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Hi I booked an 2 night stay with my husband 2 kids and his sister brother in law and 2 kids for my husband as a gift for his 40th birthday as a gift not to have a party or celebration. We aren’t drinkers or smokers and we were turned down cause I said he was 40! It’s Catrona from Garvagh, surely the host should have messaged to ask were we celebrating or partying? I think this is ridiculous and have screenshotted the house and told people what happened and theyre saying it ridiculous and wouldn’t book with her either.  I’m shocked this has happened as we’re a quiet family and the host didn’t care to ask. 

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Hi @Ashleigh166 ,

 

As a host I have some additional insight. While not the outcome you anticipated (the decline), here's some thoughts:

 

- as hosts we have little to no support, power, recourse if there is an issue in our homes. The only tool we have is to vet guests in a way that helps anticipate issues and prevents fraud or loss of income or damage to our property, damage to an online presence, loss of insurance, loss of a permit, etc. The stakes are high on the host side as for most, a property represents a significant personal investment. On the guest side there are no stakes. If something is a miss you have the full support of AIRBNB (a host does not) and can just go stay elsewhere. Inconvenient but not a devastating personal loss.

 

- guests have lots of information to make an informed decision about a host and a listing: photos, reviews, a list of amenities, details. For a host there is only the info in the profile of a guest.

 

- a red flag for hosts is a new profile, just created and host is first reservation. Given the direction of AIRBNB I would suggest that this type of profile will struggle to use the platform as this type of guest just represents too large of a risk for a host. It is extremely nerve wracking and it is on the hosts shoulders to be the punching bag that needs to communicate how things work.  For many, it just isn't worth the risks.

 

- You were lumped into all of this as you noted and not given the benefit of the doubt. In many cases hosts no longer have grace to give, they have been proven otherwise.  Given all of this I still totally understand your side, it doesn't make it feel any less insulting. I get it! I really do.

 

- so here's some general advice on approaching a listing no matter if you are new or not:

*when you message a host about a listing include a comment that mentions their house rules: "we read the house rules and will be sure to follow, we also take our shoes off at home" or whatever! Show that you read the house rules and will follow. We are no smoking and will only have 2 cars (or whatever) and appreciate the parking info (or whatever!)

*compliment/mention the listing and read the whole listing! Make sure it is a good match for your group. Mention why it is a good match in your message. "We are coming with 4 children and appreciate the sleeping offered for kids in your home, or whatever. "we picked your home as it really suits our needs and thank you for sharing! Love the photo of the 'whatever' or loved the fact that it's close to a park or whatever.

*describe your group: we are two adults and children ages X & Y. We are coming to celebrate a birthday and will be taking the children to 'here' and 'here' and would love some additional recommendations or insight on these places. 

*I would NOT do this on an initial message: ask for an early check in or late check out, ask for leniency on any of the house rules (says no pets but I want to bring my pet, then you should find a pet friendly place), says up to 4 adults but you need 6 so you should look for a place that takes 6, and so on.

*and since you have a new profile you can just acknowledge that you are new and recognize the host may want to ask some additional questions or ask to verify ID and so you would be happy to address.

 

*and finally, you may have done some/all of this and still have this outcome. It could be that the host just had some children in the listing and had a terrible outcome or they just had a guest that was also a new profile and had a terrible outcome. 

 

just some food for thought and hoping the next reservation goes smoothly!

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Hi. I’m a host (nowhere near this) so I thought I’d do what I normally do and view your profile. It looks well written but no past reviews. Is that what this potential host saw? That may be the reason. No reviews yet and bringing 8 people. It’s just a risk hosts can’t really control. That’s just my opinion, but I also haven’t seen that hosts listing. May be other hosts in the UK will reply with more insight.

@Enri1804 @Ashleigh166 

 

I tend to agree with Enri, just from what he's said I would not be able to host either.

I have experience hosting a VERY SOUGHT AFTER APARTMENT singlehandedly for someone --- I could honestly write a book!!!

