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Hi, I just had my first horrible experience with hosting. They were a family and from the messages I got that they were going to be difficult because they were demanding and never said thanks like it was all owed to them. They asked to be picked up at the train station, they asked to be sent more photos of the house I already have many, they asked for suggestions for other cities not for the one Im hosting, they asked to have more sets of keys, they asked to leave their bags after checkout etc... Im new to the community and thought that if I could do it ok so I did everything they asked. When they arrived they were not in the place we agreed so I searched for them for 1 hour and a half (in total for the checkin 3 hours). They didnt say sorry or anything. In the appartment they refused to pay the city tax at first and wanted me to return the next day to pick the money up. I refused and they started yelling at me all 5 of them against one. I was very calm and said look let's solve. They talked down and critized my house for example there's only one bathroom? and I was like yes like in the photos and explanations in the webpage. Then they continously wrote to me at midnight and at 7;30 in the morning asking things they wanted immediate answers. They broke wine glasses, and they didnt want to pay, they opened my locked armoire where I keep the stuff for the house. They threatened me with a this is your job and you depend on our review we will write you a horrible one. They were supposed to checkout at 11am and they got angry when at 3:30 they had not yet left with their bags, they still wanted to use the internet. There were many many more things that made this horrible. I was calm and tried to be a good host doing more than I was supposed to, I tried to ignore their tones and their attitudes until they really didnt leave and the other guests were about to arrive. And now what? I am to be penalized with a horrible review I dont think its fair that hosts are penalized but guests can threaten with reviews and horrible treatment and they are not. Please I would like to learn what to do with this cases because I want to be better prepared and learn from this. Sorry for the long story I really didn't mention all they said and their horrible attitudes and lack of education.
Sorry to hear that! If people sound abrupt on messages you got the right to say no. It's your house at the end of the day. And I agree that just because they pay they shouldn't have the last say over your review.
OMG 😞
One thing I learned in my life - as soon as someone wants to much from me or doesn't behave well to me - it will only become worse if I don't stop such behaviour at the very begining, in the root!
It is not easy to be a host, or a landloard or a hotel manager. You have to be polite but in the same time you have to set boundaries, stend up for yourself , your business and your property and do not let them walk over you.
You are Italian woman so use your italian temperament and energy ! You can do it! :))))
Hi Branka and Silvia, thank you for for your support and advice. Im actually mexican jajaj and I do have a temper, dont usually use it on people I am hosting. I did respond with calm and education to them, but was firm about the taxes etc and at the end asked that they immediately leave the appartment because it was after 3pm and checkout had been at 11am. Turned off the WIFI to make them leave among other things. The problem Yes was that I should have send them on their way from the beginning I think I underestimated their attitude and lack of education and thought I wont see them so I dont have to deal with them. Im new here so I am learning. Thank you it helps to have different points of view..
In cases like this, you have the right to call or email or post on The company's facebook page and ask abnb to rehouse these guests immediately. Do not suffer abuse and do not cancel...contact abnb.
I alwys offer to pick up guests who arriving from international flights as the airport is close and they have potentially been traveling 12 to 20 hours and are tired. I do not make this offer to guest arriving from the states
Thank Amy for your support and advice. I will contact Airbnb next time as you suggest. Which is the easiest way to contact them? I thought that it was nice of me to pick them up, and actually dont think it was the problem, I will set clear boundaries next time. I will continue being nice and offering good hosting, but now will handle differently guests like this ones. Thank you
Agree with the others! As hosts, we should do our best to be gracious, but when people become abusive and demanding, it's important to be clear on our boundaries. It's a delicate balance between extending yourself in ways that make someone feel welcome without signalling that you're a doormat. Once you know someone is a vulture, don't give them another inch.
Asking for extra photos is a red flag for many hosts. You have a lovely set of pictures that show every element of your house. There's no need to ask for more.
Same with requesting transportation - they've hired your living space, not these other services. It's fine for them to ask and fine for you to decline.
If you get these clues before you've accepted, just decline them. If they become demanding after reserving, be clear about what you can offer. "This place is meant for self-sufficient travelers. I'm happy to give you some info about the accomodations, but won't be available to you 24/7. If you don't feel this is a good fit, you can cancel through the Airbnb system and I'll send through a refund" (be clear that THEY need to do the cancellation - you don't want to be penalized)
I get the same issue with taxes paid in person. Occasionally people balk, even though it's stated in my listing (as I see it is in yours). It's helped that I send an e-mail the week of their stay with check-in instructions and the amount to be paid (cash!) when I meet them. If they're still acting weird about it, this would be a spot to get Airbnb involved.
Most of the other during-stay issues fall along the same lines "Thanks for your (12:30am!?) message - the glasses are in the cupboard. Unless it's an emergency, I'm unable to answer messages between 8pm and 8am." If they continue, it would be good to involve Airbnb to re-house them.
On the check-out time...this is a big peeve of mine. We're not hotels that can put the next guests in another room, so it's important people check out on time. I give people about 30 minutes after check-out before I start opening doors and moving in with cleaning supplies. I can even manage to do so while keeping up friendly banter about how their stay was and how I wish I could let them stay longer, but expect the next guests in 3 hours. If they're there past checkout, call Airbnb. You may be able to charge them for an additional night.
