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Does the Airbnb review model create a “hostage” situation whereby guests actually decide against making any requests of the host (not demands) in fear of retribution by the host - i.e host does not recognize guest requests as a legitimate right and in turn writes a negative public review of said guest.
As as host, I am diligent in limiting my reviews to the key areas: Communication, Following House Rules, and Cleanliness. Even if I sense a slight conflict for any reason at all, I have never allowed my public review of a guest to attack their profile and leave damaging images. I try to be professional in this case.
This thread is about those unpleasant “subjective” reviews by Hosts who choose to leave damaging remarks on their public review instead of leaving a private comment. I guess that is the choice we have as Hosts.
I am trying to present a situation in the most neutral and objective terms without judgement if possible. This comment has been edited and edited to remove bias. I apologize for repetition.
But often times we find Hosts asking other Hosts how they should review a guest who may have had issues outside of the key areas of communication, cleanliness and behavior.
Sometimes the reviews may be subjective due to obvious personal differences. The majority of these issues tend to arise when the host resides on same premise as guest, where personalities, languages , age, and culture closely interact and can conflict.
In many situations hosts may not like or agree with guests opinions or behavior for example. However, should guests be given negative review because they made a request , asked for an item?
As a solo traveler, I rented a bedroom with a shared bath in a home recently. I misunderstood some of the amenities offered . I thought about it, should I ask for these items or should I stay quiet and not risk any repercussions. I thought about the guests I host in my home… those whom I ask on a daily basis, is there anything you need? I would not want them to think twice about asking me for what I feel are basic items. I felt I had a right to just ask and not be silenced but actually had not clue that my requests would be reviewed so negatively. My mistake or my hypothesis is tested?
The temperature in the house was quite warm at night but the individual bedrooms had air-conditioning. After a long day, I enjoyed the AC . I was working on coursework with books and found it hard to do this in the area of the house without AC. In the bedroom, there were two single beds with tiny wall shelves and a lightbulb hanging from the ceiling. There was no chair. No small table for books or laptop. The shared bath did not have a hairdryer. The only mirror was in the small shared bathrooms. I also had wanted to unpack my suitcase so I just spread on the floor. Not one shelf in the closet was available. The closet space was for hanging clothes on hangers.
But I can do this.. long time world traveler been there and done this for 55 years. But, knowing how cheap things sell for in this country , I made the mistake of asking if the host had a mirror? Hair dryer? chair? Small table? I just asked and also actually tried to explain how having a mirrors in the 2 bedrooms would free up the shared bathrooms when just a mirror was needed. Mirrors were cheap. If I had been staying longer, I would have purchased these items myself and left them in the room. However, I was only there for 2 days.
I accept that the Airbnb review systems stands.. no review once posted can be edited or withdrawn so I will not attempt any discussion here. When you get burned by the system , then you really understand . However, I refuse to get into personal attacks or air any disagreements publicly. I feel like I should respond in some way to the way I was characterized. I never dreamed this would happen. I left the Host a 5 Star review.. and mentioned things such as the location and the additional information available as the pluses without getting into the drama.
Not asking what would you do, but should Hosts punish guests for making requests. And if and when you have been a guest, what happened? I ignorantly thought I was making good suggestions for future guests.. I had no idea.
P.S. The Host was not the owner of the home on Airbnb. . She was renting the home and then subletting to Airbnb Guests . In not owning the home, perhaps there is less investment and less accomodation.
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@Elizabeth610 I have read other posts on the forum where hosts have said that they were excited to have other hosts book with them, only to have the guest/host constantly criticizing the place and offering suggestions as to what could be done better. Not everyone appreciates what the one giving it considers to be constructive criticism.
Of course the place you stayed sounds like it could have used more thought in basic amenities. But I assume there were photos you looked at before booking. Was there a chair in the room? A mirror? A small table for books? If these were in the photos but not when you arrived, the listing is inaccurate. If those things were not pictured or mentioned, and you booked anyway, it does seem to me a bit demanding to be asking for things not promised. If these things are important to you, I'd have asked before booking. It's one thing to ask if it would be possible to borrow a chair, but asking about a whole raft of things, I could see would be annoying to the host. As would be offering unsolicited suggestions as to what the host should be providing for their guests. That would best be done in private feedback to the host after your stay, not verbally during the stay, IMO.
FYI I don't consider a hairdryer to be some basic amenity. I've never used one in my life, I raised three daughters and there was no hairdryer in our house. They also suck a lot of electricity.
I do think you're probably right- that home owners who do STRs are probably more attentive to details and guest comfort than those who are hosting a space they themselves are renting.
@Elizabeth610, we are in the home sharing business. So we are suggesting our guests what we have and what we want to share. If everything is clear in the description demands of something else gives not good feeling.
I think that we will hardly start with our recommendations in the houses of our friends, so why to do it in the private home of unknown person?
@Elizabeth610 I think there is a line between as you say suggesting things that would have helped your stay better and as @Sarah977 says being critical about things that were never a part of the listing. I had a lady stay who rated me 5stars but in personal comments said my pillows were too firm it did make me go and get two pillows that were not so firm to be able to accommodate everyone. But I have had guests asking for things that are not included on my listing and it does make you feel under a bit of pressure to provide something you haven't even offered.
@Elizabeth610 I'm one of those hosts who have had a bad time hosting other hosts. I think that for me, the biggest problem has been that they seem to have their own ideas of how things should be done, and they are not afraid to comment and rate you down when it doesn't match their expectations, even if the property DOES match what was presented in the listing. I don't mind suggestions for improvements, but it becomes bothersome when it's demands for changes during the stay or a poor review.
In your case, based on what the host had to say in their review of you, you got what was described in the listing and you asked for changes during the stay. I agree with @Mandy81 : it's stressful when people ask you for things that aren't in the listing. It makes you feel like if you don't provide them, you will end up with a poor rating.
Personally, I would just chalk it up to experience: it's not going to affect your ratings as a host. Maybe try and empathize with your hosts and put yourself in their place: how would you feel if someone came to stay in your listing and asked for a bunch of changes? How would you review yourself if you were in her shoes?