I am now already in a +10 day discussion with Airbnb on an i...
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I am now already in a +10 day discussion with Airbnb on an issue of blocked days that are being switched to 'active' in the c...
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Hi there! I need to speak to somebody urgently.
My present guest should have left by now and I have somebody else coming any time.
I went into her room and I found her unresponsive, sleeping and the room in a mess. I think she has urinated herself.
I have another guests in the house and I need to get her out quietly and fast. Also, there are damages to my property.
Can I, please have a phone no. of somebody I can contact in Ireland?
The last 3 days have been a nightmare and I am at breaking point and in an impossible position
Please help!
she doesn't have to say the whole truth to neighbors, she can simply tell her guest was feeling sick or survived an attack or whatever
So Olivia, you're saying that the guest was a third party booking, Airbnb will probably wash their hands of it.
You're part of the Airbnb cannon fodder community suck it up, I'd loved to box Brian Chesky ears and give him a good talking to, it gone beyond ridiculous, it appalling what host are expected to put up with.
Most probably he will say that the host didn't check the identity of the guest and if it matches to the name on the reservation and that host let her in at her own risk, because third party bookings are not allowed.
@Olivia373 I agree with the advice from @Branka-and-Silvia0 ; that's a good guideline for how to get through the process of recouping some of your damages.
One thing I'm still not clear on is whether you've been able to get directly in touch with an Airbnb rep. I know most of your time today was consumed with this crisis, but we are only peers in your community and don't have the capacity to answer for their end of things. The phone number that was provided to you by earlier is still your best starting point - even if it means being on hold for awhile.
Have you resolved the situation with the guests that were scheduled to arrive today? It's important to make sure they have gotten their refund and are able to book elsewhere. Everything else can wait until tomorrow.
The best thing you can do for the moment: as others have said, snooze your listing, take some time to calm down, rest, and collect yourself; you've been through an ordeal. I'll mention a few frustrations you'll need to be prepared for, but please read below only after you feel ready for it:
1. There is no "deposit" collected on bookings like these, so there is no amount of money that you're guaranteed. Rather, you have to request compensation via airbnb.com/resolutions . First the request goes to the guest; if it's not accepted within 72 hours it will be reviewed by an Airbnb rep, who will require all applicable receipts and evidence as @Branka-and-Silvia0 described.
2. Since third-party bookings are prohibited, this booking might not meet the criteria for coverage under the "host guarantee."
3. With these things in mind, your best recourse might turn out to be either (a) a claim on homeowner's insurance that extends to short-term rentals or (b) a small-claims suit against the guest for damages in excess of whatever payout you can squeeze out of Airbnb. This is all assuming that your listing (which looks lovely, by the way) was fully above-board and legal in your jurisdiction. If it wasn't, you should go ahead and remove it before your neighbors make trouble for it.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of unpleasant news, but if you read through these forums you'll see there are many hosts who have been through similar troubles and worse. It's not to say that things are all bad with Airbnb - most stays go by perfectly fine, and you got very unlucky here - but the devil is in the details. As you prepare your claim, this would be a good time (albeit 1 guest too late) to read carefully through the terms of service and get up to speed on how all of this works.
Wishing you all the best in this difficult time, and I hope that with a little help from your friends you can quickly make your home feel safe and comfortable again.
Thank you very much to every body. It is a lot of information to take in and I will have to go back to it when I am over the shock, but I did not want to go to bed without thanking you for your support, generosity, advice and, for been there putting up with me when I panicked. I love you guys! I would be lost without you. Thanks again! XXX
You wrote..
"So, as it stands, I am now drained, exhausted after 3 days of hell, with a broken house and a broken heart, a damaged reputation and much worse of financially than if I have never rented at all and I badly needed the income"
Having been through similar (and even worse!) situations with Airbnb guests on more than one occasion - including having every single room in my entire 3 storey house ransacked by an Eastern European group who staged a burglary, then threatened to destroy me with Airbnb and all over the internet if I didn't refund their entire group of 12 for their 10 day stay, plus comepensate them for their "distress" - I can fully understand how devastated you must be feeling.
I vividly remember sitting alone on my bedroom floor at 3am, amongst my broken furnture, with my most intimate and precious personal effects - including my underwear and my sons' old baby pics, school reports and Mother's Day cards - ripped and strewn all over the place, with the wind and rain whistling through my smashed windows, and Airbnb unresponsive. I sat there for hours, sick to my stomach and sobbing my heart out, waiting for the forensics officer and a glazier to come, and swearing to myself that I would never, ever rent my home out on Airbnb again.
The guests - unbelievably - were a national sports team, here to represent their country at the World Championships in their field. And yes, the neighbours were out in force, with their eyes on stalks, to witness the furious showdown in the street between myself and the 6'6" tean svengali (I'm 5'2"), with the other 11 team members and my two lovely cab drivers, Jimmy and Robbie, also caught up in the melee. (Probably the most excitement our very quiet residential street has seen for many a long year!) So I totally get how mortified you must be right now.
Not a scenario I'd wish on my worst enemy. Like you, I badly needed (was dependant on) the income, and at the time, it felt like the end of the world, and I couldn't see how the situation could possibly be salvaged. But salvage it I did, and hopefully, you can too.
