sheets from Wal-Mart and consider it a "cost of doing business" if they are ruined at some point
I recently had very bad experience with guest . She left garage open overnight and when I texted her next day she started complaining about everything . She gave me bad 2star review . She called my neighbors odd , smell of my flat odd and doll she found in cabinets creepy. However - at the end - she told she would gladly stay with us again 😱. Weird!! I wonder if with deleting review they also delete rating ?
I feel your pain Megan. In hindsight it was probably not worth contacting your guest with a request for paying for new sheets as this just alerted her that you were going to give her a bad review - so she retaliated. Apart from a bit of clearing up it sounds like you really only lost a set of sheets and your profits and offset tax is there to cover all this. I think everyone gets these from time to time and you have to suck it up and put it down to experience.
I would either keep quiet and send the honest review after they have left - or, if you think you are going to get a bad review back for no reason, just dont post a review at all. Then move on.
I am pretty new to all this but it seems to be a bit of a game you have to learn to deal with the people who are a problem.
Russ
@Megan160 If you aren't able to get any book in due to that comment that the guest has left I would advice you to delete your listings and start from zero. In my opinion you did the right thing about this dirty guest who thinned and damaged many items in your property. Good luck for the future.
I've overlooked a lot of things in the past and always given positive reviews but I recently left two truthful ones because I felt that it was fishy and something was going to happen. AIrbnb is also doing something very weird with hiding a guest review and not letting me respond or read it until it will be too late in a few days.
I think a negative review is warranted if you feel that something is being done that will make you look really bad undeservedly.
Hi Megan,
If you need to get back on track then I recommend that you drop your daily price to an extremely resonable rate and perhaps even remove your cleaning fees for the forthcoming week or two. That should be sufficient to quell the negative review with fresh [and hopefully-] good ones.
I suffered a similar situation when a guest blamed for for everything she could think of during her overnight stay while we were suffering a regional heat wave, and it blew over without a hitch. Frankly, having a poor review and/or rating proves the authenticity of the remaining 120 4-and-5-star reviews, and travelers know that some guests can be malicious and even deranged. I would suggest to just be nice and not bring it up at all ever, and if you must then only in a respectful manner.
Regards,
Jeff
Wow...prayers that things will turn around for you. Sure hate that you had that experience.
Never, ever, accept a booking for a guest that has asked for a discount. This alone will prevent many bad experiences.
I had bad experience with guest who asked for discount and was given discount and some extra stuff in during his stay. We ended up guest stole lots of supplies and gave me 4 stars almost in every category . However his review was nice . I am new host and eating is so important 😭
in hindsight this is true
yes just experienced that from a Canadian guest. I gave her half price as it was the day before . Then she took 7 hours to decide blocking my calendar . I spent the entire day out of hospital on the phone to airbnb about it. Finally she booked it and the mess she left was so disrespectful of my home. I cant believe someone can leave such filth. Yes I escalated it and didnt get anywhere *even with pics. and I am waiting for the 'retaliation review' . It is not easy !
I am pretty sure the review system is blind...neither of you can see what the person wrote and I have no idea how it benefits anyone if you can see what they wrote. I have had a review I've left on a guest removed by airbnb...they were a HORRIBLE guest and sadly someone else will get them at some point. The worst guests are the ones who are staying at a discount--just saying the less people pay the more they want and my daughter says that when someone says they will rate you five stars..WATCH OUT! Those are the ones who will rate you the lowest.
I live in a very, very touristy place that is the exception to all rules. People come here and lose their minds and I see people have great reviews by hosts and they are not great guests--so I usually chalk it up to they arrive to my home drunk...or something happens while they are out having fun and it makes them behave badly. Don't get me started on guests...after 130-some sets of guests I've hosted, I can tell you the more you host the more unpredictable people can be and the more room for damage and error. That is all just part and parcel to this.
