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Dear All,
I am Kellan, and I am a traveller. I am very new on this community.
I am currently a researcher who investigate sharing economy, particularly solutions for both host and service providers will consider to increase their benefits.
At the moments, I am looking at the phenomenon "host's rejection". I have a number of your discussions on this community, and get some idea in mind. However, it would be great I can officially start a thread and we can discuss in one place.
Could you please share with me your concerns regarding some questions below?
1. What makes you reject a potential guest? Please share any potential causes.
2. Which is the most important reason for you to reject a guest?
3. How often will you reject a guest?
4. When will you reject the guest? Is there any possibility to reject a guest after you accepting them, and what reason for that?
5. Can you estimate your rejection rate, possibly per week/ per month?
6. Do you think the sharing service provider's policy can decrease the rejection ?
7. Could you please share any ideas you think it would be help all service providers, host and rejected guest?
All ideas are respected and helpful in this discussion.
I would like to say thank you for all you stop here, read the post and leave some comments.
Wish we all Airbnb, host and guest can co-create the best values for us.
Best,
Kellan.
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Hello, not sure if you are still collecting data for this, but as the thread is still going, here are my answers:
1. What makes you reject a potential guest? Please share any potential causes.
- They want to bring children, even though my listing states no under 18s. This is a frequent request.
- The booking guest is actually under 18. They shouldn't officially even have their own profile, but sometimes they do.
- They want to bring a pet. This is a rare request, but occasionally happens.
- They have really misunderstood what they are booking, e.g. they think they are getting the whole house (or an apartment) not a room in my home. Sometimes they just think they are getting a private bathroom but the bathrooms are actually shared.
- They have not read that I have cats and they are allergic.
- They do not respond to my questions witin the 24 hour period a host has to accept/reject.
Incidentally, most guests will cancel their request once you explain, so you don't necessarily have to 'reject' them.
2. Which is the most important reason for you to reject a guest?
- Wanting to bring children is probably the most common reason why I have to reject a booking. Some guests will try to persuade me their child is wonderful and I should let them stay, but that is not the point. I will not budge on this one!
The next most common reason (but not the most important) is guests not responding to quesitons in time. In these cases, I tell them if they send another request including the requested information, then I will accept it.
3. How often will you reject a guest?
Hard to say. Maybe once a month or less.
4. When will you reject the guest? Is there any possibility to reject a guest after you accepting them, and what reason for that?
I always ask them to confirm they have read the listing and agree to the house rules before I will accept a guest's request. I ask them questions if there is something I am unsure about, or for more information if they haven't sent any in the first place. This means that potential problems are usually brought up BEFORE booking.
For instant booking guests, my welcome message asks them to respond to a short set of questions, which includes confirming they've read the listing/agree to the rules.
I've only once cancelled after a guest booked (it was an instant booking). This was due to several factors. If it had only been one, perhaps I would not have cancelled, but combined, they really worried me. They included: guest booked 2 nights, but wanted to stay for 5, then 6. Kept booking for less nights/people than needed. Asked for a discount. Kept ignoring my check in/check out times. Was slow to respond and had to be asked questions over and over again.
I also once asked a guest to cancel her reservation herself, but it was an extreme case that involved a break up and a suicide attempt. I did not want to risk such a thing happening in my home!
5. Can you estimate your rejection rate, possibly per week/ per month?
Hard to say. Not more than once a month on average.
6. Do you think the sharing service provider's policy can decrease the rejection ?
Yes, the main thing is better education for guests so they understand the importance of 1. Completing their profiles. 2. Communicating with hosts. Some attempt has been made to do this, but there needs to be more.
I think it should be compulsory for guests to complete their profiles before they can send a booking request/enquiry, i.e. they have to write a description, add a photo.
There should also be a short form when sending a request, where they have to fill in fields for the most common host questions, e.g. Who are you travelling with? What is the purpose of your visit? You have this in part with IB, but even then, guests don't answer all the required questions. It should be compulsory in order to make the booking.
In fact, if someone is booking for two or more people, I think it should be compulsory that they fill in the names of the other guests.
7. Could you please share any ideas you think it would be help all service providers, host and rejected guest?
See above.
Also, I think hosts should respond to requests within 24 hours, BUT should have 48 hours before accepting/declining as not all guests respond to questions in time. OR, the host has to respond to the guest within 24 hours, but if they have questions, the guest then must respond within 24 hours to those. I think either of these would greatly reduce rejections.
Thank you very much for sharing both good and bad hosting experiences with us. We can learn much from them.
