Two for One Problem

Kelly149
Level 10
Austin, TX

Two for One Problem

Dearest Hosts, can you help me put to rest or better solve a problem (or tell me if you think it is unsolvable in this Covid era)??

 

 

Problem One, please tell me what you think this means:

 

In an abundance of caution, we are making the barn available primarily to single household groups traveling independently. If you are a group made up of multiple households or your visit to Austin includes extended visits with people outside your household or if your travel includes public transport (airplanes) then please discuss with owners to see if your trip can be accommodated (this may require higher cleaning fees or purchasing days before or after your stay as a buffer).

 

 

Problem Two: I'm not sure if it is participating in CC or the collection of guests we've had or the moving target of ABB expectations or my personal predilection to perfectionism, but such a high percentage of guests are a problem that hosting is more dread than joy. Even the money doesn't seem to outweigh the ninnys. So, ideas?? Turn off IB, turn off listing (this may happen on ABB in a week when I don't sign Cleaning thingy, but we'll still be on Vrbo), shorten listing, lengthen listing, take less guests....

 

I look forward to your suggestions!

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@Francesco1366 You are very naive in thinking that all hosts who signed up for the Enhanced Cleaning are actually following it. 

@Emilia42 , I am happy to be the main attraction of this community. I'm not an idiot! You are very naive in thinking that all hosts who NOT signed up for the Enhanced Cleaning are actually following it! But now I don't understand what you think. You just want to humiliate. I will fight and I will win 🤣 Or you can consider me a human as you and not a seal in the circus. Thank you! In any case, I enjoy a lot.

@Francesco1366 Main attraction? Okay, sure.

 

And that is exactly my point. It's very likely that hosts are going to clean however they are going to clean, regardless of whether or not they have signed up for the Ecnahcned Cleaning. You never truly know and can never assume. 

@Emilia42,

 

You have added a new part to your comment. Obviously we can never know. I agree with you. But strange you think that all hosts who NOT signed up for the Enhanced Cleaning are actually following it. More strange if you think the same about hosts telling they don't want to respect and want to leave airbnb. Please, let me think different. Thank you!

@Francesco1366 I don't think that and never said that. I think the hosts who have NOT signed up for it are being honest and realistic. I don't think there is anything wrong with a host questioning their relationship with Airbnb based on changes in policies. We have seen this many times before. 

@Emilia42 

 

I agree with you. It seemed strange to me, you replied that it was exactly your point. Again, I absolutely agree with you. Moreover, we have all to try not to consider naive someone about stupid things that he never said.

 

Even if you disagree, please let me think that those who don't want to accept, as many have written in other posts, probably don't want to respect that rules. It seems reasonable to me. You are not the cops who must defend the Super Host. He will be able to answer when he prefer also about the cleaning based on guests habits. It seems to me better this way for everyone. But please continue as you prefer. I enjoy exchange comments with you.

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Emilia42 Also naive to think that the Airbnb cleaning protocol has anything to do with them caring about COVID safety. It's all about them not getting bad press if guests start claiming they got COVID from an Airbnb. And putting all the blame on hosts. 

 

@Francesco1366  No one here thinks hosts are all cleaning to COVID standards, whether they sign up for the cleaning protocol or not. And "naive" doesn't mean the same thing as idiot, by a long shot. There's plenty of really smart people who are naive regarding certain things. 

I think you enjoy arguing? And taking offense where none is intended.

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@Sarah977 Exactly. And by switching the "24-hour buffer" to optional, you can clearly see how much of it is profit-driven. 

Ok. I'm naive. You are Genius. @Emilia42 @Sarah977 . The cleaning responsibility is host responsability! Not Airbnb! Not Guest! Not Pino! And who told you that I don't think there are other reasons? Who told you? Super Genius, you catch my thoughts from my phone. 

 

I'm not arguing. I'm replying to your annoying comments where you imagine things I didn't say and you consider me an idiot. I'm naive to think of something an idiot would think. But they are two different words. Thanks a lot, I didn't know

@Francesco1366  You really like to accuse your peers of calling you an idiot, when absolutely none of them has ever done such a thing!

 

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

@Anonymous 

 

You really like sensational answers! Here the proof! I think it would be better to discuss other things, however I explain again more precisely.

 

I thought you weren't so distracted (could I use naive?) not to notice or understand this very interesting point of view. Thinking that everyone respects those rules is idiotic. I think most of you basically agree: at least naive enough to be out of touch with reality. I realize now that Emilia certainly thought differently. So if someone tells me that I am naive to think something idiotic, it seems to me that he has told me that I am an idiot. 

 

If you want to talk more about this topic or similar, I will send the link of my personal community where everyone is talking about me. It's better to talk there. You will find many who believe me an idiot ... ah sorry, naive.

 

Thank you

 

p.s. 

I don't understand what you mean with "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" . I think the entire your comment is useless and provocative. Not unlike mine. We are equal. I love you. Love me and let's finish here the titanic debate. Good luck.

Thank you very much @Jessica-and-Henry0 . I could say the same @Anonymous, @Sarah977 and @Emilia42

 

Are you all really sincere in defending Super Host who writes here? Are you sincere to believe that the person who will not accept security protocols will follow them? Or are you just influenced by a photo and reviews?

 

Were you sincere in defending a person who rents an home without knowing the road conditions in winter? Would you do the same? Or were you just conditioned by the fact that he was an host and must be defended?

 

Sorry, I like to joke. Below another much more modern and vulgar quote that I modify a lot to make it suitable.

 

«I've seen things you in the community wouldn't believe,
guests who have sublet homes to illegal restaurant workers in the area,

I watched  very dangerous Super Hosts just because they felt really super,

truly free thoughts in on-line places where photos and personal information are prohibited.
All those moments will be lost in this community,
like tears in rain.

Time to not care»

Kelly149
Level 10
Austin, TX

@Jessica-and-Henry0 @Emilia42 @Anonymous @Sarah977   well, that went off the rails didn't it... Looping back to where we started, I see now that my original problem here is that I want to charge one reasonable rate for lovely people and I have no problem with them reading, agreeing and booking all at once. And then I MIGHT be inclined to host marginally tolerable people with a slightly higher 'you appear to be a potential problem' rate after a back and forth where we both had an understanding of what was and wasn't on offer. (and then I never want to host the true problem guests at any price.)

So, once a year or so I forget that there is no way to differentiate the lovely people from the not so lovely people and that I just have to price the listing for yahoos and move on accordingly. This bothers me in that I'd be happy to charge less to lovely people, but unfortunately, there is no filter available for this and thus I must just carry on pricing out the riff-raff all the while knowing that perhaps I lose out on some lovely people in the meantime, but it is what it is.

Thank you for your input.

 

Let's meet back here on Saturday to see what the world looks like after the 20th!

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