It's price point people are after. You can't even break even if folks are expecting 500 thread count sheets and a full hot meal when they arrive. I actually had a review that said they were disappointed I didn't have sandwiches and bottled water when they arrived...she asked me three times if I had sandwiches lol. My advice is just do the best you can. The more people you host, the more chance you're going to be replacing something or having to figure out how to get some goofy stain out of the comforter or where did the picture go that was hanging off the wall lol. Just clean it up and get ready for the next guest...just move forward. Clear your mind and thank goodness that guest has left and hopefully the next one will be better.
best advice ! I am coming slowly to this conclusion. I have had a good run to be honest but last few were just absolutely FERAL . It hurts as I really take pride in my home/business. I bought all new furniture. I do the garden myself . I had it all renovated in the bathrooms and to walk into to a pile of rubbish and alcohol bottles and FILTHY kitchens - leaving their crap everywhere is UNBELIEVABLE and totally DISRESPECTFUL it takes me a few days to shake it off. I have raised these guests with airbnb.. taken photos and my gripe is the power they have as you complain (for extra cleaning eg) and they get their back up .. deny it .. regardless of photo evidence and then to PAY BACK I get the bad review ??? I don't think this is right and this is something that needs to be adjusted in a fair system . We are working for airbnb as well. We are hosting and yes shake it off I fully agree .. but to wear the 'badge of a bad review' in the bargain ?? I think all guests/hosts who have had been raised with the resolution centre should have their opportunity to leave a retaliation review revoked. It isnt just and it isnt accurate and it is damaging to the host's potential business and reputation .
I feel same as well.
If a host have had to involve the resolution centre to claim the costs to a damage, then any review from a guest after this should be revoked, or a guest should not be given the opportunity to leave a review after a damage. Reviews should be a privilege to guests who have respected a host's property.
All guests are entitled to a review, but guests should loose this entitlement when they choose to disrespect a host's property as any host who gets their property damaged go through a lot of stress trying to correct a damage.
Out of 32 wonderful guest, I have had the worst guest ever. He checked out on Monday, and I have never seen my rooms left in this way. From this guest checked in, I knew he was going to be a problem, but I was cordial and professional when I interacted with him. I did not expect him to leave the mess that I saw.
My home is open to all guests to sit in the family and living room, but Fred acted like the couch in my living room was for his use only. He only used his room to sleep in, and that was after in fell asleep in the couch, everyday including the weekends. When other guests or family members came into the family room, he would continue to lay in the couch with his legs and feet stretched out. The one day we were all talking, and the other guest had to stand in the living room, because Fred would not take his feet out of the couch to let him sit down(so rude). Another time my boyfriend came into the living room and he did the same thing, and would not let him sit in the couch. So on that day I had to bring him to my bedroom so that we could watch TV. So my boyfriend told me he would not visit me until this guest left. I could not understand why he had to lay in my couch on his labtop everyday, because he had a large desk in his room.
I have house rules, and one of them is no feet in the couches, but he just did not care. Also quiet time from 11 - 5, but he would be on his phone loud at night, distrupting everyone in my house. He would'nt even close the door, of his room, so we all had to here his conversations at night.
Ok so when checked out on Monday he left the room in a disgusting state. He left 42 empty and half filed bottles and cans all over the room and under the bed. He cleaned his teach with tooth picks and just tossed them on the floor, desk and in the bed. There was half eaten food left in the bed, as well as crumbs and trash left on the desk. He put his dirty feet on the walls and left foot prints.
I don't know how to complete a review on this guest, as I know he will give me a bad review, and that will affect my bookings. I get 5 star reviews. However I do feel I should warn other hosts, as Fred is definately not a good guest for the Airbnb enviroment, and should stick to hotels.
@Norma-Lee0 Respecting boundaries in a shared home environment is part of the shared home experience. Of course it is the host's responsibility to clarify what the boundaries are both in written rules and in reinforcing the rules. This guest is more suited to entire apartment or hotel experience. If you do not want him back then you should give him a thumbs down review. You cannot tip toe around the fact that this person is not suited to the shared environment hosting.
That being said, you do publish that the couch is an optional bed. Is that the same couch he slept on or is there a different couch in the living room? Since you have two separate rooms listed in your home, you might modify your guest access description to read, "guest are welcome to share the living room, kitchen... etc with other guests and the hosts."
Hope this helps