You made the right points for guest who are asking too much or who do not read carefully host's guidelines before send some inquiry message, these guests are more likely to be rejected.
Among the reasons you would consider to put down a guest, you do not accept for bf/gf to sleep over because your listing is only for single person staying. Visiting your listing page makes me more understand on this point.
Regarding 3rd party booking, could you share with me how you know one booking is from 3rd party booking? Is there any possibility in the inquiry message they are saying something like they are booking for someone else, or they are an agency? Please advise me more on this.
Many thanks,
Best,
Kellan
I usually ask very nicely but point blank "Did you read my descriptions and house rules?" "Are you aware ONLY the guest who made this reservation will be allowed entry into my home and I do not allow for guests to bring friends or anyone over to the house?"
Usually this is when people start talking ......
(1) yes i did see that but since I'm staying a whole month, would you allow my gf/bf to stay with me for just a few days when she visits?
(2) well actually, this reservation is for my friend/family. I'm not the one that will be staying with you.
1. What makes you reject a potential guest? Please share any potential causes.
-Repeatedly asking questions that I answered in the listing description and then have answered again via messaging. Basically, annoying me.
-Asking for discounts
2. Which is the most important reason for you to reject a guest?
-Annoying me/unrealistic expectations. I know those kinds of guests will leave bad reviews no matter what I do.
3. How often will you reject a guest?
-Rarely. Someone almost usually books before they do THANK GOD! I think I've declined 4 requests total since I started hosting
4. When will you reject the guest? Is there any possibility to reject a guest after you accepting them, and what reason for that?
-No, I honor all accepted reservations.
5. Can you estimate your rejection rate, possibly per week/ per month?
-Hmm, once or twice per year
6. Do you think the sharing service provider's policy can decrease the rejection ?
-Yes and no. I think if you look at the overall reason for rejection, and it is something fairly objective that causes rejections, then policies can be written to address that. I see a lot of people talking about 'gut feeling' which is totally subjective and can often be rooted in past experiences and biases which are a lot harder to encapsulate in policy.
7. Could you please share any ideas you think it would be help all service providers, host and rejected guest?
-Airbnb should have cute little video tutorials on how to view listings as far as type and how to search for what you want. Sorting tools and more enhanced filters would also help guests.
For hosts, I think we have to do the best we can because many of us are inviting practically strangers into our home, especially those of us who take a chance on a first-time guest.
My two cents:
1. What makes you reject a potential guest? Please share any potential causes.
Third party bookings, booking requests from minors, people who state they are looking for a place to 'crash' after a party or want to have a party or invite people over (ie, reserving for a possible 'good date going great' as this means a person unknown to me is in my home, people who are trying to jam as many people in the room as possilbe (I once had a request for 5 people for the one bedroom and could I send a photo so they could figure out which way to sleep on the floor!), people who start out by asking for a discount, people who seem to have 'entitlement' issues as exemplified by their attitude toward me when they write, people who refuse to answer my questions (usually asked because they have not read my listing and it comes across in what they write), people who want to do lots of cooking (certain cultures I almost always have to ask because if I don't they arrive with pots and pans and completely occupy the kitchen to the point we can't make our own meal at any reasonable time).
2. Which is the most important reason for you to reject a guest? I think because London is so expensive the primary reason is people trying to 'overbook' the room, and people who want things that are simply not allowed if they'd have read my listing. I think if guests actually read a whole listing instead of copy/pasting the same message to a herd of different hosts, they'd have a better experience and wouldn't be rejected (at least by me!)
3. How often will you reject a guest? Rarely - maybe 5 or 6 times in two years?
4. When will you reject the guest? Is there any possibility to reject a guest after you accepting them, and what reason for that?
I reject and explain as soon as it becomes obvious that is what I want to do. Can't reject after accepting (unless extenuating circs, or they get really strange, then I'd call AirBNB)
6. Do you think the sharing service provider's policy can decrease the rejection ? Most guests can prevent their own rejection by reading the listing and behaving respectfully to people wanting to share their homes with them.
Hello @Tracy0,
Thank you very much for helping me understant more causes leading to rejection by host for a potential guest.
You gave the potential travelers very good advice: Examine the whole listing's guidelines and Respect the Hosts who want to share their home with. This is also a good advice for myself.
Could we further elaborate more on some poins:
* minor people: do you mean someone under legal age?
* people who refused to answer your questions: do you mean someone did not answer your questions during the communication before actual booking? It could be out of the context, could I know some common questions you will have for your potential guests given that they appears as good potential guests ? I guess maybe some questions relating to confirmation of travel dates and some specific arrangements?
