I'm less than two weeks hosting. A guest booked for one nigh...
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I'm less than two weeks hosting. A guest booked for one night. He checked into a wrong and occupied room. I relocated him to ...
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So, I recently wrote a thread looking for more opinions other than my own, It was not a suprise to me given the nature of the Airbnb Buissness model noticing that I only had Hosts comment on my thread, I was in for a ride hahaha.
Hosts generally side with hosts, yet as a good rule of thumb I've been trying to follow after watching a You Tube Video called Principles for Success by Ray Dalio, I've really liked the one about how It's always good to be able to listen to people that have contrasting views in order to navigate your blind spots.
So in order to enrich the community further (and get more opinions on my past thread) I wanted to make a survey by a quick raising of hands of how many guests vs hosts there are proactively posting and using the community.
Thank you for participating!
@Mary4772 IMO, this forum is populated primarily by hosts, probably an 80/20 or even 90/10, with the % of guests here infrequently and generally with complaints that should be directed to AirBnB's CS. If you want to reach guests, go to social media.
Also, not all hosts side with other hosts ... everyone here has a unique business model, and we each host in our own fashion. We are not cookie cutters.
@Mary4772 I am a past Guest and recent Host. I’ll have to check out your other post. I did rent at least one bad vacation rental condo that hadn’t been cleaned, but now that I am a host I worry about damage and misuse of my home more than anything. That’s why I’m using the community.
Thank YOU Enri!
Host!
I am a host and a guest (my 14th Airbnb stay will be this weekend.)
I hope it's Fantastic!
Thank you!
@Mary4772 I can give you some further context on my experience of being both an Airbnb host and a guest which relates to your previous thread.
Last summer, I had a guest who was not checking out on time. When I messaged them, they were out at an event and told me they would come back to the house when the event was finished to grab their belongings which were all scattered throughout the space. I was furious. They could have easily respected my check-out time and packed up their car before attending this event.
I had new guests checking in in a few hours. I do the cleaning myself but since my cleaning routine was delayed by a little over an hour I had to call in extra help. I work two jobs and take a break in the middle of the day to attend to the Airbnb so now I've lost an extra hour of work at my other job. It added a bunch of stress and frustration to my day and I would prefer the situation never happen again.
So just last month, I was staying at an Airbnb house with a group of friends. When we got the message from our host reminding us of the check-out time and a shortlist of cleaning tasks to help the cleaners, my friends scoffed and said it wasn't that big of a deal if we checked out a little late. I said you're d*mn right it is! and I woke up an hour early to tidy up and corral everyone out the door exactly on time.
@Mary4772 Hosts do not just automatically side with other hosts on this forum. We side with who we find has a legitimate issue. There are plenty of posts here from guests describing an issue they are having with a host or listing, where hosts will advise them that what the host is doing or has done is totally unacceptable. And further advise the guest on how to proceed. If the host's behavior is really egregious, we will even advise them to report the host to Airbnb- that the host should be delisted.
Hosts are well aware that there are bad hosts out there, and outright scammers, just as there are guests like that. Bad hosts give Airbnb a bad name, which affects all of us. And most of us actually like our guests. 🙂 We don't like hearing that guests are being screwed over by a dishonest, disrespectful, or scamming host.
For Airbnb to work as intended, it needs to be a symbiotic relationship of mutual trust and respect between hosts and guests, not an adversarial one.
Thank You Sarah! Yes the title Guest vs Hosts is satyrical and I agree with you.
Best!
@Mary4772 Oh, I understood your post title was about ratios of guests/hosts who post here, not that guests and hosts are enemies.
I was just responding to your comment that "hosts generally side with hosts". I would hope that we all side with whoever has a valid issue, regardless of which end of the booking process we are on.
Of course, hosts naturally have a better understanding of what goes into hosting than guests who have never been hosts do. And vice versa.
Like when guests ask what the cleaning fee is for if they are expected to do their own dishes before checking out, as if that's all that goes into cleaning an Airbnb.
When hosts respond to a guest post like that, listing off about 25 cleaning chores that go into cleaning for an Airbnb, that take 2-3 hours to complete, guest responses tend to fall into 2 categories. The ones who say "Thank you for explaining. I guess I never considered all that because I've never personally cleaned a house from top to bottom at one go" (your 'It's always good to be able to listen to people that have contrasting views in order to navigate your blind spots' attitude), or the response is refusal to try to understand- "I don't care. If I pay a cleaning fee, I'm not doing any chores, even washing my dirty dishes".
To which hosts will generally respond something like, "Then it would be best if you stick to hotels, as you don't seem to understand the Airbnb ethos".
Most hosts just expect guests to wash their dishes, bag up the garbage and tidy up their personal mess. Which takes about 15 minutes of actual work. If a guest objects to that, I would take the host's side.
If a guest gets hit with a lengthy list of check-out chores that take far longer than that to complete and weren't mentioned in listing ad, I would take the guest's side.
I have never personally been a guest, but I do have a sense of fairness.
@Mary4772 Most, if not all, of the people who post here on a frequent basis are hosts, because it is more relevant to hosts to know of various Airbnb changes in policies, how existing policies are typically enforced or not by Airbnb staff. Guests who post here are usually here for 1 specific issue/incident that they are asking for information/assistance about, once their issue is resolved, they have no more need or interest in the forum. Also, as someone else said, a number of hosts are also guests, and this is how the forum usually finds out about various guest questions and screens have been altered, so it is incredibly helpful as a host.
Thanks Mark!