I do pretty decent volume and have pretty good guest communi...
I do pretty decent volume and have pretty good guest communication systems. But fairly often we have guests that aren't too t...
Our experience is that Airbnb’s appeal system is very weak, non transparent and incentives abuse by hosts.
My family stayed in house in Les Houches, France managed by Mana Homes. It cost us around €5k for a week. The management company claimed we did €500 damage to dining chairs, Persian rug and fridge door shelf. We have pictures and video of everything of when we left.
The pictures made it crystal clear that the damage to the chairs and rug were wear and tear. The fridge shelf was damaged when we arrived so we took it off not to damage it any further. The Managment company also said that all items were less than a year old, which they clearly weren’t. The fridge, for example, was same year as the house (c2007).
Airbnb’ reason for not deciding in our favour was on that they had “reasons to believe”. But they didn’t actually give a reason other than a generic paragraphs on how they do market research etc.
Does anyone have any advice how to raise the dispute further, including legal avenues?
It’s not the money but the principle that matters here. The system only allows one appeal and then they take the money out of our account. Airbnb also stops you from removing your credit card if there is any ongoing matter. So we couldn’t just leave Airbnb either. We’ll do it after when we can. But still working out how to handle the dispute mechanism. This sort of result incentivises unscrupulous hosts to game the system to get more money. The host here (Mana Homes - management company) waited for after the 2 week feedback limit had passed before making the claim.
Hello @Andrew3795
Considering the glowing review that Mana Homes left you, this does seem surprising to then put in a claim for damages. And yes, this should be done within 14 days of a guests departure. How many days after did you receive notification of the damage claim?
I would try calling Airbnb on 01 84 88 40 00 f you haven't already done so to dispute this rather than going through the Resolution center as I fear it's automated by AI.
Good luck and keep us updated
Joëlle
Thanks joelle43! I think you’re right. Every conversation I had with the Airbnb over the app did feel I wasn’t taking with a human. I figured the appeal would still be assed by a human. But given the response was nonsensical it must have been AI taught to just arbitrage an outcome. Will try a phone. But it’s going to be an awful experience also.
Btw it was about 1-3 days after the 14 day period.