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Hi! I am hearing that all hosts will
be moved to the same fee structure as the hosts using PMS systems by December. Is that true
I'm still confused.
"...December 1, 2025: Most hosts currently on the single-fee structure who are not connected to property management software."
The above says "single fee structure" (Host only fee). These are Hosts who don't use a PMS, but have already voluntarily switched to the Host only fee. It doesn't say Hosts currently on the split fee structure will change Dec 1?
For everyone's sanity we really need Airbnb to make an official announcement I think as the information as it stands is dividing the community here but on the net too.
I agree I seem to be in the minority, still thinking that the split fee will be available to some hosts. Otherwise this means that Airbnb are doing away completely with the split fee option as of December 1st and if this were the case, surely they would have made that crystal clear from the word go?
The split-fee pricing structure will no longer be available to hosts who use property management software to manage their listing, effective as follows:
Did anyone receive an email from Airbnb about this major change?
Still trying to find clarity on this issue so thought I would go and check out the settings part on my listing to see if there was any added information there.
Under the single fee section only, hosts are informed of the increase on the commission fee as of December 1st but no change or any reference to any change under the split fee section:
What do you think??
Thinking that this supports the idea that the split fee option is still in effective Dec 1, 2025 (no change).
Airbnb may still decide to move everyone to the single-fee at some point.
We'll see what happens December 1st...
@Shelley159 @Joan2709 @Elaine701 @Joelle43
In Norway we who don't run our Airbnbs as businesses are taxed by the gross income. So when we have to up our prices to cover the fee it will increase our taxable income. Also, we have no deductions. We're taxed by a stencil rule.
But from MY understanding we will not be affected by this change on Dec. 1st when we don't use PMs.
No deductions? It just doesn't make sense. How can a business (or any economy) survive that?
So, you have for sake of simplicity, 1000 in gross income. You pay tax on that amount.
But then, you pay 500 of that income to the cleaners, the electric company, the laundry service, and whatever else. Including other taxes like city taxes covering rubbish collection.. and any VAT.
But you've already paid tax on that money.
Yet, those services are then also taxed on that income. So the taxman gets it again ...from the same money. And you've now paid tax on other taxes that you had to pay.
But those services also have expenses and pay employees, who are also taxed on their income, which you both have already paid tax on. Taxman gets it again. From the same money.
... and the same money keeps getting taxed as it passes through the economy ...
(?)
We have a basic deduction of NOK 15.000,-. We can earn that tax free. Then we have a 15% deduction of every NOK above 15.000,-.
If I make NOK 20.000,- I'm taxed 22% (tax level on finacial income) of 4.250,-.
The 15% are meant to cover the cost of business.
And yes, we pay for services from our already taxed income. If we buy bread our salaries used for this is already taxed. This principle is brought on to the Airbnb income as the service fee is a service bought. It's just that it’s deducted from our payout instead of invoiced and paid afterwards. Hence why we pay tax on the gross income, but with a stencil deduction.
If we run our Airbnbs as businesses other regulations apply. Then there's deduction. But you still have to start the math with the gross income.
Fair enough.
But the numbers clearly show that switching from the split system to the single fee system actually results in paying less commission. In most any tax jurisdiction, this would be a plus. It certainly is for us.
I just wonder; if those fearing tax repercussions have actually discussed it with an accountant. Because while Airbnb rarely does things that are good for hosts, this one actually is a good thing.
And it's the same model as any other platform. So you'd think it would be commonly accepted in tax declarations.