A Stove....

[Emiel1]

One of the amenities listed under kitchen is a Stove. I looked up on Internet the definition of a Stove.

But there seems confusion about it : is it a cooking device with or without an oven or can it be both  ?

In my kitchen is a cooking device, supplied by gas with 4 places for a pan.

In Dutch it is called "kookplaat", which Google translates as "Cooker".

On the Dutch Airbnb website the "Stove" amenity  is called a "Fornuis".

But a "Fornuis" is a device for cooking facilities AND and a built in oven underneath.

I am confused.....

[Ann72]

@Huma0  "Pour over coffee" is yet another thing millennials think they've invented.  In the early 80s, when I was in my 20s, my friends and I all embraced the Chemex because it was dorky and therefore somehow purer than all the fancy coffeemakers around.  It was said to make better coffee, too.  A chemist invented it in the 1940s.  Anyway, it's the OG pour over coffee maker.  

At some point it breaks or you have children and get tired of pouring water slowly over coffee grounds and you get an electric coffeemaker that does most of the job for you.  

[Huma0]

@Ann72 

I was told on another thread that pour over coffee was something like a French Press. Does that count, as I have one of those?

My brother has something like what you describe but then he is fanatical about his coffee.

[Ann72]

@Huma0  Even though you pour water over coffee grounds in a French press, a French press is always just called a French press, never a pour over.

The thing about the pour over is the "bloom."  You pour just enough water onto the grounds in the filter to let them "bloom" or swell.  When they stop swelling you pour the rest of the coffee over.  It can seem fetishistic but that step does in fact make the coffee taste better.

I believe it's also become widely known as a pour over because many coffee places have individual pour over filters.  Picture a line of coffee mugs each with its own filter on top having water poured over them and dripping into each mug.  "Pour over."  Very literal.

[Huma0]

@Ann72 

Thanks for the clarification. Better go back and edit those amenities lists AGAIN.

Interestingly, there was no option for caffitiere/French Press, which is what most of my guests use, even though they have other options.

[Ann72]

@Huma0  Most of my guests specifically ask if I have a French press, too!

[Huma0]

@Ann72 

Do they? Mine use it but they don't specifically ask for one. 

I have a very retro looking old school coffee machine (you can just see it there in the corner) and also a large one of the filter/jug kind, but always direct guests to the French press as it's just easier and less messy. I also have instant if they want it.

Honestly, no one has ever complained (except that whiney couple who thought it was dangerous and were very angry that I did not have a stove top espresso maker like they have at home). Most guests are just happy that there is decent coffee and an easy way to make it. The ones who are real purists about their coffee are much more interested in the local coffee shops than the facilities at home.

[Ann72]

@Huma0  Yes, mine ask.  As a purist myself I would always rather make coffee at home than buy it out.  I think these days that would be considered an eccentricity.

I LOVE your photo.  That toaster is everything.  More info please?

Just came across this photo one of my guests sent me this morning, very appropriate moment to share it:

[Huma0]

@Ann72 

Thank you! Actually that photo is completely out of date. The splashback has been tiled, neither that toaster nor that kettle are there anymore as both broke (well, I broke the kettle by causing a mug avalanche) and I don't provide the little Amaretti biscuits because people only ate them if the jar was full. Go figure.

Anyway, the toaster, if you want to search for it, was I believe the De'Longhi Argento model and it lasted a good few years by today's standards.

I now have this kettle and toaster instead and also the matching microwave. They were from a retailer called Dunhelm (not sure if you have that is the US) and came in different colours, but I believe they might be sold out now.

[Debra300]

@Ann72,

As always, I was never in with the hip crowd.  I have never seen or heard of a Chemex.  I probably missed, because it looks like a science project.

For some reason, most of my guests are not coffee drinkers.  I offer a Keurig and a traditional coffee maker with ground coffee/K-cups and condiments, and they barely get used.

[Ann72]

@Debra300  Well I think you're super cool.  And the Chemex was a science project, developed by chemists in the 40s.  I think they were dorking out and making coffee in beakers in the lab...

[Sarah977]

@Ann72 @Huma0  Now why on earth, with all their amenity specifics, would they leave off "French Press" which is one of the common methods of coffee making, and the only one I have. Also, all my guests have said "Oh good, a French Press, my preferred coffee method". 

Or do the Airbnb millenials think French Press coffee is "pour over"?  And really, "pour over" coffee is such a baby-sounding term, isn't it? Add that to all the baby-words that proliferate now- hoodie, onesie, selfie.

[Ann72]

@Sarah977  Haaaa!!!!!  The "baby" everything trend is insane.  Sometimes in the grocery store I stand in front of the produce and say I want GROWN-UP arugula dammit!  🤣

Maybe by only listing pour-over as one of the amenities they mean to include French press in that category.  But not everyone would know that, I think.

[Huma0]

@Sarah977 

You are so right! I can assure you I don't do hoodies, onesies or selfies if I can help it and 'pour over' is a bit of a stupid term. It could refer to any coffee that you pour water over, e.g. instant.

[Emiel1]

@Huma0 @Ann72 @Sarah977 

It see my post about "stove" is now about the making of coffee :>)

I noticed guests coming from countries like Tsjechie, Poland, Bulgaria simple put some ground coffee (not instant coffee) in a mug, "pour over" hot water, stirr and drink.. No equipment needed at all !

[Huma0]

@Emiel1 

Each to their own, but that doesn't sound very nice to me. Gritty coffee?