What I Learned about Insurance - Proper vs Foremost vs AirBNB

Anya-And-Lukas0
Level 2
Massachusetts, United States

What I Learned about Insurance - Proper vs Foremost vs AirBNB

I know that Airbnb offers host  insurance. But I also have read many articles that say that it is not enough. And that your regular home owners insurance will deny your claims because of the “ business activity exclusion ” clause. I think that for minor claims I will trust the Airbnb coverage. But it is the big claims that I am worried about. As someone who has lived through a house fire, and the ridiculous insurance battles that followed, I believe in being “over insured”. Just because you think, “it will never happen to me” doesn’t mean it won’t.

 

When I called to ask my local insurance company about short term rental they confined that I would not be covered under my current policy. They gave me a quote for a new policy from Foremost insurance. But it was quite difficult to get my questions answered from my local agent.

 

I saw that Proper Insurance was recommended on many Airbnb sites and they specialize in home owners insurance for short term rentals. My agent Graham was extremely knowledge and compared his quote with the Foremost insurance quote I had received “apples to apples.” Here are a few things I learned.

 

Proper Insurance offers a commercial policy. The other quote was for a Landlord policy amended for short term rentals. A few of the benefits of commercial policy is:

 

Commercial policy has more liability protection. $1 million vs ½ million.

 

The Liability protection extended beyond the main premises. For example, you provide a kayak with your rental and someone has an accident on the lake. Or a renter brings a dog and they bite a kid at the playground. Or your neighbors house catches fire because your rental house caught fire.

 

Includes Professional and Advertising coverage. DOesn’t sound like something I’d ever need but he gave the example of you or your house manager entering the house when they think renters are gone. They sue you for invasion of privacy.

 

You have Liquor liability. Technically, if you provide alcohol to guests you can get sued if they serve underage people or have an accident. For example, you leave a bottle of wine as welcome gift. Or your previous guests leave a ½ a bottle of vodka they didn’t finish and you don’t remove it. You have provided liquor to guests.

 

There can be a big difference between actual cash value vs replacement value. Most policies will give you cash value for your old couch that was destroyed. Commercial policy gives you replacement value.

 

A commercial policy gives you $25k for backup and sewer claims. Other insurance does not.

 

For an extra $75/mo fee you can get Law and Ordinance Insurance. For example, there are costs to rebuild your older home and bring it “up to current code”. Or some areas have a law that if 50% of house is ruined you have to tear down the whole thing. But most insurance only covers the 50% that was damaged.

 

The policy does not cover you for flood or earthquake. There is some coverages for jewelry but not if the loss if due to “mysterious reasons”. For example, not a specific event or theft. For jewelry and art the agent recommend a separate policy from ART Insurance Now.

 

Based on this I think we will sign up with Proper Insurance. I think it provide better coverage it was even a few dollars LESS expensive.

 

HAS ANYONE ELSE USED PROPER INSURANCE?

 

 THis is the rep I am working with: 

Graham ****

Account Executive

 

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Robin53
Level 4
United States

Curious if anyone has found a company other than Proper.  I am tired of paying $5000 a year for insurance, not to mention all of the constraints that are added to the policy annually.  Help?   

Hi @Robin53 are you still with Proper or did you switch?

Cody96
Level 2
Page, AZ

I have used Proper for the last two years. I haven’t had to file any claims so I can comment on that. I live in a very low cost insurance area so I pay about $1500/year for each of my homes with Proper. However, I’ve been in touch with my former Liberty Mutual agent and they have a STR add-on. That cost will only be $400 for a newly built home and $600 for the other.

 

From what I’ve found so far the difference is the bed bug coverage that Liberty doesn’t provide. I’m sure there are other differences that I’ll look into when I get a formal policy from Liberty. 

I will also be adding an umbrella policy if I go with Liberty. 

My main concern with Proper has been the high rates and increasing premiums. Mine went up $150 to $200 in the first year. Yes, they have more coverage, but do I really need it for the additional cost? 

Jane773
Level 2
Savannah, GA

I've had commercial insurance with Proper since August 2018. Premiums have doubled ... $6700 this year! No claims. I'm there every 10 - 12 weeks for a two week period. I'm looking for quotes and wondering if I need commercial insurance or a homeowners with an umbrella and STVR rider? If you can recommend insurance companies, I'll appreciate it.

Hi there - proper wants to charge me $6400 for you ever find anything else?

Lok83
Level 1
Los Angeles, CA

I’m currently frustrated with Proper. They gave me a quote, I signed all the paperwork, cancelled my other homeowners insurance, and then Proper came back to me with a higher cost of like 1k. They said my place was in wild fire area which it is not. It’s in the middle of the city!  I know because I bought this place knowing that!  Super pissed at their shady business practices.