Threatening to leave a bad review if you don't XYZ is extortion. If they're daft enough to do so over the messaging system you can flag it to Airbnb.
As for what to do now? I'd hold off on reviewing the guest until the very last moment. If you're lucky they won't leave a review. If they do, it's still in your best interest to hold off. Their review won't appear on your page until you've both reviewed or the two week review window is up. Hopefully you can get a more recent guest's (good) review to appear before the bad review. And be honest in your review of them. There was a recent thread (in Hosts?) about some good verbiage to use for bad guests.
Even if they do leave you a bad review, don't sweat it too much. It happens sometimes. You can leave a response that's professional and makes clear that they were difficult guests; it's easy for potential guests to see who the problem was.
Thank you for all your wonderful support and advice. I have a strong personality actually, jaja and I didnt write all they did or all I did answer back (always nicely, maybe needed to more clarity). The problem was I should have sent them on their way from the beginning, I did feel they were going to be difficult, but didnt act accordingly. I have learned from this experience, and will continue learning. I will update my information and be more specific and clear like you said I am not available 24/7 I have a life. The taxes I do remind every guest when I send the check in information, days before arrival. I did not answer the 12 o clock messages or the 7:30am messages. I wrote always Good morning and thank you even though they never did. At the end asked that they leave the appartment because it was after 3pm and checkout had been at 11am. Turned off the WIFI to make them leave among other things. I think I underestimated their attitude and lack of education and thought I wont see them so I dont have to deal with them. Im new here so my responses will improve, I am actually usually good with saying what I need, but making people like me anyway. The thing is when someone is like that it doesnt matter if you're nice or not. Anyway thank you for your feedback and have a great day!
Hello @Bethsabe0
I am so sorry this happened to you.
Many hosts will tell you there are red flags which will make them decline a booking, a demanding guest, asking for more photos, to be picked up, leaving bags after check out, would make a lot of hosts decline this guest.
Having gone ahead, when the guest starting being rude to you, wasted your time and threatened you with a bad review, that would definitely be the time to call Airbnb and ask them to cancel the booking.
Call Airbnb now explain what has happened and that your guest threatened you with a bad review.
Unfortunately it sounds like these guests walked over you. You can be polite and professional while being firm and not giving in to unreasonable demands.
Going forward if you have Instant Book, please take it off so you can choose your guests, and if they behave badly before booking, take it as a red flag and decline the booking.
There are lots of lovely guests out there, I'm sure if you take some time to make sure there is a good fit, your next guests will be much better.
Best of luck,
Hi Helen thank you for your support and advice. I actually didnt respond to the midnight messages, and all the last demands. The problem was I thought I was being nice and it didnt cost me, I did need to be firmer. I underestimated their nastiness and thought oh well I wont need to see them again. The problem was the threat to leave me a bad review was at the very end (it was even worse the man told me I know this is your livelihood and you depend on our review you cant imagine the horrible review you will receive after this) when I turned off the internet, and told them they had to leave(at 3pm when checkout was at 11am), because the other guests were arriving as we spoke. They got really angry, and started to be even worse. It was a nasty experience, but I know I will have and have already had wonderful guests. I will improve and will continue to write to confront with hosts who have a bigger experience. Do you know which is the easiest way to contact Airbnb when this situations happen? thank you
Hello @Bethsabe0
1. Through the booking confirmation
2. Through social media
3. Calling them
have a look at the CONTACT AIRBNB post - 2nd post Community Help
Hi Bethsaba
I too am sorry this happened to you. For the sake of everyone else in the airBnB host comunity you have to keave a review to say these people were unsuitable to stay with airBnB.
In addition here in Cumbria Uk the local Police have suggested that threatening a bad review in order to get extra services or a discount is blackmail (Extortion in USA) therefore a criminal offence. They will consider prosecution. Most Smart Phones have a voice record app as standard or can be downloaded. Any guest who was offhand with me once would have all further encouter recorded and the audiofiles forwarded to airBnB Towers
The problem is that the Guests appear to be able to simply delete their accounts and start again.
I am new to AirBNB and immediately have a problem.
My pending guest cancelled 1 week before the commencement date of his stay.
He put it in a message to me on the site.
But unfortunately, he did not cancel the reservation on his dashboard.
I have just heard from Airbnb that they will be paying me the monies for his stay in the next few days.
I obviously do not want this money.
I have tried to write to airbnb and I have also asked the guest to cancel on his dashboard which
he has not done to date. I have not been successful. Can someone give me some advice please it would
be very much appreciated. I need to contact AirBNB urgently.
Thanks
Brenda.
You should not cancel. You will be punished (perhaps money, definitely by blocking those dates for future reservations, and definitely by making you ineligible for superhost status for a year). You should message via airbnb and let the gues know that he needs to cancel his reservation officially, not just by telling you that he is not coming. If he cancels withing the bounds of your cancellation policy he should get all his money back.
You should not receive any funds unless he has already checked in. If you do receive funds, you can refund him via the resolution center.