Hi Airbnb Support,I’m a host who rents my home as a mid-term...
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Hi Airbnb Support,I’m a host who rents my home as a mid-term rental (MTR), meaning I prefer bookings of at least 30 days and ...
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Hey everyone,
It's been awhile since I was last on the community, and so forgive me for that. However, in the past couple of days, we have been dealing with a very unusual request and we're not sure how to handle it, and so I was hoping that someone here might have some good advice.
We've been hosting on Airbnb for about 5.5 years and have been Superhosts for most of that time. Since the very early days, we have had our listing set up so that only guests with previous Airbnb booking experience, good reviews from past hosts and verified identities could book with us.
Naturally, in that time, we have had some requests from guests with no prior booking experience, and except for ones who seemed like obvious scammers, we generally allowed the bookings after asking a few questions to the potential guests. After all, guests need to start somewhere, and so far, we have never had a single problem with doing that.
Two nights ago, however, we received a request from a first-time guest for a rental of over 5 weeks in late December-early January, which is low season in Portugal, where we rent. The booking would be a lucrative one if we approved it. We would probably make more from this one booking than we generally make from all bookings from November-February, as that is the lowest rental period of the year. The guest had also verified her identify on Airbnb and was very friendly in her correspondence, and she didn't sound at all like any of the scammers with no Airbnb booking history who had clearly been trying to con us in the past.
Here's the problem: seconds after this booking request came in, we received a WhatsApp message with a Singapore area code saying that "X wants to book with you on Airbnb" and with a supposed Airbnb link to click on. As we have never linked our Airbnb account to WhatsApp, this immediately struck us as odd. Then, moments later, we received an "ADA Notification" on WhatsApp with the same message, and also with a weblink to click on that had "airbnb" in the wording.
These ADA Notifications kept coming, but of course, we didn't dare click on the weblink. Rather, to maintain our Superhost status, we sent a brief message to the guest letting them know that we would get back to them, and then we called Airbnb customer support. And while the woman we spoke with was friendly enough, she wasn't particularly helpful, as she didn't seem to know what to do. So she asked us to send her the screenshots of the messages and said that someone would get back to us.
We didn't hear anything the rest of the evening (we live in Hong Kong), and when we woke up this morning, there were some headaches with customer service that I won't bore you with. Long story. However, we did receive one helpful customer support message advising us to block the WhatsApp numbers. (We had already done so.) That person also told us that we could either decline the request or let it expire, and so we chose the latter route. We also tried to report and block the account, but for whatever reason, Airbnb did not respond to this request by blocking the guest.
So, last night, we called them again, and this time we got a more helpful agent. He promised to follow up on it and helped us figure out how to unblock the dates that had been blocked after we let the booking request expire, and then he forwarded the case to another agent, who left us some very detailed messages overnight and replied to our responses right away when we texted back this morning.
Now, here's the other problem: Airbnb says that it takes them a few days to investigate a suspicious account before they can block it--and then today, that same guest put in another booking request, for the same dates and with the same amount of money. This time, she was also adding long notes explaining who they were, what they do for a living, why they want to book for so long, etc.
Fellow hosts, the notes all sound like a genuine person talking. We don't get "scammer" from reading them, and we also understand that if we approve this booking, these guests will have to tie up a very large amount of money with Airbnb, as the platform will charge them straight away.
However, we cannot get our heads around these WhatsApp messages. We have never had this happen before, and those weblinks that were in the messages were highly suspicious.
Has anyone out there ever experienced this? If so, do you have any experience-based advice that you can pass on to us--and if not, what would you do if you were in our place?
Any suggestions, advice or warnings you could give us would be very, very appreciated. Thank you all for reading through my long message.
I have not had this type of request, but it's possible that the guest may have no intention of paying the large fee for the long stay. Their intention seems to be to get you to go off platform. I would simply say that I unfortunately cannot communicate off platform and send the following link:
Paying and communicating through Airbnb - Airbnb Help Center
It's possible that you may not hear from them again.
Thanks for that, Shelley. Just to clarify, the guests themselves did not try to contact us on WhatsApp. Rather, we were getting automated messages to our WhatsApp account, first from a Singapore number and then from this ADA notifications thing, saying that "X wants to book your property" and with links in the messages.
It is the links that have worried us. In my experience, any message from an anonymous party with a link in it is a message that you should be very concerned about--and we were, and are.
So, the guest was not asking us to operate outside of Airbnb or anything like that. We have had that happen in the past and we flagged those requests immediately to Airbnb. However, as @Helen3 and you have both mentioned below, it is quite possible that this is something new that Airbnb is trying out and that they haven't bothered to update either their hosts or their customer support staff. If you read further in the thread of responses below, you'll see that @Ruth413 has also been experiencing this.
Thanks again for your feedback. It is very helpful.
