Hello everyone,
As you know I share a lot of your feedback...
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Hello everyone,
As you know I share a lot of your feedback with Airbnb teams.
The Superhost team is currently evaluating ...
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Hello again, Hosts!
Your ideas and questions about the Host Guarantee have sparked some important conversation at Airbnb headquarters. As with our recent Q&A posts on Smart Pricing, Search, and Instant Book, we collected lots of questions from you here in the Community Center—this time on the Host Guarantee. We’ve got insights for you from the Host Guarantee team, and we hope these are helpful. Keep the ideas and questions coming—you’re inspiring us to consider changes and improvements we can make to this program in 2018.
Cheers,
Lizzie
On security deposits and the Host Guarantee
1. What’s the difference between a guest’s security deposit and the Host Guarantee?
A guest security deposit is something you can choose to require of your guests. The security deposit is an acknowledgement by the guest that they may be charged up to the full amount should they cause damage to your listing. If you choose to require a security deposit from your guests, they don’t actually pay the deposit when they make the reservation. Instead, they’re charged only if you make a claim through the Resolution Center on that deposit and it’s accepted by the guest or granted through mediation by Airbnb.
The Host Guarantee provides up to $1,000,000 in protection from Airbnb for instances when guests damage a host’s property. In order to process a request, you would use the Resolution Center to upload documentation of the damages (such as photos or receipts), and first request payment from your guest to cover those damages. You and your guests can work out the details on your own, or you can choose to involve Airbnb directly in the Resolution Center. The best way to ensure a smooth process with your guest or with Airbnb is to submit your report of the damage, along with support documentation as soon as you identify the damage.
2. What benefit does the Host Guarantee provide if I can just make a claim against a guest’s security deposit?
3. If the security deposit cannot be collected from the guests, or doesn’t cover the damages, does the Host Guarantee still kick in?
4. Do I have to pay anything for the Host Guarantee?
5. Can I require a security deposit for any length stay or just for longer stays?
On Host Guarantee’s scope of protection
6. In what specific situations does the Host Guarantee kick in (theft, damage, excessive cleaning costs etc.)?
The Host Guarantee provides payment for theft or physical damage to your listing caused by the responsible guest, or the guest’s invitee(s), during their stay. For complete details, you can review the full terms. Items such as routine cleaning costs (including excessive linen costs or floor cleaning) or additional guests fees are not provided under the Host Guarantee program.
You have the option of including a cleaning fee in your pricing. You may also send an alteration request or a request through the Resolution Center if fees are sought for additional guests not included in the original booking.
7. If the Host Guarantee is applied to my situation, will I get the full value I paid for an item or its present value?
8. Why doesn’t the Host Guarantee cover antiques?
9. Does the Host Guarantee apply for extenuating circumstances during a booking (e.g. burst water pipe, fire)?
10. Why doesn’t the Host Guarantee apply when a guest cancels due to extenuating circumstances?
11. I’ve heard that if I have a key lockbox outside my home the Host Guarantee does not cover me anymore. Is that true?
On claims and payments
12. How can I prepare in case I need to use the Host Guarantee?
13. What if I can’t get any documentation/quotes needed by the request deadline?
14. To make a claim for the Host Guarantee I have to do it within 14 days after the date of guests departure, but I don’t have the time and money to replace what the previous guest damaged before my next guest arrives. What should I do?
15. How do I get money back from the Security Deposit for damage?
16. What’s the point in having a security deposit if we can’t use it? Why do we need the approval of the guest for it to be paid out?
Thanks again to all the hosts who shared questions about the Host Guarantee. Please keep your ideas and feedback coming in the Community Center.
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Reading all these comments make me think about the integrity of airbnb towards protecting hosts. Like Uber, their priority is to increase guests, given the huge stock of hosts.
So not surprising they tend to ignore the host when a claim is made for refund.
I think I am going to remove my house from airbnb due to the risk of getting my beautiful house becoming a casualty of bad guests. Too risky unless I use a house for which I value neither the walls nor the contents.
"The Host Guarantee program provides payment either for the repair or replacement cost of the damaged item."
Uisng the term replacement cost is very misleading - it is not replacement cost as generally understood it is the cost of depreciated value of the item. If an attempt is being made to clear up confusion for hosts why not state that clearly.
I understand the terms are legalese, one has to focus on details and definitions, and realize that replacement cost does not mean replacement cost or actual cost it means "Actual Cost". How to make that clearer to hosts. In the spirit of transparency and clarity a better explanation could be offered, if that is the goal here.
