PLEASE HELP! AirBnb Ridiculous Extenuating Circumstance Policy - Super Host Here - FRAUD!

Eric-and-Brooke0
Level 4
Saint Petersburg, FL

PLEASE HELP! AirBnb Ridiculous Extenuating Circumstance Policy - Super Host Here - FRAUD!

Hey everyone!  We are trying to reach out to other hosts to help us with a situation we are currently dealing with.  We are Super Hosts and have a strict cancellation policy in place due to several instances in the past where guests have canceled last minute and we were not able to re-book those dates.  We are consistently 95% booked all year round, hence the strict cancellation policy.  We had a guest book $1450 worth of dates but then cancel well beyond our strict cancellation window.  The guest was refunded half of the reservation per our strict cancelation policy.  He then reached out to me asking for a full refund.  I told him that I would consider this request IF we were able to re-book those dates with other guests.  The dates that he originally booked were the only open dates over a 3 month span and we were not able to re-book due to it being a last minute cancellation. So instead of being out $1450, we were out $725.  The guest still requested we give him the remaining refund because he had to cancel this reservation because a continuous education class he was going to attend was cancelled.  I appologized to the guest, but told him that I think it is fair that we split the difference because I was unable to book these dates, and was still ultimately losing money because of his cancellation.  The guest then escalated the case to Airbnb.  

 

I received a phone call almost 2 months after this reservation from an Airbnb representative stating the guest is still requesting the full refund.  I stated that this was almost 2 months ago and had no idea this was even still an issue because 1.) the guest agreed that a full refund would be considered if I booked those dates, 2.) I was protected by the strict cancellation policy, and 3.) the amount of time that has passed.  The representative (Hazzle) was extremely RUDE, unprofessional, arguementative, and tried to coerce me into refunding the guest throughout the entire conversation.  She was trying to put words into my mouth the entire conversation and was using intimadation techniques stating that it is our obligation to refund the guest and repeating that a "real" super host would "do the right thing and issue the refund."  Rather than trying to understand our point of view and hear both sides of the story, she was one sided the entire conversation even though we are the SUPER HOSTS and this guest had 0 reviews.  Why would she only be concerned with making the guest happy and not a host that has been a super host for over a year?!  I thought splitting the difference 50/50 was more than fair instead of 100% in either direction.  I told her that I was willing to work with the guest even though I did not technically  have to IF we booked those dates.  She continued to put pressure on me throughout the conversation but ulitmately told me it was up to me, but that she had confidence that I would make the "right" decsision and do the "right" thing, as any other super host would. 

 

A couple of weeks later I get an EMAIL stating that Airbnb had ruled in the guest's favor and issued the guest a full refund.  I immediately responded asking Hazzle for an explanation, and she replied via email that the guest provided appropriate paperwork that fell into the extenuating circumstances clause (which supercedes the strict cancellation policy).  This was the same documentation that was submitted weeks ago when the orignal case was open at the same time I spoke with her over the phone, and she did not mention anything at that time about the documentation qualifying for the extenuating circumstances clasue. Furthermore, the document provided by the guest was simply a generic letter stating the employer canceled the continous classes and apologizing for any inconveninces this may have caused the employees.  The employer in this case is the Canadian government and the guest was traveling to Florida for the class.  I immediately replied to Hazzle's response asking her to please call me to discuss the situation over the phone and at least offer me an explanation of why she felt it qualified as an exenuating circumstance.  She replied that she is disengaging from this email chain and refused to call me stating that the decision was already made and was now irreversible.  I replied back immediately asking her one more time to please give me a call and that it is extremely unprofessional to just make a decision via email and not honor my request to speak with her over the phone regarding the matter.  I called the Airbnb superhost hotline right away requesting to speak to a manager/supervisor and was told nobody was around and that someone would call me back.  Fast forward 5 days later and 3 call backs by me and I can not get a supervisor to even call me back.  Keep in mind that the government paid for the guest's trip and the trip that he had to re-book at a later date so the guest was NEVER out of pocket for anything.  The money that he received as a refund from this booking went directly into his pocket and then booked other dates at a future time that the government paid for.  So the guest personally profited $1450 and we are out $1450.  

 

I am absolutely appalled that this is how Airbnb is treating Super hosts, or any hosts for that matter.  Why do we have cancellation policies?  Why do we bother doing everything we can to go above and beyond for our guests and earn super host status when this company does not have our back?  Why should someone that is employed by the government have special privileges and our cancelation polices do not apply to them.  Does this mean I should never accept a government employee's reservation since they are above the law?  Now, I feel as though their inadequate system is encouraging discrimination, which goes against my personal beliefs and the mission statement Airbnb has clearly laid out to all hosts across the world. It is not fair that government employees and military personnel get this special treatment. If I booked an Airbnb with a strict cancellation policy for a work conference in California for my job but I cancel a few days before because of a work conflict, would this too fall under their extenuating circumstances policy (if I was able to provide documentation stating that my employer changed the travel dates)? Or did this guest receive preferential treatment because he happend to be a government/military employee? I've read through the extenuating circumstances policy and the list of reasons that qualify does not include anything about work conflicts. The types of circumstances that they outline in the written policy and deem valid include (and are limited to): -Unexpected death or serious illness of a host, guest, or immediate family member, -Serious injury that directly restricts a guest's ability to travel, - Significant natural disasters or severe weather incidents impacting the location of destination or location of departure, -Urgent travel restrictions or severe security advisories issued after the time of booking, by an appropriate nation or internation authority, -Endemic disease declared by a credible national or internation authority, -Severe property damage or unforseen maintenance issues that directly impact the ability to host safely, -Government-mandated obligations issued after the time of booking (ex: jury duty).

