I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a st...
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I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a strict 4pm checkin time & they showed up at 2:15 saying they chose ...
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I'm stunned at how badly Airbnb support treated me. I'm a longstanding Superhost w 148 reviews, average 4.9. I rented a bedroom in my house for a week to a woman w no reviews, and sent her 5 messages via Airbnb, trying to arrange check-in and mentioning that on the night after her arrival, I would host a house concert. She never replied to any of those messages.
Finally, though I prefer to communicate via Airbnb, I texted her on her cellphone. She said she hadn't received my emails and messages. She agreed on a time to pick up the keys...and then asked about the concert...so she was obviously lying about not having received my messages. She wanted to know whether the concert guests would have access to her room. I told her no, not at all - concerts take place in the living room (it's a monthly series that many of my other guests have greatly enjoyed, and no one has ever complained about them) and no one goes upstairs. She asked if she could lock the bedroom door, and I said yes, certainly. I also invited her to attend as my guest, and said I'd be happy to answer any other questions. She said he expected to be out during the concert.
A few hours later, I noticed emails from an Airbnb support rep, Kyle, who said his role was to moderate between host and guest. She had called him and complained that I would be having a 'party' of which I had not notified her when she booked. He gave me *ONE HOUR* to reply. I was in a work meeting during that hour so Kyle cancelled her entire reservation and gave her a 100% refund, overriding my strict cancelllation policy. The fact that he let her cancel amazes me, since of course although there is no Airbnb rule forbidding hosts from having gatherings in their homes! In one more vicious detail, Kyle canceled in my name, so the dates were blocked and it would have cancelled my Superhost status. (I have never actually cancelled a reservation.) How can this possibly be understood as moderating between two people?
In my view, the Airbnb rep instantly took the side of a would-be guest with no reviews, who didn't reply to several days of messages from me (as Kyle could see in our message thread) over that of a longstanding successful host. (Kyle told me he set a one-hour limit for my own reply since her issue was 'urgent') I love Airbnb, but this isn't the first time that I've felt no support from Support. On the rare occasions when I have trouble with a guest and ask for help, it's not there. This is the first time that I felt thrown under the bus, though.
I emailed Kyle to express my amazement and disappointment. He replied to say he would call me and try to work out something. In the call, he did not. All he did was to try to justify his decision, and in many cases wouldn't even let me finish my sentences. (Before calling me, he had changed the cancellation so the site no longer falsely indicates that I was the one who cancelled. That automatically unblocked the dates. I relisted the dates at ridiculously low 'price tips' - about half of the normal price - and got rebooked).
Is there anything I can do, either to get this incident resolved better, or to get Airbnb support not to do this sort of thing to me and other hosts? Warm thanks in advance for any help from the community...
Try them on Twitter.
Sorry to hear about your issues. The more i read on this page the more worried I get about using this site? As hosts we are opening our homes to strangers and really taking a risk with our properties and our safety and trusting that people are decent. We are not giant corporations that can soak up the cost of cancellations and really the Support staff on Airbnb should be very certain before making these kinds of decisions.
I am thinking the same thing, Jennifer. I have just booked my first guest and have already had issues regarding tax collection and wrong pricing on the site. I am new to STRs, but have had three booked through VRBO and haven’t had one problem. There have been red flags concerning AirBnB since I started trying to get my questions answered, and now I think I’m going to pull my listing. It’s not worth jumping through their hoops and being treated the way these people have been treated after becoming superhosts!
@Susan206 That's a really unfortunate situation, and it does sound like the Airbnb rep handled it really badly. That's disappointing. However, on the plus side, it probably did save you from a bad review.
One note: I would consider adding a note about the concerts either to your house rules or things the guest has to acknowledge prior to booking. That way, they can't claim they didn't see it. Although it sounds great and I'm sure many people would be happy to attend, or at worst ambivalent, it might weed out some of the people who wouldn't want to attend or who want a very quiet listing. I see you have it in your listing text on one of your listings, but I'd put it more front-and-centre.
Thank you! @Alexandra316 @Helen, both good ideas. The concerts are in my profile and I always let guests know in advance if their stay will overlap with a concert (and invite them) but I'll add it to the info they have to acknowledge before booking. In this case though, the guest's objection was so baseless (was she was worried that the musicians or concert guests would rush upstairs and break down her locked bedroom door with a sledgehammer while she was out? Between songs? :) that I suspect she wanted to cancel and was looking for an excuse to do so without penalty. I had that happen before - someone who had booked a long stay tried to 'alter' it by deleting almost all of it. She was another transparent liar and I later learned that she had found alternate lodgings - she was trying to evade the cancellation fees. I think that's what happened here and that Airbnb enabled it, to my detriment.
