I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a st...
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I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a strict 4pm checkin time & they showed up at 2:15 saying they chose ...
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Hi everyone,
I have had straight five star reviews and have just gotten a first "bad egg" guest who is listing untruths to demand a 50% refund for her stay. So far, she has requested one night out of a two night stay's refund with me directly and I have until tomorrow to respond before this could potentially be escalated to a case manager.
A few examples from a long list:
-Guest claimed only one towel was left when I have a photo of the two towels that we were both used over the two night stay.
-Claimed no shower amenities were left and I left both shampoo/shower gel.
-She was advised if she arrived at the typical check-in time of 4:00pm, she would pick up the apartment keys at a five minute walk away key cafe exchange and if she was able to check-in early before that time, she could come directly to the apartment and I'd show her in directly to avoid going to the key cafe. It was clear in my airbnb inbox email communication to her that she was going to come to my apartment directly because we set a (early) 12:30pm check-in time, however, she went to the wrong address to the key cafe. She was hostile and yelling at me on the phone "why did you tell me the wrong address" but settled down upon meeting me, apologizing verbally that she read through the emails and realizes she was in the wrong and it was her fault. Now, she claims in the request for the refund that once again I told her the wrong address.
-At 9:47am on airbnb email Saturday morning, the guest agreed to change my proposed (early!) check-in time from 12:15pm to 12:30pm as I asked for 15 minutes longer if it "made no difference" to her. She agreed no problem. She now claims that I did not tell her until 12:15pm that I wanted to change the time to 12:30pm and claims at that point she was "already in her lyft car" and had to pull over to a cafe until 12:30pm. I do have the back-up emails to show airbnb should we escalate to a claim center. My hope is that if they see she has clearly lied about already being in a car and pulling over - she claims i asked her "minutes before," not true, that they will see her other claims such as a shower head not working which is entirely untrue are also untruths.
-Claimed there were no covers on the pillows, there are pillowcases. Just so odd. The guest really made up a laundry list of untrue claims.
-Even though it was not my error, since the guest went to the wrong address at check-in, I wanted to make check-out very easy so I offered instead of a 10am listed check-out, a late check-out until 2pm and if the guest could advise what time she was leaving, based upon the time she could conveniently leave the keys inside the apartment or under the mat outside (I have a neighbor lined up to collect key under mat but it depended on the time and I never heard from the guest on her check-out time, or any email with any of these complaints during the entire stay for that matter. If the shower head was truly not working, which it was of course, wouldn't you reach out with a question on how to work it? Also there was a claim wifi didn't work, which is also false, however, she never reached out about that during the entire stay. She claimed the checkout was unprofessional that I said she could leave keys inside or under the mat. I've never heard of anyone complaining due to trying to accommodate and make things easier for a guest...
I used the same cleaner and laundromat the weekend before the guest for another guest and got a five star "amazing," "clean apartment" review. Do I refund the cleaning fee to show airbnb I am trying to work things out (even if a lying guest) to when it's escalated to a case manager as I have to assume it will be?
Or, do I bite the bullet and give the half refund even if I could still get a bad review?
Do I point out the inaccuracies to the guest and ask for clarification i.e. attach the email at 9:47am agreeing to the 12:30pm 15 minute later check-out time?
I appreciate advise on how I respond to the guest.
Best,
MG
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Good morning, if you have proof that her claims are false let it escalate. Give that info to Airbnb and wait for their response. Be sure to write a fair and accurate review so other hosts know what they are getting into. My experience with Airbnb tells me they err on the side of the guest more often than not...likely no way to avoid the inevitable bad review but at least you have facts to respond to the review with... as well as a slew of other good reviews to back up your claims.
Unfortunately it happens. For my own knowledge was this someone new to the platform?
thank you, this was a guest who had several positive reviews in the past.
Wow! Actually looking back, I am incorrect, this guest joined airbnb in August 2019 and has ZERO reviews. Wow, so you would think she would be more careful given she is going to be out of luck if I leave a negative review and she has zero positive reviews to balance it out with. Hmmmm....yeah, usually I do look for only accepting guests with positive reviews and this slipped by. It was a good booking for me seemingly.
Ignore her request. Open a preemptive ticket with CS detailing things mentioned here. Write her an honest review. If she posts a review bomb, reply to it detailing things mentioned here. Appeal for removal of vindictive review on open ticket and wait to see what happens.
@Melissa1011 I'm wondering why, after all the problems with her check in, did you again open yourself up to mix ups and problems by giving her a late check-out?
I would not refund her a dime, she seems like a chronic complainer and liar who also may not be too bright as she doesn't seem able to remember simple instructions and conversations. She will be able to review you either way, so you can lose money and get a bad review or just get a bad review.
I would also contact airbnb and get them involved to try and safeguard against them giving her a refund. They will often, for whatever reasons, give guests refunds even when the communication on their own platform proves that the guest is not being accurate, so getting your side to them first can't hurt.
True point on the late check-in, this just shows how bullied I felt and how scared I was of getting a bad review even if unjust. She had yelled in a hostile manner when going to the wrong address albeit her error.
@Melissa1011 So, there is a lesson there for the future. Rude, bullying people respond to graciousness and generosity by doubling down on the bullying. And this person is still bullying you to try and get a refund that they don't deserve. I would leave them the review they deserve, but keep it short and professional and don't mention anything about the airbnb case because that is grounds for them to delete it.
One thing that we do to protect ourselves from scammers is take a phone video sweep of the apartment before each guest. That way the state of the apartment, amenities, etc. are captured as a baseline. After the review or review period is over we delete the file.
Still struggling a little as it seems like airbnb looks for the host to have tried to resolve things with the guest first and so i feel bullied into refunding something even if nuts. Great idea on the video. I have a few photos including of the towels and I can attach them. Video seems even better. I have to believe that if I decline any refund, the guest will escalate. And if I give only some amount of the requested refund, the guest will still escalate, so I'm trying to see what sets me up in the best light with the case manager as I've been reading about many difficulties, though I hope airbnb will see this guest has zero reviews to back her up and this was her first stay.
@Melissa1011 Allowing yourself to feel bullied into agreeing to a refund just legitimizes the behavior of these kinds of horrible guests. Stay strong! Do not agree to any refund- why should someone be rewarded for lying?