Incompetent Call Centre Help Staff

Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

Incompetent Call Centre Help Staff

I recently undertook a world-first adventure in Korea.

 

However my South Korean Airbnb Host threw out my personal items worth over AU$800. Messages between us show this. This wasn't anything to have to interpret or adjudicate. He admitted to throwing the items out. 

It took 37 days, 3 different case managers, four telephone calls from me, 38 messages from me, and multiple copies of receipts I had to dig out for old gear after returning home, for Airbnb to finally then offer me exactly same amount of money, that they did on Day 1 of this fiasco - $US280.  I'm over $500 out of pocket.

 

I'm grateful I got something back, but I will never get back the wasted time in dealing with such incompetent help desk staff.

 

I used Airbnb in over 11 different countries, for 9 years, but apart from a current booking that I haven't used yet, I won't ever be using them again.

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Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Kell3  I don't understand- he threw your stuff out when you were still in the midst of an active booking? While you were out of the house for awhile? That sounds utterly bizarre. If that's the case, I'd doubt he threw out valuable items like that, he more likely sold them or stashed them away somewhere to sell later. Or was this stuff you inadvertently left behind and he's claiming he threw it out? 

I'm not doubting your story at all, I'm just really curious as to what exactly happened there.

Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

Thanks Sarah, I recently unicycled the length of South Korea.

Before I made the booking with the South Korean host, I asked if I could leave my bike box and suitcase at his place, because it's hard to unicycle a country carrying a suitcase and a box.

He said yes, but also said it would be at my own risk, because the items would have to be left in a small room at the top of the apartment stairwell. He went on to say he had personal items also stored in that location. I said I understood it was at my own risk, as long as the items were undercover, so I wnet ahead and booked his room.

 

I was very clear that I would be returning, after my ride, to collect my items. On the day of checking out, I messaged him to again check that it would be okay to leave my bike box and (locked) suitcase there, and that I would be returning on or around 6 June to collect them. He said that was no problem.

So off I went, unicycling South Korea for 14 days. I left my tent poles for a very expensive tent, some camping gear and waterproof bags in the bike box, thinking no one would likely steal that stuff because you can buy cheap Chinese camping gear in Korea.  My suitcase I locked to an internal pipe, behind a rooftop stairwell door.

Imagine my suprise, when on 4 June, I messaged him to let him know I was returning to Seoul to collect the items I'd left and his message in response was something like "OMG OMG I threw your box out thinking you weren't coming back!"

So rather than the host checking with me, or actually reading the messages I'd previously sent, he assumed I wasn't returning, and 'had cleaners' so he claims, throw out items from my bike box, even though my box and suitcase were still there. He sent me a photo of the empty bike box.

I got to the apartment and magically, some of the packing material (only a small amount), had somehow then turned up in the box. But nothing else. My expensive tentpoles and assorted camping gear (which I was supposed to use for camping for the remainder of my trip!), were gone. I asked him surely the cleaners would have seen that these items were new, and not thrown them out. His response simply was that 'the cleaners couldn't have known'. It was irrelevant what the cleaners did or didn't do. He simply should not have thrown the contents out, should have contacted me or just simply read messages from me where I said I'd be back. Yes, he was doing me a favour storing those items, but I didn't expect the items to be thrown out by him.

The fun then started trying to get Airbnb to be responsive. It took 37 days for them to offer the same amount they'd offered on Day 1. Even after I'd returned to Australia and had to dig through old receipts (which they'd asked for). After me sending them one message a day, calling multiple times, having to explain the situation multiple times to multiple differenet 'help' desk staff. The help desk staff are grossly incompetent and all they can do is follow poor scripting that gives verbal assurance, with no action.

I was a loyal Airbnb customer for almost a decade. Their gross incompetence in mishandling this has made me not want to ever use them again.

Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

I missed telling the part where he instructed cleaners, to clean out my box. The items were taken from my box, at his instruction.

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Kell3  Thanks for the explanation. Wow, I can't tell you how impressed I am that you unicycled South Korea, or anywhere, for that matter. And no offense, but you don't look like some 20 year old, either, so even more impressive.

What a distressing story and what a strange thing for a host to do, considering that you'd been really clear with him about your plans, and re-iterated and he agreed to it. I guess that's the risk we take whenever we leave our belongings somewhere- it could have been a guest house that you found elsewhere, not on Airbnb or another booking platform, really. I have a friend who took a 4 hour bus trip and when she arrived at the other end, her new expensive backpack, complete with her quality camera, and other valuable stuff, had somehow disappeared from the luggage compartment under the bus. Someone must have taken it at one of the stops when the compartment was opened. The bus company did give her some compensation, but nothing near what it all was worth.

Yes, Airbnb CS has been getting worse and worse. Sometimes people get acceptable resolutions, it seems to be hit or miss depending on what rep you happen to be dealing with, but all in all, their responses seem to be getting more and more robotic and unacceptable. And I assume you mentioned at some point that you've been using Airbnb for 9 years and that if they don't make a better offer they've lost you as a guest?

I'm really sorry this happened to you.

Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

Lol. Thanks Sarah, I'm 50. So it was a significant achievement indeed.

 

I completely understand that leaving my gear was a risk. And if someone unknown had taken the items, I'd have no complaint whatsoever.

 

But when it was the host himself who threw the items out, when I'd been super clear about collecting the items, that wasn't okay.

 

The more disappointing aspect was just the bumbling incompetence from the 'help desk' case managers. I mentioned to them multiple times that I have used Airbnb for almost a decade, that I've stayed in Airbnb at over 11 different countries. They didn't care at all. I even sent video feedback at the end about my situation, and heard nothing more from them.

 

Thanks for your apology, but Airbnb haven't offered any so after I use a last remaining booking, I won't be using them ever again, nor will I be encouraging anyone else I know to use them.

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Kell3  Yes, it's quite astounding that they don't seem to be the least concerned with their reputation. Altho I have read posts here where when users threatened to go to the media with their story, saying they had friends who were journalists who would love write and publish how Airbnb was dealing (not dealing) with their case, their tune changed. They seem to have gotten too big for their britches, just assuming there will be new hosts and guests to replace the ones that leave the platform in disgust.

Helen427
Level 10
Auckland, New Zealand

Welcome to CC @Kell3

Good on you for your travel in the way you have throughout South Korea.

The Korean's I've meet have generally been very kind people.

In fact there's a couple who contribute in here from time to time @Jessica-and-Henry0  who I'm sure  will be disheartened you have been through the unfortunate situation you have from one of there own.

Please msg @Laura_C  who pops in here who is Head of Customer Services as it's important for her to know where there's room for improvement with the staff she overseas.

If you click on her name you can msg her that way.

If she's not made aware of instances like this she's not to know who has perhaps not been doing there job to the required standards.

All the best

 

 

Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

Thanks Helen.

I too found that Korean people were generally very kind. I had someone pull up one day and just give me a cold bottle of water while I was riding.

My host wasn't unkind. He just accidentally threw my stuff out. Understandably stuff happens on overseas trips. I can roll with most punches okay, that's the fun part of travel, right :).

 

I've contacted @Laura_C thanks for passing her details on. Much appreciated.

Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

Hi Helen, thanks for the @Laura_C contact details, but there's been no response from that contact, either

Hi there @Kell3,

 

I've just dropped you a note, thanks for your patience!

 

Thanks

~Laura

 

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Kell3
Level 2
Canberra, Australia

Hi @Laura_C , there's no note that has come through on here or on the Airbnb site itself. Thank you 🙂

 

@Kell3  Did you check up at the top of the page on the little envelope symbol? That's where you'd receive a private message.