 

We rely on this income to help pay our mortgage and it is absurd that AirBnb would do this to a host that has represented their company in a very professional and positive manner.  I apologize for the lengthly post and we really appreciate any help or insight from other hosts.  I am not going to give up until this matter is resolved.  Thank you!

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hi, does any body know what all the gibberish air bnb sent me about updating policies means? it's very long and complicated and i am very old. can any body help me?

Karen440
Level 2
Boise, ID

Why doesn't Airbnb offer trip insurance like VRBO? Whenever I book a big vacation - for $50 you get peace of mind that if you have to cancel, for whatever reason, you can get reimbursed. Maybe the host then could require that guests purchase this insurance thru Airbnb???

Jay47
Level 3
Tennessee, United States

I've found that in free enterprise a business that "requires" a customer to do something usually winds up in bankrupcty court, fairly quickly.  My post is about Airbnb placing unneeded, inaccurate negative reviews for something I had no control over. 

Or really they just a disclaimer and a check-box that shows guests have read and agreed to the disclaimer before booking:

 

"We encourage you to buy travel insurance.  Please carefully review the Host's cancellation policy.  Under no circumstances can Airbnb override the Host's cancellation policy."

 

Then if the guest checks this box, books the place, it's all on them.  If they buy some travel insurance that's their choice, if they don't, then it's their risk.  That's it.  That's how it should be.

 

AirBnB are aware of their Customer Service issue, has been mnetioned that it is something they want to approve.

 

The issue of Extenuating Circumstances is also well known, if they wanted to change it they have had plenty of time to do so.

 

Leaving such a subjective issue to low level staff obviously couses issues, seems somewhat masochistic.

 

Extenuating Circumstances is much broader than any cover provided by Travel Insurance.

David

You are so right, Sheila.

Great idea!

@Eric-and-Brooke0   I'm amazed that people do not take out travel insurance it costs next to nothing, most credit cards will add it for cents a day for trip cancellation, trip delay, baggage loss, accidents, and on and on.  Maybe the insurance companies are not as lax as Airbnb and refuse compensation or maybe the guest makes out on both ends. So many Airbnb policies are ripe for scammers most often at the host's expense.  But irresponsible guest, scammer, or fill in the blank,  Airbnb should not be in the business of returning guests payments for any circumstance, extenuating or not and especially not in violation of the hosts cancellation policy, the parameters of which Airbnb decided.  The guest should have insurance - yet another lucrative sideline for Airbnb I'm surprised it is not yet available as an add-on.   btw: Airbnb Twitter seems to be the go-to place to get an equitable and considered decision and even a reversal on a ruling.

David126
Level 10
Como, CO

No Insurer would underwrite AirBnB's Extenuating Circumstances policy.

 

Travel Insurance is reasonably common for those travelling Internationally, less so domestically.

David

i also found out before i joined air bnb that we had a lot of grandmother fall down stairs and parets who had surgery, a stroke and dogs that got run over etc etc etc etc    jon

Akshayraj0
Level 2
Ashburn, VA

Shame on AirBnb for penalizing the hosts. No guest gets full refund if a hotel booking gets cancelled.. Why then AirBnb is working against middle class people..

Jay47
Level 3
Tennessee, United States

Whoa there Akshayra!  In my situation the cancellations were not the guests' fault, nor were they my fault.  Of course the guests should have gotten their money back (including any Airbnb fees) they paid.  This discussion is about inaccurate, negative reviews and how Airbnb can improve itself.

 

Airbnb should not "auto-post" inaccurate reviews when something unforeseeable and uncontrollable happened to the host.  Airbnb needs to take ALL things into consideration, instead of relying on a standard one size fits all procedure that only looks at part of the picture!  Bad policy!  

 

 

I believe Akshayra is responding to the original post of the guest asking for a 100 percent refund do to an extenuating circumstance instead of getting just the 50 percent refund following the strict cancellation policy.  Airbnb mishandled that case and should have made the host whole.

 

Maura7
Level 2
Saratoga Springs, NY

We use AirBnb for last minute available dates only during peak season, and for off season dates. We block holidays from AirBnB guests. 

 

We do this because of their lax cancellation policy, and specifically the extenuating circumstances policy which has cost us a full week rental with one day notice. If the guest or family member is ill, or if they just say they are, they get a full refund. Not OK by us, guests can buy travel insurance for this, we as hosts cannot. 

 

So, HomeAway, VRBO, Glamping Hub and Flipkey get the majority of our business, and with 5 houses we are booked 80% of the year.  

Stephen129
Level 4
Tampa, FL

Superhost here as well.  AirBnB just unilaterally screwed me with their extenuating circumstances policy, refunding my guest 100% without even messaging me about it.  My guest cancelled 36-hours prior to check-in, and I utilize the moderate cancellation policy, which is extremely liberal, guests can cancel up to 6-days before check-in with no penalty, after that, they are stuck paying the first night and 50% of the remaining nights.  The amount in controversy was minimal, just over $100.  For some reason, AirBnB and guests do not respect contracts and commitments.  What is the point of "empowering" hosts to choose their own cancellation policy, if the policy can be overridden at any time by AirBnB.  Cancellation policies exist to take the guess work out of deciding which guests have legitimate reasons or not, and to prevent discriminatory practices.  I am in the landlord-tenant business, and there is no extenuating circumstances policy.  Tenants are bound by the terms of the contract they agree to, regardless if the have a bad day, get sick, lose a job, etc.  Businesses would fail if contracts were not followed.  If AirBnB wants to refund a guest that violates the cancellation policy, then AirBnB should pay for it, or offer traveller's insurance.  Something needs to be done about this.  AirBnB does not have a product, hosts have the product, and AirBnB needs to make sure both hosts and guests are happy.  Perhaps it's time hosts find a new facilitator?