Hello everyone, I'm Alessandro from the Como Lake in Italy....
Hello everyone, I'm Alessandro from the Como Lake in Italy. I've been working in the Hospitality sector for a couple of dec...
Unfortunately, after zero problems with previous bookings (I have worked with several great hosts), I will no longer book through this platform after receiving suspicious communications with a host and getting no backup from Airbnb leaving me no option but to cancel my reservation and accept a partial refund of barely half of what I was charged.
In my situation, I received a message from the host (after the time to request a full refund had past), asking me to email a picture of myself and my identification/driver’s license using a form generator. The request alone was not overly concerning, however, in an age when identity left is common, I didn’t feel comfortable blindly sending confidential information using a form generator that anyone could create before receiving some reassurance that I was dealing with a legitimate business.
I was initial uneasy because the listing was new, it was listed under a single business name, instead of an individual and I couldn’t locate any information about the business online. In addition, I made several attempts to accommodate the request by meeting in person (an option also listed in their house rules), or at least having a conversation with a live representative. The communications just became more suspicious with every response with a total lack of transparency, and after refusing to even have a direct conversation, I was unwilling to proceed.
Most concerning is that I contacted Airbnb (customer service and management) several times to attempt to resolve the issue and was given nothing but the run around. Every representative I spoke to seemed to fully understand my concerns and would tell me they would escalate the issue. However, a short time later, I would receive a message in my inbox stating that they reviewed the issue and because the host had this requirement listed in the house rules there was nothing they could do. However, they refused to acknowledge that the option for an in-person check-in to show ID was also listed in the house rules. Regardless, I never refused to show my identification and offered several accommodations to meet the listed requirements, including going to the host’s office or meeting them even up to a couple of days before my check-in.
Unfortunately, through the handling of this dispute, Airbnb showed that they only in this to collect what have become outrageous fees and that they definitely do not protect the guest. If this was truly a legitimate host (still undetermined) I have no doubt the issue could have been resolved with better communication and transparency. I understand that a host should have rights to protect themselves from fraud, however, so should guests.
@Nikki459 did you expect to stay in someones furnished home and they not know who you are ? airbnb is the 'booking agent ' and do not share either your credit card details or your identity with the host ?hosts simply do not purchase a ghhome , furnish it and put it on the short term rental market to 'steal your id ' . If you have travelled overseas at all you may realise that a lot more identity than a liscence is required for accomodation in many countries. Some places allow random un named strangers to stay in their homes , maybe you prefer this but most hosts prefer to keep both their guests and themselves a little safer by knowing who the adults are in their homes . as they say 'maybe you would prefer a hotel'H
The identification process I went through with Airbnb when I signed up for an account, the length of time that I have been on Airbnb, along with the 100% positive reviews from every host I have previously booked with should be a solid indication of who I am as a guest.
I am not even sure if you read my post because it was NOT a request for my credit card information or a request that came from Airbnb, it was a request made directly from the host whom I had never booked with before asking for my ID and picture to be sent using a form generator that anyone could create.
And as I further explained, it was not simply the request for identification that made me uncomfortable - it was the fact that this was a newer listing with minimal reviews from a company name only without any available information online for any type of verification, the unwillingness to talk or meet in person directly, and a total lack of transparency.
All of these were pretty solid red flags that gave me no reassurance that I should be sending this type of confidential information to an unknown source. I never refused to show my identification, I just requested to speak so someone or meet in-person to do so. I am not sure how you would consider this unreasonable, in any Country.
@nikki 459 . If this is the case Nikki then report the host to Airbnb . H
@Helen744 - I did (as stated in my post) contact Airbnb several times without receiving any resolution - hence, the reason for my post. Airbnb's stance was that since it was listed in the house rules (hidden deep within an exhausting list of other rules that appeared to come from a long-term rental contact rather than a short term vacation rental), they couldn't do anything about it and wouldn't process a full refund. So, I am warning other guests to beware.
I also wanted to let reputable hosts using Airbnb know that good guests are being ran off with this type of service and policies by Airbnb. I personally will not rent from Airbnb again. After cancelling this reservation, I found a great local host whom I dealt with directly and saved the ridiculous booking fees and hassle, so it was a win-win for us both!
@Nikki459 No one is ever going to get a refund because they dont trust the host. The hosts cancellation policy is in place to prevent casual cancellations because these are not hotels.The messages that you send the host should have shown all of your concerns and Airbnb can see them .The rules are not generally as long as you make out and you do agree with them before you book. Maybe read them in future or as you say ,stay somewhere else. H
@Nikki459 I totally agree that you should not be uploading identifying personal info into a form, and especially since you offered to provide this info either in person prior to or at check-in. I’m just sorry that you had to eat cancellation fees.
I am assuming that you had already uploaded your DL, a CC of course, and phone # and email address. As a host, that’s all I request. Matter-of-the-fact, I dont even want to know another person’s DL# or passport# unless it’s required by a gov’t entity.
So, in the future, send a request to the host asking if the info you uploaded to airbnb platform will suffice.
@Gwen386 If you look at reviews Gwen you will be aware that the photo id on many forms of id are not ideal . I always request clear pictures , no avatars , no sunglasses , no obscured faces . as I have some face blindness and there fore have some trouble knowing that the person turning up is the person who booked then this issue is super important to me . Do you actually know who is staying in your property Gwen ? and since Airbnb do not give you id , and since fake ids are more rife than Airbnb hosts stealing ids , I am not sure how you verify without asking. This is not an issue until there is a problem and its my experience that not actually knowing the ids of your guests puts any chance of recouping possible losses in jeopardy . Its my house not a laissez faire , easy come , easy go flop house. H
Thank you @Gwen386 , I was pretty surprised by this type of request and even more surprised that Airbnb is allowing it. I had never previously been asked by a host for this type of information using this procedure. And yes, I am fully verified through Airbnb and made several attempts to resolve the issue well before check-in with both the host and Airbnb.
Just because you have never been asked before, I don't think it's as uncommon as you think. I've seen a lot of (reputable) hosts post here that they require ID from all their guests. I don't know if many of them use an online form for this or not though.
I do understand why you would be uncomfortable about doing this, especially with a new host that you know little about. I have been the victim of quite a substantial identity theft fraud and I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.
However, one of the reasons that hosts might ask for ID is because they never see any of the stuff you provide to Airbnb for verification. That is all hidden from the host to protect the guest. That would be okay, if we could be 100% sure that this verification system actually worked, but often it does not.
I have had a guest whom I turned away (due to a really bad review on her profile) try to book again using a fake profile. This was flagged by Airbnb and I was told to report and block her. However, Airbnb let both her profiles remain on the platform, despite this being against their own rules, and BOTH profiles said ID verified. Since then, the guest has been able to use the second profile (without the negative review) to book with other airbnbs.
It is possible that your host was some sort of scammer. I don't know why they refused to speak to you on the phone. On the other hand, it's also possible that they were just being extra cautious and the fact that they had a long list of house rules would tie in with that. They might have seen your reluctance to upload the ID and photo as a red flag and therefore decided to insist on it rather than let you do the in-person ID check.
Who knows? I am sorry you got the run around with Airbnb CS, but it doesn't really surprise me as it's a bit of a shambles. However, I think that they were correct in saying that you couldn't be refunded for something stated in the house rules.
I know this experience has put you off booking Airbnbs in future, but as you've had such good experiences before, I hope you reconsider. I would suggest you instead just always book with established hosts who have lots of positive reviews.