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We had a guests arrive yesterday to our house.
Initially all seemed well. They communicated and asked questions about the house, bedding and ironing facilities. Okay they didn't read the web page or house manual, but that aside, all fairly normal.
They insisted on having an 11am check in following a 5 hour drive. They texted me at 7.30 to say they had left. They arrived 2 hours late at 2.30pm.
They said they had got lost, despite having a sat nav and the route being a straight line along motorways and a main road.
They booked for 4 adults and 2 children. Our home hosts 6 people, so no issue there.
They arrived with an extra guest.
The guest, who apparently was a grandmother immediately said to me that she was staying somewhere else. This made me more suspicious.
What should I do as a host in these circumstances?
I was worried that if I didn't hand over the keys that may cause a conflict, a risk to my security, my partner and young daughter who were with me, or to the house.
On the other hand, given their actions, can they be trusted with our home? Particularly as they are renting the entire house, we are not living close by, the risk.
I thought I would contact them and speak with Airbnb.
I messaged them through the Airbnb app to ask if they could confirm that they only had 6 guests. They did not respond.
I thought Airbnb would be able to help.
Despite queuing on the phone for nearly an hour and being disconnected, I rang back.The call handler could not help me, they assured me that they would flag my concerns as urgent and someone would contact me as a priority.
Twelve hours on. It's now 3.30 in the morning, the guest has not responded and neither have Airbnb!
Its been a sleepless night. I am worried and I am trying to analyse the situation.
It's been over 12 hours since I heard from anyone. So I try the message bot. It's a security issue. The message says get some help. Not helpful!
The Airbnb message system isn't working. I call Airbnb. The call handler is naive and robitic. She asks me to repeat the issue. By this time I am fully awake in the spare room under the duvet, in an attempt not to wake the family.
The call handler insists I go through everything again, despite it being logged on my previous call and bot message.
I asked what my options are. She says she wants photos. Photos of what? The guests arriving. Really!
I tried to explain again and ask what my options are. She says she is going to call the guest. Not a great response at 3.30 in the morning.
I ask again what my options are. She says I can go to the house to speak with them. How far away am I? I explain it's a 3 hour round trip on a Saturday morning and that I explain that don't want a conflict.
She announced that she is going to call them.
I said stop, I have asked for my options. The response is that this is your only option if you do not want Airbnb to call. I stay calm and say well you have not discussed the full range of options with me. She insists she has. I remind her that she has not thought about me texting or calling her. Are there other options? She repeats that she will call them.
I explain that I am not happy in her response and say that I want this escalated as an urgent priority to a more senior member of staff. She tells me she will do that but cannot tell me when I will get a response. I tell her I want to make a formal complaint against Airbnb customer services.
So, I have a problem at check-in. Airbnb are not available. They don't follow up. They don't listen. They are reckless in their responses and behaviour and the escalation process does not work effectively. Airbnb are not helping. They are actually making things worse. It feels like we're on our own.
I am extremely unhappy with the poor customer support and customer service and I am no closer to resolving my concerns of a potentially untrustworthy guest who has the key to my house, extra guests and a very large van parked on the drive!
I would appreciate the advice of fellow hosts based on your experience.
Guess who got extra guest today? Me! And guess what, I don't care as long as they don't try and cook up a bunch of greasy food.
It was a really young guy in the US military who said he hadn't seen his family in a year. I did mention that he booked for 2 guest but I could kind of tell he might be bringing more. I happened to see most of them when I was pulling in and they were very nice. His family is from Mexico, and all very nice, and I could tell he appreciated me bing accommodating. So as long as everything is clean I don't care, as I don't provide extra blankets and what not so no extra work for me and just seems like a really nice guy.
Good for you @John5097 I am glad they were tidy.
I drove past our Airbnb early yesterday morning to drop the little one off at nursery and saw an extra car there with two extra people getting in as I passed.
I stopped and said hello and asked if everything was okay.
The guest said that there was sand in one of the wash basins in the main bathroom that was causing it to drain slowly! I'm not sure how they knew it was sand if it was nothing to do with them?
I told them I would arrange a plumber. I waited locally with the little one until the plumber was available some 4 hours later. I arrived with a plumber to fix it and they wouldn't let us in to fix it. There's no pleasing some people.
On a positive Airbnb did come back to me after 4 days. Their response was that they were happy to contact the guest to see if she would confirm extra numbers and if she did, as a moderate booking policy is in place I could cancel her remaining nights and receive 50% of the remaining money.
With only two nights left it's a bit late and I don't think we would achieve anything from this. So as we discussed, it's a case of strengthening the words on the website and dealing with matters at checkout.
They also confirmed that the electronic devices that were suggested would appear to be acceptable by Airbnb and could be used in future.
Another top tip he shared which I wasn't aware of is that when you check a person's profile out. I couldn't see their reviews. He confirmed that if there were reviews they would be shown, so if you can't see them, there aren't any, which you may assume means they are new guest, despite have a profile set up three years ago.
With this new information I have set the booking settings to request booking, which I think will help. Let's see.
Oh four hours waiting for a plumber. If you didn’t make sure to schedule that with guest. Now you will need to see what plumber finds. Drain pipes do require maintenance and can become clogged over time especially older ones.
Sounds like you are definitely doing your part and such a beautiful place. Sorry you are having some issues with these guest. I think that would be a good approach to update some monitoring and add clear rules in listing. As well as changing your booking settings. I changed mine so guest with no reviews have to request to book and may just do the request to book for everyone.
Mine is attached to my house so I don’t have to worry about parties. But it’s always something when hosting. The guest network on my router quit working and it’s still under warranty but Netgear wants $60 to troubleshoot it that I’m not th about to pay them. So if I can’t fix it I’ll have to get another new one. So host can only do the best they can.
I’ll also mention to my guest about the rules moving forward. I could have said something sooner, and it’s completely different because I live there and ok if guest want to bring extra person as long as they have their own blankets and such.
Good luck and these guest will be gone soon enough.
Yes I will make sure I absolutely spell it out that by saying I will get someone to fix it I mean I will get a plumber in to fix it as soon as possible and is that okay with you.
It does beg the question of what to do in an emergency. I assume that I am allowed access?
I am not sure how it works where you are, we get a WiFi hub with the line rental. I bought a very cheap router around £25 to send the signal around the house on the advice of our local IT man, who came around to set it up and set up home and guest networks and passwords for around £40. Would that be an option?
I am looking forward to checking my guests out! 😊