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Hi everyone,I’m reaching out here in hopes of getting advice from the experts who’ve dealt with biased reviews. Recently, I h...
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I had a guest who wanted to book a 28 day stay. I recommended they book a 31 day stay to avoid $450 transient tax for short term stays and that I’ll refund them the two days or the rent I receive. This is because they shared how they are a student and how expensive finding a room was. I would lose two days of revenue but the guest fee will be almost 10% lower. And they will also qualify for my monthly discount, rich meant I lost a bit more but I was trying to help. I now feel like a loser though.
The guest arrived and sent pics of cabinet door that was hanging loose as well as blinds with two damaged panels. These are standard apartment blinds with 40 or more panels. They also called out there was no ice in the fridge. I offered to send someone immediately to take care of the issues, but they said they are not comfortable with any repair personnel entering the house when they were there and these were minor issues they didn’t need fixed. A couple of days later, they said the dishwasher wasn’t working. I ordered a new one for installation in two days (fastest Home Depot wool delivery) and told them that I will be there the entire duration it will be replaced and they do not need to be in the home or they could stay inside the bedroom the whole time it will be replaced and not even come out. They messaged the next day that the dishwasher was working fine and I could cancel the installation, which I did. I checked in with them in a week on how things were going and they said things were fine. They checked out on the 28th day (a day earlier than I thought they were going to checkout). I asked if everything was fine, and they sent a list of complaints they included the issues they brought up and did not want a handyman over to fix. They also complained about DE (Diatomaceous Earth) which we had sprayed to keep ants from entering the property as the weather had started cooling down. We had specifically asked the cleaners not to vacuum it away as we would have to apply it again. They also pointed to a one inch scuff on the table and a scratch on the TV stand, both of which are less than 2 inch diameter. They also said the bed frame was broken, and sent a picture of them standing on the mattress with their toes together, at the headboard. And yes, when we checked, the bed frame had a single broken slat exactly where they are standing on the mattress. I suspect they accidentally jumped on the bed and broke the frame. Still puzzled they actually sent a pic of themselves breaking the frame.They also took picture of two fence panel in the side yard that had come loose and said that there were cats wandering the yard at times and said the property was not secure for their pet. They provided these pics and claimed the place was not clean nor did it meet their expectation.
Since it seemed like a volume of complaints,
I immediately filed a support ticket and asked AirBnb to review the photos and their complaint, and ask for recommended action. The support person said they could be eligible to upto 30% of their payment if this is a host cleanliness issue. I called out that we offered to fix issues as soon as they were called out but this was the first we were hearing about any of them except the blinds and icemaker. The AirBnb support said that the complaint was not made within 72 hours of them discovering the issues and that I wouldn’t be subject to the 30% refund for lack of host cleanliness but that I should repair the fence and add notes to my description about the neighborhood cats. I offered to refund two additional days to them cos it appeared that they were checking out a day or two earlier than they had planned. We inspected the property, fixed the fence panels immediately, vaccuned up the DE and also had the cabinet door and blinds replaced. That is when we discovered the broken bed frame. I told the support person about the broken bed frame and additional blinds their pet seems to have pulled off from the patio door, and called out that if this case was closed, then I will bear these costs as ongoing wear and tear rather than charge the guest. The support person said most of these seem minor issues, and they were not made known to me 72 hours within discovery, as expected by Airbnb policy. I had addressed the issues I was made aware of as soon as I could, and that they will make a note Guest complainted asking for more refund or made a negative review.
fast forward two days and the guest filed a complaint, and the support person they talked to made a call to refund 30%. I ask them to review the previous Support case. I got an email saying my appeal of Airbnb resolution on the issue was denied. I’m just stunned. The volume of issues bothered be too, but they didnt bring up till after they moved out, giving me no opportunity to fix. Is anyone else going through this?
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It appears you did all that you could do for this situation, being proactive to address issues with Airbnb customer service and offering to fix any issues brought up. It seems the person was dead set on getting a refund because they know about the potential of getting a refund if there is an issue. It is disheartening to see guests or hosts who play the system to get reimbursement for issues/damages.
I would have offered to have the guest leave immediately if there were so many issues upon check in. If everything was noted on the Airbnb platform then customer service should not have gone against the initial recommendation either. But sometimes it appears they want to appease the guest at the expense of the hosts. Airbnb needs both hosts and guests to succeed and something needs to be done to address situations like yours.
@Paula @Quincy @Rebecca @Elisa is there any committee looking into guests who purposely work the system via complaints and or hosts who claim false damage reports against guests? It seems like it is becoming more commonplace and it’s breaking the trust in the experience of booking on Airbnb for a good guest or host experience.
It appears you did all that you could do for this situation, being proactive to address issues with Airbnb customer service and offering to fix any issues brought up. It seems the person was dead set on getting a refund because they know about the potential of getting a refund if there is an issue. It is disheartening to see guests or hosts who play the system to get reimbursement for issues/damages.
I would have offered to have the guest leave immediately if there were so many issues upon check in. If everything was noted on the Airbnb platform then customer service should not have gone against the initial recommendation either. But sometimes it appears they want to appease the guest at the expense of the hosts. Airbnb needs both hosts and guests to succeed and something needs to be done to address situations like yours.
@Paula @Quincy @Rebecca @Elisa is there any committee looking into guests who purposely work the system via complaints and or hosts who claim false damage reports against guests? It seems like it is becoming more commonplace and it’s breaking the trust in the experience of booking on Airbnb for a good guest or host experience.
Thank you for the reply. It is heartening to see that there might be folks that can do something about such behavior in the future. I feel very vulnerable as a host when the resolution does not appear fair, and no acknowledgement of potential misstatements by the guest. If the guest had brought up the issues on moving in, I would have offered them immediate fixes or the option to move out. I did fix all issues (broken blind panels and fence panels, replaced bed frame) within 24 hours of their complaint, but since they complained only after they stayed the entire month, I had no opportunity to fix these during their stay and I lost a lot of income from
the 30% reimbursement.My friend was telling me that there are sites that publish tips and tricks on how to get the most refund from AirBnb after one completed their stay. I wish Airbnb would limit the reimbursement to just the period of stay after they raise issues, which in this case would be zero days of stay because the guest specifically refused fix for have the minor issues (in their own words) they raised.
Thank you for reading and responding. It gave me a sense of community support. Beyond the income loss, I worry about the review from
the guest, which is not yet published. . I suspect AirBnb will not support me in removing their review. Is there a process or specific tips or word phrases I could utilize in my request to have their review removed?
@Vidhya-and-Hemanth0 It's not reasonable to leave diatomaceous earth out when guests are staying, regardless of if you have to replace it. To them, it just looks like a powder that someone failed to clean up. That can be used outside the home, but definitely not okay to leave down inside the home while guests are staying. What made you think that was okay? Also, it's dangerous if breathed in, so that's a hazard to the guests.
The rest of this sounds unreasonable on the guests' part, but this issue is on you. All the guest would have seen is powder that somebody didn't clean. I'm all about organic pest management, but that was not okay.
Thank you for that feedback. totally get how an unknown powder around the crawl space and in the closet might have been unwelcome. We had put the DE on the request of the previous guest and were asked by them not to vaccum it. If this guest had asked about the powder as soon as they noticed it, we would have explained and also vacuumed it out if they didn’t want it. They shouldn’t have waited 30 days to complain and got 30% refund. We cleaned it up fully for the next guest, explained about potential ants and DE, and per their request, applied it where they asked anfter they moved in and checked with them that they are ok with it. We will do this as a practice going forward any time DE might be needed. Thank you shown for the valid feedback.
To remove a review, you need to refer to the terms and conditions for reviews for Airbnb. Reviews are subjective but if you can prove they violated the terms and conditions (discriminatory remarks, retaliation (harder to prove), etc.) you can get the review removed. I’ve read it is more difficult to remove a review if they state the problems and give a compliment to the host.
The best response would be to thank them for their review and then address the issues they state in the review.
For instance, we send a message to check in with guests the day after check in and no issues were mentioned at that time. If we are notified of issues, we address them promptly and keep the guest informed of the progress. We had no way to address these issues as they were not brought up until the stay was completed and you filed a complaint with customer service.
We appreciate you letting us know the dishwasher was not working and we were happy to send someone to investigate or order a new one for installment. The dishwasher was in working order prior to your stay. We were notified in x days that it was working again so we cancelled the order for a new dishwasher.
For future reference, general instructions for all appliances and location information is in the house manual in the binder in the home and are also sent out in messages.
We are sorry that you were unhappy with your stay as we aim to provide a great experience and provide routine maintenance on our listing. If there was better communication about issues we could have addressed them sooner. We have had many happy guests and great reviews so we are surprised at the feedback provided by you. Thank you again for staying with us.
@Vidhya-and-Hemanth0. The only time you should do internal pest treatments is when you dont have guests and you allow time for it to be removed afterwards. Here for regular ant treatments its an external perimeter barrier spray. Our pest guy uses an eco spray that looks like a shiny/wet oil so even when applied on hard surfaces like a deck if a dog licked it, there is no harm to pets.
It really sounds like regular maintenance is falling short of expectations. Fix these things then up your prices. You cant help people with cheap accommodation and hope they will be grateful as you risk that they will pick at every short coming and make you pay, as they have done.
Definitely a lesson learned with DE. We only applied DE because a prior guest asked for it.
If money was a priority, we wouldn’t have recommended the guest reserve the unit for a month instead of 28 days to get the monthly discount and also committed to refunding them two days of stay on top of it. When the guest said the dishwasher is not working, we ordered s a new one for replacement the same day.I don’t know why you assumed we are cutting short on maintenance or trying to offer cheap options in the hopes of saving money. Definitely not the case with us. Sorry to disagree.
@Vidhya-and-Hemanth0 Sorry this all happened. Sounds like the no good deed goes unpunished 😐
For the future, I would tighten up my rules stating that if there is any type of deficiency reported by guest in the first 24 hours, we are coming in to take care of it. I have this in my rental agreement.
While guest may find this inconvenient, it still needs to be addressed ASAP. Especially if it has anything to do with plumbing, leaks or mechanical failures. I would have had the dishwasher looked at before ordering up a new one. It is understood you wanted to remedy the issue for them but then the dishwasher started working. Often times it is user error when it comes to appliances.
May the good deed gods be with you in the future!
Thank you for the kind words and wishes @Karen114 ! The current clients seem very happy with the house and our hosting support. Will add to house rules that issues should be brought up as soon as they are noticed and reasonable access to be provided within 48 hours to fix. Lessons learned and actions being put into practice 😀