@Susan206 Airbnb has seriously mishandled this situation. It is depressing to read so many similar stories here in the forums. You could definitely try calling Airbnb Superhost support; use Twitter or contact support via Facebook.
It is concerning that the cancellation was first made to look like it was from you. Does this Mean the guest can write a review? Hope not! She would have made a truly awful guest, so at least you did not have to suffer through a week with her. 😉
Thank you @Rebecca160. What is the best Twitter handle to use, please? And wow, it did not occur to me that the guest might be able to write a review. If she does I will simply reply with the truth.
There are many- many hosts that really don't know about AIRBNB's cancellation policy.. I didn't, until I started reading all these discussions, horrific! Airbnb's cancellation policy really needs to be revised. Its standard in Hawaii that 60 days prior to arrival - NO refunds, unless the time can be rebooked, that gives the host plenty of time to rebook, and it insures that those folks that want a cheaper deal don't cancel prior to arrival, or after. The real "cheaters" know that they can get a refund after they arrive, .. and don't take into account they paid 2 booking fees for that cheaper deal.. . People that ask me about the cancellation policy, the "what if's" plane doesn't fly etc.. I tell them that is what trip insurance is for, and please look into purchasing trip insurnace, I also ask them not to book if they're unsure. I asked friends today that also advertise on AIRBNB, if they understood that airbnb will refund someone after a check in... they had no idea, we don't want those guests. We're a legitimate business.
Hey all, reporting back. AirbnbHelp thinks they handled this case just fine and told me this: a guest can cancel and get a 100% refund if a host fails to disclose "anything that might affect a guest's stay" either on the listing page, or via message - BEFORE a reservation is confirmed. In my case it was a three-hour dinner and concert in my living room, nowhere near the lockable bedroom the guest had rented, on an evening when she said she planned to be out. How it would have affected her stay, I have no idea. I still think it was bogus, but Airbnb gave her the benefit of every doubt because, to quote the rep, "we needed to find her a place to stay at short notice" (She made it short notice by ignoring my messages.)
I've updated the listing as @Alexandra198 suggested (thank you - you are the authentic AirbnbHelp imo) and that should prevent this from happening again re: the concerts.
"Anything that might affect a guest's stay" is a giant loophole though, that Airbnb should disclose to hosts. Are they already doing so? Have I just missed it?
Warm thanks for all your help. I generally love renting Airbnb places, as a host and as a guest, because nearly all the other guests and hosts I've met over the years have been fine, and many of them have been truly wonderful. I've posted for the first time on these discussion boards because of this snafu, so am grateful even for it, in a way.
@Susan206 Sadly, it's not surprising that they stood by their decision.
Although I know it's unfortunate for you to lose a reservation, I really feel like you dodged a bullet. I can't imagine that hosting that guest would have gone well if they had kept the reservation. Your home looks beautiful, and if I were your guest, I would be blown away to be invited to an event by my host, as I'm sure will many other guests. She obviously wasn't a good fit for your listing.
I'm glad the advice was helpful, and I'm glad you found the Community Centre: it's a great resource, for sure!
Sadly if Airbnb does not start to support their hosts I feel that they will loose listings to other platforms. They should really get their support up to par.
A very unpleasant situation ideed, so sorry.
These kind of issues of Airbnb siding with guests has exploded exponentially since they have started outsourcing their customer support to other companies. The employees often seem to decide something in favor of the guests without really being familiar with the TOS.
The following podcast is long and about how to process claims, but it gives really valuable insight on the inside workings of ABB customer support. That insight can be used in many ways to make us better understand how to shore up our stance towards guests:
https://www.thehostingjourney.com/how-to-process-a-claim/
For ex., as many of us know in a situation where a conversation happens off platform it's important to sum up a convo that happened off-platform in order to have it as proof later on. Even posting screenshots counts. I usually say I do it to not lose track and have everything on one page to not mix up my exchanges with so many guests.
And personally, I would even have made a reference to the concert "as you'll have seen in my listing description when you booked" to point both the guest and a cs worker to the direction that it had actually been in the listing from the start. (And in case guest says it hadn't been there upon booking Airbnb can even check when what was done to the listing. Question is will they...)
We are all really required to be on our toes and think like lawyers all the way from pre- to post-booking or we'll be frustrated most of the time.