But, why even use replacement cost, it muddies the waters, why not say depreciation value. I have insurance for my work and it is very clear and transparent, "Replacement Cost" means "Replacement Cost" i.e the amount it would cost to replace the item in today's market, and Depreciation Value" means what it says, the two terms are not conflated.
My impression from reading many posts on here is that:
The wording is more Insuranceese than legalese, I recognise it, most policies now will provide Replacement as New with various caveats.
Somebody at ABB needs to get a grip, decide how much they are prepared to spend on this, get somebody who can add up to put together a policy that meets that budget and explain it as it is and not oversell.
Dear Airbnb,
My Airbnb renters did not follow instructions to keep food out of the way of monkeys that are resident in the trees around my home. Needless to say, the monkeys saw food on the kitchen counter, prized open a window and entered the house, knocking over my television set and breaking it. The set was worth R6000. Can I claim from them?
Rgds.
Glenda
Glenda Thompson. ...Sent from my iPad
I have a $350 security depost and a guest damaged my shower causing $171 worth of damage on New Years Eve. I notified him on the day. I got a quote from our shower installer and attached it with photos demonstrating the damage to a resolution centre claim. The guest denied seeing the photos. He phoned me at 10pm to complain about the cost. I phoned Airbnb six times in the past 12 hours for support, three times they hung up on me. One of the things I was trying to suggest is the difficulty in finding the resolution centre online. As a host, I expect to communicate with my guests in one place. Or to click hosting, scroll down to a tab view resolution centre. I don't expect to have to type in a different address in my web browser to find the resolution centre.
Anyway, my disgruntled guest went and visited our shower installer without my knowledge to complain about the cost and question their business practice. They phoned me to warn me and also found his manner to be angry. He has my phone numbers, email, and home address. I am home most days looking after a baby, a 3 year old and my guests. The last thing I want is a disgruntled guest turning up long after check out, days later. I have had to escalate to Airbnb's security team though quite what that entitles me to other than someone being assigned to my case earlier than expected, I am not sure.
This is the first time I have been in a position of needing to make a claim. I do hope we receive a pay out. It would be incredibly unfair otherwise, especially given the guest has damaged two properties in 5 reviews and has not followed Airbnb process for communication. But more than the payout, I wonder what it would take to prohibit someone who damages property, doesn't follow house rules (he didn't follow ours waking my babies up in the night with party music), and doesn't want to communicate through Airbnb from being allowed to be a member of Airbnb? No host should have to risk it all for guests like this.
Irrespective of whether I am paid out, this experience and the difficulty I had escalating through Airbnb Support and the damage to our reputation with our shower installer having one of our guests turn up at their premises and be angry with them too has certainly made me evaluate whether hosting with Airbnb is worth it. If I hadn't had 75 mostly pleasant and enjoyable experiences I think I would have quit outright. But the security aspect is causing me ongoing concern. I'm not sure I want to be part of a community that tolerates guests that behave this way to be a part of the community.
Has anyone else found the security team helpful?
Beware! You have to PULL TEETH for Airbnb to pay out on their guarantee!!!
FYI - Airbnb makes their guarantee sound so wonderful, but it took HOURS of arguing with the Airbnb management and being passed around to about 15 different people to get them to honor it.
I require a deposit and in a matter of 36 hours (they rented for 2 days but got there late) DESTROYED the house and property.... broken glass at the pool, used feminine products in the pool filter, liquor bottles and clothes in the backyard bushes, stainless steel cleaner sprayed on the custom hardwood floor, blood all over the bedding....
Receipts and estimates (3 for each of the items that needed to be repaired) were provided right from the start, and they still tried to refuse to pay....
I believe it was only because my business partner and I were so diligent, keeping notes of each call and contact with them, and because we were soooo persistant, they finally gave up and paid us.
BE PREPARED!!! If you don't have a deposit and are seeking compensation from Airbnb, you are GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT!!!
In looking thru the FAQs provided, a couple questions:
#3: If a host has a security deposit, but the damage exceeds the amount, then does the host lose access to the security deposit and instead only has recourse thru the HG?
OR does ABB first pay the host whatever amount was in the security deposit and then decide the rest through the HG?
#6: says that theft is covered however, in the actual terms this is one of the exclusions:
"mysterious disappearance, loss, or shortage disclosed on taking inventory, or any unexplained loss of inventory;"
So, unless you have video of the guest carrying something out of your place or if they admit that they have taken something, then it would seem that ABB would call theft, a 'mysterious disappearance'
#7: Present value: this is misleading! Unless your listing is minutes old and you have receipts for absolutely everything inside then most likely when the guest cuts, burns, melts your couch, rug, drapes, kitchen counter then the depreciated value of this item will mean that a host gets NO payment. So, a host had a lovely working couch, then a bad behaving guest and at the end host has to replace the item themselves and the guest makes no restitution whatsoever. Not Right!
