stressful guest-requesting full refund

stressful guest-requesting full refund

last month I have experienced a very stressful guest.  It was the first guest in the property and I might have made the mistake to tell her this.  I told them that the dishwasher was not working however I will be happy to send someone to clean the plates at their  request (I cannot fix the AC since it is under warranty and the approved engineer only comes up from the mainland once a month)

 

they checked in on monday 2000 and I called them to make sure all was well (since the property is self checkin)  they said all is well and love the house.

 

the following morning at 900 I received a message saying they had no hot water, I sent my father 2 hours later to see the problem.  It seems that the element for the solar power was tripping the electricity (this was working 2 days before) however they all agreed that the solar powered water was enough.  

At 1900 I received another call that the water is still not working (the element) so sent an electrician at 730 the next morning (after agreeing this is the best time for them).  the electrician found the fault however I had to resolve to the OEM, which came on site at 0900 hours and resolved the issue by 1000.  

 

At 1400 I received another call staying that the roof was collapsing (this is a recent renovated property) I was shocked so I sent another engineer to give them a piece of mind.  To his understanding the guest was trying to remove the plaster herself.  2 hours later I received another call stating that the water tap is not seating properly and waster was seeping out of that bath into the drain, so I sent the plumber to check and fix this.

 

I called airbnb to ask them to contact the guests and see how I could help further and ask them if they would like to relocated into another more suitable property, I asked the guests the same but they declines, Airbnb never contacted the guests.

 

On Friday I received an image that the washing machine torn her bra and that the washing machine is all mouldy and now we need to discuss the price they paid.  I asked them to identify an appropriate discount and they came up with 50%, I was shocked, so I called airbnb to ask them to contact the guests again and see how I could improve, I told them that I would be happy to refund the guests for one night, but I would like the guests to leave since they are clearly not happy with the property.  Airbnb did not contact the guests, and the guests did not want to leave.

 

On Sunday at 645 I received a call that the flushing was leaking a bit of water and it was wasting water and could not flush.  this is a 5 toilet property, so I send an engineer who said it had nothing.  

 

The guests never contacted airbnb, until checkout where they opened a dispute for a full refund stating more issues with the property, which I did not know of, like broken garden furniture (which they broke), dirty pool (it had some dust from the have winds during their stay-I sent the pool guy twice during their visit), broken glass (which they broke 4 glasses) and the other issues mentioned above.  Of course I declined the refund and escalated, based on the fact that since they were so unhappy with the property they should informed airbnb earlier as per 24 hour policy.  I also got a negative review as per profile.

 

Airbnb resolution contacted me stating that they have resolved the issue giving a total payout of 22% this means that the guest got an 80% refund, I did not even cover my expenses.  I called airbnb customer care to explain the issue and after 15 mins on the line Michael from the call centre reviewed the case and said "it seems the case was mishandled and I will be reviewing the case again I think the guest should only get a refund for the day they has no amenities"  I asked him if he could send this in writing and said it should not be a problem 24 hours on no message.

 

I have rented the property in the same state multiple times now and had wonderful reviews.  How should I proceed?

8 Replies 8
Marie82
Level 10
New South Wales, Australia

@Christina509 , sorry to hear that, my only advice if an issue like that arise and guests make many many calls for diff issues with the properties, don't ask guests about relocation I just ask ABB to relocate them immediately I don't ask guests opinion in that time as they know deep them they will stay and after make a claim and have money back, to avoid such always ask ABB to immediately relocated them so u can deal with repairs.  If a guest calls me 2 times during their stay for an issue I know will impact their stay I ask ABB to relocate them asap. 

 

I never keep guests after 2 big repairs any points as u will get a bad review and 99% of the cases they will request money back after their trip so u won't win in any scenario anyway. I better to loose I have the issues fix when the house is empty

@Marie82 I have asked abb to help guests relocate but they did nothing considering I solved the issue in the first 48  hours, other issues were minor and where only mentioned after they left.  In total abb refunded them 2000 usd which is unfair+I still got the negative review. 

Kira32
Level 10
Canary Islands, Spain

Hi @Christina509 ,

 

 

Most things are easy to fix but when guests are already at the location and something needs to be fixed then guests can feel like someone  invaded their privacy. Even when it's something minor like swapping a light bulb can be annoying for guests. 

 

Quick tip;

 

《Every once in a while it is good to stay at the place you rent out to really notice anything that needs to be fixed or cleaned》

 

Kira♡

 

 

Many thanks @Kira32 @, I understand that the guest were not happy but do you agree that they get the rental for almost free? I did stay in the property a day before and cleaned it myself

Hi @Christina509,

 

Of course I agree with you, you have every right to be pissed off because you lost money there and of course  things break.  **bleep** happens..... 

 

I learned from your experience. If this would happen to me I would probably give them a reasonable refund before they even be thinking about getting refund trough airbandb. 

 

Keep on mailing and calling the Michael from the call center, who said that your guests only should get refund for days that things weren't functioning. 

 

Don't give up

 

Kira♡

Marie82
Level 10
New South Wales, Australia

@Christina509  when guests want the money back any small issue suddenly become a big issue, ABB Support is busy during summer season never wait for them to get back to u, call them none stop if u have an issue and need a fast outcome, it is time-consuming but worth when u have issue like this one. 

Branka-and-Silvia0
Level 10
Zagreb, Croatia

@Christina509

It is very suspicious how everything was well before their arrival and then suddenly the house is falling apart.

it seems to me they did most, if not all, the damages by themselves in order to get a refund. And they succeded.

 

As someone else said - 2 issues and out! We have to repair.

 

 

 

@Christina509  .. I agree with @Branka-and-Silvia0  .. I've heard a lot from other hosts about guests who try to scam the system, and once they are in a unit they come up with several things wrong with it and try to get their money back after their stay... sounds like this may have been the case. 

 

Definitely next time try to relocate them rather than try to please them. The fact that they were saying THAT many things were wrong with the unit is a red flag for them looking for refund. 

 

Best of luck!

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