I believe Airbnb are trialling out bookings coming through on what's app too / but I haven't received anything as yet this way @Rich-and-Yan0
If you have asked your normal vetting questions and are happy with the answers and it's not one person booking for a much larger property I would consider it .
I wasn't aware that Airbnb was trying out a WhatsApp system. If this is so, it could explain the situation (and it would be a nice feature!). There's a local platform in my country that does send booking requests and instant book notifications via Whatsapp, so it's entirely possible that Airbnb could also start doing this.
actually having read up a bit more I am not sure I am correct on this @Shelley159 @Rich-and-Yan0
Thank you as well, Helen, for your comments and suggestions. We are also not sure if you are correct or not, but as I was just mentioning above to @Shelley159, it may very well be something that Airbnb is testing out that they have not bothered to update either us or their customer support staff about. Again, if you read further through the thread of responses below, you will also see that @Ruth413 has been experiencing the same thing in the past few days.
If that is the case, however, Airbnb need to do something about putting links in the messages, as that will definitely be fodder for scammers in the future to prey on vulnerable hosts--especially less experienced ones who are still navigating their way through the platform. They should also be filling us, and their staff, in on their new policy so that we are not blindsided like this.
Cheers. We really appreciate your feedback and your taking the time to respond.
@Rich-and-Yan0 I have had a few of these over the past 48 hours (in the U.K). Like you I was totally confused. I did notice though that I wasn’t getting the text notifications, just the Airbnb and WhatsApp ones.
I didn’t click on any of the links and just went through the normal Airbnb app route which the booking requests did appear on and seemed normal requests with messages and I have accepted all the bookings and got nice and normal responses.
I must admit these are STR’s not long term guests. I am presuming that Airbnb has started a new system that includes WhatsApp notifications and as per normal hasn’t updated hosts yet.
I did google it as I was concerned, but there was only 1 mention of ADA and Airbnb and that was someone asking a similar question as you. I didn’t contact customer services as from past experience I am sure they are not updated on these things. I also checked my notification settings and there is nothing there that mentions WhatsApp.
So, I think and I hope this is a new system that nobody has been notified about yet and there is nothing more sinister than that.
Hope this helps
Ruth
Thanks so much, Ruth, for your response. It's good to know that we are not the only ones who have been experiencing this and that other hosts have been equally confused by these new developments.
And yes, like you, we could find nothing on Google about these bloody "ADA Notifications." They were coming in so frequently that we finally blocked them on WhatsApp, as I mentioned in my original post. If this is the new policy of Airbnb, they are certainly introducing it in a very awkward way.
Given what you and the others have said, I think that we are going to go ahead and approve the guest. As @Shelley159 has mentioned above, there is a local platform in South Africa that is sending out booking messages through WhatsApp, and @Helen3 has likewise speculated that this may very well be something new that Airbnb is trying out.
So we'll approve the booking. If things change and these guests try to get us to do business outside of the Airbnb platform or anything like that, THEN we will be suspicious and will notify Airbnb about what is going on. However, as nothing like that has happened so far, I think we can safely proceed with the booking and see what happens.
Thank you again. Your comments have been invaluable, especially as this has been happening to you as well, and we really appreciate your sending them to us.
Good outcome - this means you've received a great (and genuine) booking @Rich-and-Yan0! And thank you that we now know what to expect when the messages come our way.
As you say, it's a problem that Support isn't updated on this - it may cause some confusion over the next few weeks (and possibly longer, depending on how it's rolled out around the world).
Thank you, @Shelley159, for another thoughtful response. And you're right, it really is a problem that the support people don't know anything about this. We spoke with two different agents and texted with two others--four in total--and none of them knew anything about this, and they all had their own takes on it that were clearly based on opinion rather than knowledge of policy.
But anyway, when we approved these guests, we saw that they have a full profile filled out, complete with photo, email address, phone number, languages, place of residence, all of that. If this is a scammer, they certainly aren't acting like any of the ones we've ever had to deal with in the past.
Thanks once again for the feedback. It means a lot.
Thanks for posting @Ruth413 , now we all know what to expect. Your approach was great, to ignore the link while you were unsure and go to the app to approve from there. Now that we know this is how bookings come through, the Whatsapp notifications will be very useful.
We got one of these this morning on a booking made several days ago. We are testing a new channel manager (the upgraded version of Tokeet) and thought it came from there but I've been through that with a fine tooth comb but we haven't even subscribed to their whatsapp/sms service yet.
Thank you as well, @Michelle4503, for your thoughts on, and experience with, this new issue. Since we are now seeing multiple hosts going through the same thing, it definitely seems to be "a thing" now with Airbnb. But here again, you would think that they would consider letting us--and their support staff--know about this so that we could be prepared for it and not be thinking that we are being scammed.
If anything further happens with this new booking manner on your end, be sure to keep us updated. We will do the same for you. Thanks again!