@Lizzie seems you have plenty of hosts whose experiences with HG are not as rosy as this FAQ would suggest. And in fact many folks feel that the marketing around HG is deceptive and a program that was designed to make hosts feel safer about hosting has had the opposite effect. This should be addressed.
I believe the would apply first and then anything else could a Guarantee claim.
In the old days there was in Insurance terms full Theft and basically cover for break ins, Ie the door was bashed in or the window broken, now if a Guest steals something most unlikely limited Theft cover would apply,
They basically apply Indemnity value but have a weird depreciation scale.
@Kelly149 @David126 - Is ANY actual theft or loss covered? Or is it denied due to the policy stating that "mysterious disappearance, loss, or shortage disclosed on taking inventory, or any unexplained loss of inventory..." won't be covered, (per Kelly's most disturbingly revelatory comment, above)?
This all sounds like '1984' Newspeak to me. What do these exclusions actually mean, minus the Orwellian influences?
Theoretically yes.
But I would be very hard pushed to come up with a relaistic scenario where this could happen in an AirBnB situation.
When I first started in the Insurance Industry the standard theft cover available under a commercial policy was basically Burglary, in the UK this was as defined by the the Theft Act of 1968, so you had to break in, did not cover somebody walking in through an open door etc.
The AirBnB Host Guarantee reminds me of if a very old Insurance Policy form, and covers Burglary, actually they have added now on some more exclusions that I do not remember ever seeing, I think those are self generated, not from Insurance advise.
So shoplifting is not burglary.
The full cover was Theft but even for that there were exclusions and obviously subject to a deductible.
When you only cover the actions of people who have access to your property seems unlikely to me that they would commit Burglary, why break in when you have a key.
I do not know who drafted this wording, I would be interested to know the background as I am guessing a bit but I think my guesses are reasonable.
If I was advising a client who was covered under the AirBnb Guarantee I would tell them to assume Theft was not covered.
does the host guarantee cover hosts who (unknowingly) allow a third part booking? Sometimes guest profile photos are not good enough to identify a guest and it seems overly paranoid and not in the spirit of trust to ask them to A) post a better photo or B)provide photo ID at check in, which as a working couple, we are not often around to do anyhow...
Sometimes bookers are up front that they are booking for someone else(ie: a parent) but other times, it's unclear as reviews are for one name, but the person inquiring has a different name.
Anyhow, long way around to asking how to protect oneselves from a third party booking or whether AirBnB coverage extends to that.
BTW - a cat lives with us(not in the rental) so I have been unable to become "business ready" which I believe does cover 3rd party.
value of host guarantee is very arguable but moving on say in your listing you require Id to be shown on arrival.
I think the Business ready only refers to pets. So a cat may or may not preclude you.
Anyway it has to be in the listing.
"Business Travel Ready listings are smoke-free properties and don’t have pets living in the space while the guest is there."
Here in Spain is compulsory by the law to ask the ID for each traveler , fill a paper form and fill a form on internet (police web page).with this system I think traveler are little bit scared to stole things in the apartment
Checking the HG introduction, it is written as so:
"The Host Guarantee protects your home and your stuff from accidental damage."
So, if the damage is intentional, us hosts are not covered for it?
Judging from the many hosts reflecting their bad experiences with the HG claims (not just in this thread, but many many other threads too), it sure looks like that is the case.
@Lizzie Any comments on that part?
I am a fairly new host and reading all the negative comments about deposits and HG, I dread the day I walk into our apartment after check-out and see damages made by our AirBnb guest.
Me and my father put 25000 EUR into the renovation, as well as sweat and blood. We also got a loan to finish up the work and basically a part of what we earn goes for the loan. We started renting our apartment to have some needed extra income. EVERYTHING in the apartment was BRAND NEW (as of Nov-Dec 2016). We have ALL the receives from the purchases and contractors. We work really hard to please our guests. So far we only had good guests and I really hope it stays that way.
So, reading that we could get NOTHING and not even a KIND WORD, just a disconnected call and unanswered e-mails, in case of a bad guest, is making me think if it's even worth being a part of AirBnb any more. I even went and raised our security deposit, even though I know I might not ever see the money if I make a claim, but maybe it will really scare the good-for-nothing guests away.
So, @Lizzie and everyone else on higher positions at AirBnb, why are you favouring guests so much and looking down on hosts? Are we that expendable? Use and throw away? "Customers are always right" as guests, but guess what - us hosts are your customers too, we also give you money and we even MAKE money for you. Without us you are basically worthless.
So my comment on your question, what you could do better in Host Guarantee: