@Rebecca , Hello everyone, I'm Vincent from Mombasa, Kenya. ...
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@Rebecca , Hello everyone, I'm Vincent from Mombasa, Kenya. I'm a new host here at Airbnb and I'm happy to be amongst the com...
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Just wondering if other hosts are experiencing this and how you're handling it.
Obviously, anyone initiating a booking after March 14th is well aware --super aware -- that they are making plans in the middle of a global pandemic. As such, obviously there are risks (duh). We are all living in a time of great uncertainty. It's actually hard for me to understand why anyone would book any travel at all during this time, unless it's for emergency travel.
We are in NYC. We have had a surprising number of people booking vacations here lately. Bizarre, because nothing is open except some limited outdoor dining -- no museums, no theater, no nightclubs, no tourist attractions. What are these people thinking?
Anyway, we are so strapped for income since the pandemic began -- and since Airbnb decided not support hosts during this crisis - so if someone wants to book with us and if they agree to all our house rules and our cancellation policy -- and if they don't have any bad reviews -- we're not turning them away. Of course, we do all the enhanced cleaning.
NY State initiated a travel advisory about 2 1/2 months ago, which is updated literally every few days. It is public. Easy to find on a simple internet search. (Would you book travel during a worldwide crisis without doing a quick search first? Who would do that?)
Anyway, we are having a rash of people cancelling and demanding full refunds. We always apologize but refer them to Airbnb Support. We tell them that we will abide by Airbnb's decision in case Airbnb decides that their situation fits into the Extenuating Circumstances policy. Generally, these cancellations do not fit. Even when it's crazy last minute, we (graciously IMO) offer them penalty free alterations to any date in the future, as long as we're available and as long as their new dates meet our minimum and maximum stay durations. Sometimes, the date change happens. Fine. We even give them our current pandemic era reduced prices for future dates, knowing that we might be back up to full rates by then. Some people are fine with that. But, it's shocking how many dig into hard core guilt tripping. Hey, we lost almost all our income since March. They took a risk for the cost of one vacation. And most importantly, they absolutely agreed to our cancellation policy when they booked. So, why all the guilt tripping?
And Airbnb seriously makes it worse. In virtually every canned message to guests about these sorts of (or all?) cancellations, they specifically suggest that the guests ask the hosts for a full refund. Why??? So, Airbnb makes the host into the bad guys. Why doesn't Airbnb back us up?
This has become quite unpleasant. Not to mention that the constant bickering style messages from the guests is taking many many hours of time. I hate this.
Times are hard for everyone. Why are hosts suddenly scapegoated? Not fair.
Ha ha ha -- I LOVE that. Thank you for making me laugh! I needed that. And now I have some new old classic films to add to my quarantine Netflix list LOL.
Big greetings from Brooklyn to you!
@S14 And from FiDi to you! I got out to Brooklyn on Sunday - drove out and picked up my daughters in Park Slope and went to the Botanic Garden. So good to be back there!
I understand where a host is coming from completely. However I reached out to our host prior to booking to ask about canceling due to covid-19. The response the host gave was that if covid-19 or any stay at home order, quarantine, etc was in effecting our stay, that a full refund would be provided. That was exactly what I needed and appreciated. Well, I reached out to request for a refund this week and he is now saying that was only related to air travel and not anything else. Which is not what our message said. I think this is just rude and his message was misleading. I have reached out to AirBnb for support and they haven’t got back to me in the last 24 hours. I really would be interested to see your opinion on this and if I am in the wrong.
@Sam3872 -- I actually agree with you! I feel that the host should stand by what they promised to you. If they made a mistake, well they need to pay for their mistake, not you! That's my opinion -- and I'm the host who started this thread.
@Sam3872 Yeah, totally agree with @S14, the host lied to you and liars suck. That's the worst. I didn't tell any guests they'd get anything back, I just promised to try to refund as much or all of the 50% by rebooking the cancelled dates. It turned out I re-booked all the dates and everyone got their money back. We all took a chance on one another and it worked out.
Yes, I ALWAYS offer to reschedule the trip. But either cancelling or rescheduling only work when the guests follows through and does it, initiates the change or cancellation. They are waiting until the last minute after messaging me like a week in advance that they are not coming. I am stuck in limbo.
@Sam3872 Of course it's not acceptable for either a host or a guest to say they will do something and then renege on it.
Just understand, though, that it really isn't fair to a host for a guest to wait until the last minute to cancel because they were holding out hope that they'd still be able to travel. All is quite uncertain presently as to how things change day-by-day regarding the virus directives, which is neither the guests' nor the hosts' fault, so to be fair, guests should decide one way or another whether to keep their booking at least a couple of weeks before the travel date and not keep a host's calendar blocked only to cancel too late for them to get another booking.