Thank you again @Tracy0,
Best,
Kellan
Hi @Ellen104,
Your post is really interesting, particular the policy and solution part!
Guest-Host is a win-win relationship built on perceived trust by both parties. We must build a very good interactions from the beginning of the service, which is communication and reading carefully host's guidelines.
You mentioned great points regarding the tutorial videos to help guest view efficiently the host's listings and also some more useful sorting, filtering function design. I think I am going to explore more on this way in the future.
Big thanks,
Kellan
Hi @Ellen,
Your post is really interesting, particular the policy and solution part!
Guest-Host is a win-win relationship built on perceived trust by both parties. We must build a very good interactions from the beginning of the service, which is communication and reading carefully host's guidelines.
You mentioned great points regarding the tutorial videos to help guest view efficiently the host's listings and also some more useful sorting, filtering function design. I think I am going to explore more on this way in the future.
Big thanks,
Kellan
1. Bad Reviews or Lying about the number of People/ Parties
2. Lying about the number of people
3. 1 in 100
4. Either before or after they Book depends on when they Lie. I alsways ask them how many people? Then if they Book 5 and bring 10 say 10 people will be coming I will cancel the booking.
5. 1 in 100
6. No because people will Lie. Honesty on the part of guests will decrease cancellations.
7. Guests Stop Lying
I have been a host for five months and have never rejected a guest. I am booked 95% of the time. I have had only two guests I would never welcome back again- and they were not that bad, just not people suited for airbnb-type of stay. I would say out of all my guests, only a handful have ever used Airbnb before. I get many guests who have no reviews, no government id, etc etc. I live in a tourist place...a place that caters only to tourists and all laws of the city cater to aiding tourism money flow in. So, many people and behaviors are acceptable here that may not be anywhere else in the world. I always meet the person when they first check in and I"m usually home, so a guest is never left alone in my home. If I refjected guests because they were not 'verified' I probably would get maybe one or two bookings a month. I get a lot of last minute bookings. I've had guests check in with absolutely no luggage...stay the night, wake up and leave and they have been polite and left my place clean. I have had guests book well in advance, act like they are seasoned travelers...have governement id and stayed in an Airbnb space before and be rude and leave the place messy. In general I find most guests to be fine people but I really do not see a difference in verified or unverified guests...it is hit or miss with each guest and that is just the chance we take. Rememeber....Airbnb's 'verfifying' is nothing more than making sure their google account exists; the Airbnb verification is not a background check. Also, my space is a totally seperate end of my home and has even a seperate entrace. The guests never walk through my home, so probably would feel differently if I total stranger was sleeping literally in the next room to me! Honestly I would not even do Airbnb if I did not have my mother-in-law quarters.
I reject everyone who hasn't read this listing and STILL tries to book: https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/17224857. You will be surprised at how many try. I change my wording every now and then but still don't have the guest's full attention. On my main house listing https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/3769179 I only reject guests who clearly don't fit the actual rules, such as 9 people in a 5 people space (we don't mind squeezing in). I don't mind first time users, no photos, no profile on the basis that when I have taken bookings in different ways than with Air (ran accom before Air was born) I never ever had the luxury of knowing anything about them. I do appreciate a profile and a photo, but it isn't necessary.
@Kellan0 I have so far never had to reject a guest. I will not use Instant Book because I want to exchange a message or two with the potential guest to determine whether they will be a good fit, as they will be sharing my home. And I want guests who feel the same way- who care who they will be sharing a home with, rather than just caring that they have a booking.
So because guests cannot IB with me, I don't have to cancel those who aren't a fit, rather I just message back their inquiry or booking request and they then look for another listing which better suits them.
Reasons for not a good fit:
Don't bother to read the listing and request, for instance, bringing an extra guest when my listing clearly states it is for a solo traveler, or ask a ton of questions, the answers to which are obvious if they only bothered to read the listing description. This indicates that they have no respect for others' time.
Ask for a discount when my listing is one of the least expensive in my area for the space and amenities I offer.
And I have reported guests who try to circumvent airbnb by asking me for my phone number or email address. This is also indicative that that they haven't bothered to familarize themselves with how airbnb works- if they had, they would know that the platform blocks personal information until after a guest has booked.
Hi @Sarah977,
Such an interesting information.
Thank you very much for your post.
Just in case you will reject someone, do you think you will lose some resources?
Best regards,
Kellan