I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a st...
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I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a strict 4pm checkin time & they showed up at 2:15 saying they chose ...
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Anyone has a cream for that? Another four star and I am infuriated! She left a glowing review and all fives in categories. In private feedback she told me 1. She could not figure out how to lock the door so every time they left house was unsecured. There is a button with a picture of a lock on the pad. I showed it to her at check in. We talked during her stay, she never mentioned it. 2. When she first arrived, she put so much in the fridge it took a while for it to cool down. It is a domestic refrigerator, not a magic ice box. I know some people are just never happy and some just think four stars is very good. I know I am lucky she did not write anything bad. But this review thing should not be so stressful. I was looking at hotels in Kansas city, MO the other day and their highest rated is Intercontinental at 4.2 stars.
@Inna22 I am with you! I ask the return of a blender top that the guest took and got 4 stars on 5 as retaliation... even if the review itself is great! Grrrrrr!!!
@Veronique271 4 star is considered a retaliation? That is fortunate to get a 4 star while you requested compensation of missing item.
A retaliatory review I got was a lone star.
@Inna22 two things:
1. On Vrbo, reviews exist but aren't the big nightmare that ABB turns them into
2. count the money and move on - Guests can't help it that ABB has created a ridiculous system and you can't solve stupid
oh, and 3. go in and block this guest so she can't ever come back
I read a post from another host saying how she asked for the review. So, I post a thank you for choosing Casa Birdsong and a personal appreciation for them leaving our Casa neat and clean. Then go on to tell them that, after your stay Airbnb will send you an e-mail prompting you to take the time to leave a review of Casa Birdsong while your experience is still fresh. 5***** will be great since Airbnb doesn't offer 6******. If you enjoyed the experience, tell all your friends and family. If you didn't please only share it with us. We care about our guests and strive to make your stay a memorable one. Enjoy the rest of your trip. We hope to see you again soon
@Mary-And-Jim2 yes, I send a similar message that I hope that they can leave five stars and if they have feedback for me. The problem is that some people consider four stars to be great but airbnb thinks it’s grounds for termination
@Inna22 The real issue is not that the guest gave you 4 stars. The real issue is that Air BNB rating system allows such a good review and good rating to be seen as a negative. Crazy! Your public review is positive so that is a good thing.
The problem with thick skin, IMO, is that one might not notice true valuable feedback that can lead to meaningful adjustment of your listing. I always greet all my guests because I need to introduce them to the resident dog. I am aware that much of what I try to provide as orientation to my rather simple listing is not really absorbed so I choose to emphasize the top couple of rules. When people are checking in they may be tired, irritated, need to pee, distracted and just wanting to get settled in. If you can perhaps the door lock orientation can be attended to a little later in the process. Just a thought.
@Inna22 Because of the fact that Airbnb tells guests that 4*s means "Good" and then turns around and threatens hosts for anything under 4.7 and strips Superhost for anything under 4.8, I think that hosts saying to guests that they hope they can leave 5*s or that the host strives to make the experience a 5* one doesn't necessarily achieve what we are trying to get across to guests.
Rather than taking that approach, I instead explain to guests how Airbnb applies the overall star rating on the host end. Most guests are shocked that Airbnb would lead them to think they were giving a Good rating and then turn around and penalize hosts for it. One guest said "OMG, thank you so much for telling me that. I gave the last 2 places I stayed a 4* overall, and they were fine places with a nice host where I'd definitely book again. I wish I'd known- I feel terrible to know I may have caused problems for them. Why would Airbnb mislead guests like that?"
Maybe I've just been lucky to get guests who are easy to please and appreciative and would have given 5*s anyway, but judging by that guest's response, I think not. In any case, I've never gotten less than a 5* rating, so I think that approach is effective. And for me, it's more comfortable to just give the facts, rather than somehow ask for a 5* review.
A similar approach could be extended to other things we'd like guests to do. For instance, "Please separate your reyclables into the correct bins" might be ignored, whereas "I will be fined $25 by the city if recyclable items are found in the garbage, so separating your recyclables into the bins provided will be much appreciated, otherwise I will have to don mask and gloves to paw through your garbage to separate it myself" might lead to more co-opèration.
@Sarah977 Because I don’t live there, there is really not a non-ackward way for me to start that conversation majority of the time. I read that one host put a big explanation in the house book and I contemplated doing that. But yes, your approach would’ve been ideal if I could implement it.
I've tried with a note in a house book and a few days later I got one couple who didn't read our listing and were unhappy in our studio. In her review, she wrote how she is surprised with our good reviews and she assumes we got it because of our rating explanation.
WTF? I removed it immediately!
I don't explain the rating to my guests. I don't even look at how they rated me. It is nice to have a priority phone line and 100$ voucher but I don't intend to kill myself over it.
@Sarah977I have just had that backfire on me, I have in my house guidebook a small section explaining that AirBNB require Superhosts maintain an average of 4.8 stars so a sub 5* is actually a bad rating etc.
I just had a 4 star review from another Superhost, the reason given - " Although the hand book was very useful I feel you are not entering in the true spirit of Airb&b by explaining the impact of ratings a guest gives, It actually makes you less inclined to give a high rating ." - so pretty much out of spite she rated me down. (5 stars given for all sub-sections, 4 stars overall)
@Niel3 Well that's unfortunate. But I read here all the time how other hosts are the hardest to please and how they seem to find things to criticize in others' listings and tend to not rate 5*s in general.
Sorry it backfired on you- like I said, my guests have thanked me for letting them know, and I have read other hosts saying that since they put something in the house manual about this, they've gotten higher star ratings.
So maybe this was just a one-off of how this particular guest reacted, rather than simply an idea that has a large possibility of backfiring.
@Niel3 Wow. People can be incredibly petty, but again, the 'folk wisdom' on this forum that hosting hosts is a losing proposition is born out. There is no reason why airbnb's rating system should not be accurately explained to guests so they understand that a 4 star is a poor rating, and that anyone with an actual 4.0 rating is going to be suspended if not delisted.
@Niel3 & @Sarah977 I'm with Niel here. In my early days of hosting I had a guest complain in the written review that I asked for a good review. So much of the time now, I don't mention it, fearing the consequences. But like Sarah, I SOMETIMES tell guests that we get a warning below 4.7 & can be de-listed below 4, or even 4+. Whether I mention it or not depends on my gut feeling about the guest, & my report with them during the stay; whether I think they will retaliate, or be sympathetic. I too have had guests horrified that what they thought was a good 4 is actually so devastating.
I'm shocked at your guest Niel, not very 'Super' - was she?
I don't know how long you host, we host for 3 years and I grow a thick skin recently. :))))
I just got 3* review from a group of guests I wrote a post about ( https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Help/How-to-recognize-a-bad-guest-at-a-first-glance-part-2/m-p/1... )
and like a few other guests before them they accused us of their own mistakes and twisted the truth.
We are professionals, we do this business for years. We hosted over 600 groups, so if something goes wrong it is either the guest's fault ( they didn't read, didn't think, are just plain stupid) or it was out of our control ( power shortage, weather, noise... ) It can't be that hundreds of guests enjoyed their stay and a few of them suffered in the same place (of their choice) with the same treatment.
So just forget them, they are unhappy with their lives in general, they are our customers, not our friends, it's just a business 🙂