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Hello everyone! I have a unit in Newport City, Philippines. I am looking for a co host to help me manage it while I’m away. J...
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Dear Fellow AirBnb Hosts,
I am writing to see if any of you have had a similarly frustrating and disappointing experience to ours. My partner and I have been renting on AirBnB for almost three years. We've had 99% good experiences, and have always felt reassured by AirBnB's "million dollar insurance for hosts," which comes as a part of being a host. We thought, hey, if any one of these virtual strangers that we meet through the internet robs us blind, we're covered! No worries.
We were dismayed to learn that this insurance plan is essentially a hollow falsehood.
We had a guest stay with us who smoked so much marijuana he ruined the carpet my imbedding an odor that did not dissipate even after professional cleaning and washing the walls. The carpet cleaners said if the smell doesn't go away, we would have to replace the carpet pad and subsequently the carpet. I called Home Depot and got a quote for this, which was around $700.
The next step was submitting a claim through AirBnB.
The first surprise there was -- you cannot submit a claim directly to AirBnB, you have to request this fee from the person who rented. So we requested this money from the renter, whose son was the guest in the room. That renter referred us to our son, who we learned after the fact is mentally unstable, and took this request of funds as a personal offense. He called and left threatening voice messages, wrote a series of angry emails and incessantly texted me at work. He threatened to report my partner to the police for crimes he did not committ, and sent so many insane messages that I ended up filing a police report for harrassment. Not only was that extremely stressful, he also managed to lose two of our house keys, so we became extremely stressed that he would return and gain access to our house.
I called AirBnB and filed a report of the harassment, and took their advice, which was to file a report to the police. AirBnB does not allow you to get them involved in the claim until 72 hours have passed, even if you feel physically unsafe, which I did as soon as possible.
The next surprise was that after you involve them, they do not allow you to submit an insurance claim of any kind, even though I asked them repeatedly to do so. At first, they just said it would be hard to get money out of the guest since there was "no proof" that they committed this damage. I submitted my proof, which was the series of emails and text messages in which the guest admitted to smoking marijuana and offered to pay for the carpet cleaning, but not the replacement.
Then, AirBnB responded with "great news." They were able to get the guest to pay $300 odd dollars. I was glad to hear that, and then asked again how to fill out a claim to have the rest of the cost of the carpet replacement reimbursed by their insurance policy. They then told me that, despite the quote for the fix being $700+ dollars, they thought that "$300" was fair and they would not let me submit a claim nor offer any additional funds.
They did not make any effort to assess the damage, nor the cost of repair, despite the fact that we were threatened repeatedly by the guest, filed several reports, filed a police report, and followed all of their procedures. Oh and, by the way, we never received the $300 they said they retrieved for us, and cannot figure out how to actually get the funds. Great!
My questions are:
Has anyone else tried to submit a claim to AirBnB's "insurance"?
Is this actually a scam that means nothing?
Why did AirBnB express no concern for the fact that the person I hosted through their site was threatening me?
Do you feel safe renting through this website after reading this account?
How long do you think it will be until this becomes a serious legal and safety issue that will eventually threaten the well-being of their billion dollar company?
As you can gather, we are no longer going to be renting through AirBnB, and we hope you seriously consider this account of a series of unforunate events before you continue to rent through them.
Best of luck to you all!
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The Host Guarantee is very restrictive and really there for when there is total destruction, not for damage to a carpet.
The advice is that in addition to a security deposit, you need to have your own insurance cover, which fills the gap between that and the Host Guarantee.
In this case (and I am not defending AirBnB here as it is common in the insurance industry as well) you were offered a solution of a £300 cleaning reimbursement but decided a total replacement was required. Many insurance companies would not cover you for a replacement in this instance. It is possible to get rid of smells including marjiuana from carpet would be the standard response. It would be an uphill battle with any insurance company to get a total replacement in this situation.
Many hosts don't have appropriate addiitonal cover in place and they are leaving themselves exposed. AirBnB should make this much clearer rather than trumpeting about $m cover with their Host Guarantee scheme.
Sorry to hear what you went through..
I am dealing with this now. There needs to be a class action lawsuit. Their site clearly indicates that there is an ample insurance policy covering any damage. Some guests wholly damaged a $4,000 table in my house... after lots of back and forth and negotiating, I also got the "good news" email... they offered me $500 for the table, and $100 for the $700 rug.
What they are doing is false advertising, and very misleading. On their website is an initial page about the insurance that is misleading, saying that property damage will be covered. If you request the actual document, they do not respond. Only AFTER YOU MAKE THE CLAIM and get their insulting offer do they give you a link to their policy which spends pages disclaiming their obligations and cornering you into a waiver of your legal rights.
Arbitration clauses entered into through deception, I do not think will hold up in court. This company's market cap is $84.28 billion. They can definitely afford to activate their insurance to cover the damage.
The sneaky thing in their final supposed policy is that they really only offer to pay for the lesser of a repair, or a replacement, but it is AIRBNB that will determine the replacement - in my case they found some piece of junk on Wayfair on sale and then they used my answer on how long I've had the table as a way to depreciate that value, at their own made up depreciation schedule, in order to get out of paying for my Restoration Hardware table. I plan to fight this hard, and I do not think the arbitration clause keeps me from legal action.
Who wants to file a class action?
Hi @Jessica4231, 👋
As you have commented on an older thread, what do you think of elaborating your concern by starting a new conversation with our members?
This way, we will get to know more about the issue and may be our members can help with some insights into your situation. 🤗
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Alex