Does Group = Party?

[Alan1209]

Hi all

It looks like I have been operating under a misapprehension about what a party is. I have searched the site but am just asking for some clarification.

I assumed that "No parties" meant that same-sex groups were not welcome, even if the intent was just a peaceful getaway. It seems though that I was wrong. When a host states "No Parties", they actually mean parties of the loud music, alcohol and debauchery variety.

Obviously, there are many reasons why a same-sex party would not be welcome which is understandable. However, my question is, Do hosts include groups within the 'no parties' restriction?

Thanks for your help

Alan

PS. I'm looking to book for July, it is possible that a booking might not be possible anyway. We are not looking to flaunt any Covid rules.

[Mike-And-Jane0]

@Alan1209 No parties means two things

1) External guests (ie those not on the booking) would not be allowed

2) The guests themselves cannot have a party. 

Clearly the latter is hard to define but loud music would be one definition.

[Emilia42]

@Alan1209 

By your logic, as long as you threw one person of the opposite sex into the mix it would not be a party. 😉

Airbnb has capped all guest counts at 16. No parties mean no unauthorized guests, no unruly behavior (check the house rules,) no disturbing the neighborhood (with loud music, shouting, excess vehicles, etc.) I do not know what your intentions are but you will need to find a host that trusts you. Honesty and thorough communication work well. 

We have no idea where you are from, or where you'll be booking, so do not know if you would be in violation of any Covid rules. Also, July is a long way away. You should check government websites for more information. 

[Sarah977]

@Alan1209  How bizarre that you would think the word "party" has anything to do with the sex of the guests. I'm really curious as to how that interpretation would occur to you.

[Alan1209]

Some clarification

I initially understood party on Airbnb to have the same meaning as group. I should have said group instead of party but slipped into old terminology. 

[Sarah977]

@Alan1209  Thanks for the clarification, but that still doesn't make sense. If something said "No groups" that would be weird, unless a listing only accepted 1 guest or a couple. 

It would have to say "No same-sex groups" in order to have any reference to gender. And that is actually not allowed on Airbnb- it's gender discrimination. The only listings where hosts can specify gender of guests are home-share listings- on those, hosts can specify only guests of the host's own gender if they choose.

[Alan1209]

To be fair I need not have mentioned same-sex groups at all. The fact we are a same-sex group is irrelevant to my question. I just have the bad habit of adding too much extra information.

I think I mentioned it because same-sex groups are associated with Stag and Hen groups, which have a quite justified bad reputation. I think I mentioned it because in the course of my research I came across many mentions of Stag and Hen parties causing damage to property and nuisance to neighbours.

I fully understand that hosts can't actually officially discriminate against gender. However, there are plenty of other reasons not to accept a booking and I fully understand why a host might be concerned when they see that all the guests are the same sex.

Hope that clears things up a little? My writing could be a little more concise.

[Sarah977]

@Alan1209  Yes, I understand what you are saying- the word party has several meanings in English. One means group, as in "There will be 5 people in my party for the dinner reservation".  Another refers to a celebration with several or many people, which could be something as innocent as a children's birthday party with 3 invited children and their parents, to an out-of-control rave with 100 drunken party-goers puking all over the place and blasting loud music.

"No parties", on Airbnb refers to the latter, or guests inviting more people over than are on the booking reservation, for any type of gathering, without the host's permission.

[Alan1209]

Or in my case, "A party of adventurers travelling to a dungeon to loot treasure and fight skeletons."

[Dale711]

@Alan1209 ,

I fully support your point of view!

“ I fully understand that hosts can't actually officially discriminate against gender. However, there are plenty of other reasons not to accept a booking and I fully understand why a host might be concerned when they see that all the guests are the same sex.” 

Few of my listings is Male dormitory shared room or Gays friendly ! Same Sex- Group Welcome!!!