The things people did, including one who used the apartment to get married in!!!...the memories are just rolling in now.

 

Just some advice if you're celebrating - try to book a nearby hall or ask the jist to help you with that first.

 

Cyn 🙏🏼

@C197 We aren’t celebrating we planned to go away as a gift for his birthday. We were spending the weekend doing stuff with the kids. 2 families aren’t going to party. That’s the reason she turned us down. You can’t tire everyone with the same brush how am I meant to get reviews if I’ve never used air b n b 

hi @Enri1804 we have never used air b & b before. Hence why no reviews. Personally I feel like we have been dealt a one size fits all. We’re bringing kids to spend the weekend with them. We aren’t partiers and planned to have a nice weekend. We even had activities booked for the kids around the place I’d booked as I didn’t think she would turn us down. Really disappointed and not ideal for using air b n b for the first time. You can’t tire everyone with the same brush that’s like saying everyone is dirty and messy with no hygiene. Disappointed in this whole experience 

Hi @Ashleigh166 ,

 

As a host I have some additional insight. While not the outcome you anticipated (the decline), here's some thoughts:

 

- as hosts we have little to no support, power, recourse if there is an issue in our homes. The only tool we have is to vet guests in a way that helps anticipate issues and prevents fraud or loss of income or damage to our property, damage to an online presence, loss of insurance, loss of a permit, etc. The stakes are high on the host side as for most, a property represents a significant personal investment. On the guest side there are no stakes. If something is a miss you have the full support of AIRBNB (a host does not) and can just go stay elsewhere. Inconvenient but not a devastating personal loss.

 

- guests have lots of information to make an informed decision about a host and a listing: photos, reviews, a list of amenities, details. For a host there is only the info in the profile of a guest.

 

- a red flag for hosts is a new profile, just created and host is first reservation. Given the direction of AIRBNB I would suggest that this type of profile will struggle to use the platform as this type of guest just represents too large of a risk for a host. It is extremely nerve wracking and it is on the hosts shoulders to be the punching bag that needs to communicate how things work.  For many, it just isn't worth the risks.

 

- You were lumped into all of this as you noted and not given the benefit of the doubt. In many cases hosts no longer have grace to give, they have been proven otherwise.  Given all of this I still totally understand your side, it doesn't make it feel any less insulting. I get it! I really do.

 

- so here's some general advice on approaching a listing no matter if you are new or not:

*when you message a host about a listing include a comment that mentions their house rules: "we read the house rules and will be sure to follow, we also take our shoes off at home" or whatever! Show that you read the house rules and will follow. We are no smoking and will only have 2 cars (or whatever) and appreciate the parking info (or whatever!)

*compliment/mention the listing and read the whole listing! Make sure it is a good match for your group. Mention why it is a good match in your message. "We are coming with 4 children and appreciate the sleeping offered for kids in your home, or whatever. "we picked your home as it really suits our needs and thank you for sharing! Love the photo of the 'whatever' or loved the fact that it's close to a park or whatever.

*describe your group: we are two adults and children ages X & Y. We are coming to celebrate a birthday and will be taking the children to 'here' and 'here' and would love some additional recommendations or insight on these places. 

*I would NOT do this on an initial message: ask for an early check in or late check out, ask for leniency on any of the house rules (says no pets but I want to bring my pet, then you should find a pet friendly place), says up to 4 adults but you need 6 so you should look for a place that takes 6, and so on.

*and since you have a new profile you can just acknowledge that you are new and recognize the host may want to ask some additional questions or ask to verify ID and so you would be happy to address.

 

*and finally, you may have done some/all of this and still have this outcome. It could be that the host just had some children in the listing and had a terrible outcome or they just had a guest that was also a new profile and had a terrible outcome. 

 

just some food for thought and hoping the next reservation goes smoothly!

@Greystone0 

Spot on advice! 👍

Yes that does make a lot of sense and I really appreciate you taking the time to get back to me x

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