Firstly, have a good old cry. Maybe throw in a few shouts, screams and roars to release a bit of steam (even if you have to go down the fields to do it, so the neighbours don't have you down as a complete lunatic altogether!). Then have a looong sleep, when the exhaustion and shock finally take their toll. Once you've got all that out of the way, you'll be much better able to start getting things back on track.
You've had some great advice here from some excellent contributors about the practicalities of trying to claim for damages etc, so I won't add to that. My advice to you though - which won't be popular, but could potentially save you a lot of further time, energy, stress and grief in fighting a battle with Airbnb CX that you're highly unlikely to win - is... muster up every ounce of strength you have, accept what's gone, swallow the losses, get stuck into the clean-up, replace/restore your damaged items as cheaply and quickly as possible, understand that you're on your own when it comes to Airbnb and that you - and you alone - are in control of guest behaviour in your home.
Next, scour the T&Cs, have a long read through this forum and others to fully inform and educate yourself on all the realities of hosting on the Airbnb platform, and honestly re-evaluate whether it's a financially and/or emotionally viable option for you. After all that, if you do conclude it's worth continuing, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, grow balls of steel, and start all over again. It can be done, if you set your mind to it.
Whether or not you do carry on hosting, your most pressing concern at the moment is actually your neighbours. From what I can gather, you're relatively new in town yourself, and from their (understandable) current perspective, you're a recent arrival, who's brought trouble and drama to the neighbourhood already. Yes, small-town Ireland can often seem like a cold, judgemental, unforgiving place - "valley of the squinting windows", as we call it - and the locals do love a good gossip (takes the focus off their own shortcomings!).
By and large though, they're good, decent people, and if you make the effort to fit in and to be a willing, productive member of the community, you'll find that they soon accept - and protect - you as one of their own. The key word there being "you" (Contrary to Airbnb's airy-fairy "Belong Anywhere" rhetoric, nobody actually has a god-given right to just pitch up to an established community and expect to be instantly accepted - in the real world, the right to belong, and to be accepted, has to be earned)
So as soon as you've recovered a bit, get yourself out there, knocking on doors. Be open, honest and friendly - no need to give your lifestory, just the basics will do - apologise profusely and explain that you're new here, just trying to get on your feet, you realise you screwed up badly, and you're taking every possible step to ensure that such a debacle never happens again. Let's be honest here - there aren't many Irish people who at one point or another, haven't had to deal with a friend or family member in similar dire straits to your poor unfortunate guest, so you might be surprised to find people a lot more understanding of what transpired than you'd expect, and even appreciative that you dealt with the young lady in such a sympathetic, compassionate manner, despite the consequences and inconvenience for yourself.
If you can bake, a few nice warm buns or scones as gifts for the neighbours would probably go a long way to getting you back in the good books! They'll respect you for having the guts to be upfront with them, probably invite you in for a cup of tea to go with the scones, and you'll very likely find yourself making a few new friends (and allies!) Every cloud... 😉
Anyway Olivia, hope you're feeling a bit better today. If you still need to talk, or I can be of any help, PM me on here and I'll send you my number. In the meantime, best of luck with getting everything sorted.
@Susan17 wrote:If you can bake, a few nice warm buns or scones as gifts for the neighbours would probably go a long way to getting you back in the good books! They'll respect you for having the guts to be upfront with them, probably invite you in for a cup of tea to go with the scones, and you'll very likely find yourself making a few new friends (and allies!) Every cloud... 😉
A well-made scone, with or without homemade preserves, goes a long way towards fixing much of what is wrong with the world.
Fruit scones, just out of the oven, and melting butter - heaven on a plate!
Full disclosure - I'm no baker though, so mine are either from a packet, or the bakery around the corner 😉
Thank you for your long response. You have come a long way and I am glad it worked out well for you. You have proven to be a Superhost. Its very encouraging for a newbee like me to read through this forum and learn from these - albeit troubling - experiences. And although Airbnb might not be as responsive as some might wish them to be - this forum certainly is. Hope to be able to provide guidance or feedback some day as well.
Hope you get back on your feet soon! Its been a shattering tour de force. Maybe your guest has been very hard hit in her life and their family thought it best to give her some space. Hopefully nothing was done intentionally. Like Susan I would approach your neighbors with your head high. No one is above human misery and I am sure after a little nudge people will lean in and be supportive. You seem like a nice and emphatic person. Your neighbors will take notice.
Its also been a full moon, something people on my side of this world are very aware off, take it as a learning experience. There is always something to learn. You are up and healthy. Take a deep breath and continue your journee.
Happy Thoughts to Irland! Beautiful country, amazing people.
@Susan17 You're a legend and the "Superhost" title doesn't do justice to the real work you do for your guests as well as the hosting community.
@Anonymous
Just saw this now. Absolutely made my day! Coming from a host (and poster!) of your calibre, I'll take that as a massive compliment! Means a lot to me.
Thank you! 😉
Villages and small towns are the same all around the world.
Just go ahead. You will be the "black sheep"of the community for some time. Every community needs a black sheep. The good news is, that very soon you will be replaced. This is the last position. Nobody can always be the last. Something will happen- a fight in the pub, accident somewhere, somebody will get drunk and will kill his neighbor, or beat his wife, again the police will come, the ambulance, someone will suicide or will make fire...That's the way life goes.