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Due to tier 4 regulations just introduced in UK my Xmas booking guests say they must cancel due to extenuating circumstances, my policy is strict. They don’t wish to move their booking but are guilting me to agree a full refund, yet at this late date I may not get another booking & have left heating on and prepared the 5 bed property plus real Xmas tree, decorations & gifts for their arrival in a few days. What should I do?
That's really terrible, Kerry, but under the circumstances I think you should give a full refund. We've also had huge numbers of cancellations this year.
Anyway, Kerry, do have a good Christmas if you can.
Best wishes from Anthony
@Kerry26 I agree with @Anthony223 I am sorry for your situation, but these are tough times for everyone due to Covid-19. The pandemic is out of anyone's control, and they are truly unable to travel due to the UK restrictions. I'm sure they very much wanted to get away, and would not have canceled if they had a choice. Your good will will go a long way, and perhaps they will book with you in the future.
It seems like you are some distance from your listing, but do you not have somebody local who can go turn down the heat and deal with the Christmas tree?
Anyway, best of luck, and have a happy holiday. Kia
Thank you for your responses. I have managed to work with the guests to alter dates till next year for now, and discussed refunding what I can if/when we get other bookings. we are keeping in contact.
This is not ideal as it saddens me that I can’t be more generous at present but I had certain booking conditions.
We have not only been hard hit by Covid-19 regulation changes but also by big losses & damage caused by booked guests via Airbnb in Oct/Nov.
We have been feeling very let down by Airbnb who have not supported our compensation claims, nor managed matters efficiently & correctly yet still...
Our claim is valid & evidence submitted in time, but communication has been abrupt & confusing. Whilst I understand Airbnb has suffered chaos & loss also it is our first compensation claim of this kind, it has been disappointing & feels trust is broken due to the inadequacy of the resolution process.
Hosts should not be left with such huge losses & guests should not be supported if they fail to accept consequences of their abusive actions. .
We have a great emotional & financial investment in our old home, and have worked incredibly hard to provide a wonderful experience for guests.
Our property was abused, and now I have to resort to court to obtain compensation, plus we are selling the property after such circumstances.
a very sad outcome.
Hi @Kerry26
It's not about guilt tripping. The guests are not able to travel to you because our government's have introduced strict travel guidance.
You will be obliged to give them a full refund regardless of your policy.
Just let the guests know they can cancel siting Covid and confirm they are in Tier 4 and Airbnb will process their refund.
I would ask your local co-host to turn down/off the heating.
Although it was incredibly generous of you to leave a tree and presents this is not something guests would expect and fairly risky to pay for these in our current Covid climate.
Perhaps you could donate the presents and tree to a local children's home/refugee charity/homeless charity so they can go to someone in need?
@Helen3 Thank you for you response.
We were all firmly told by the Gov that Christmas was allowed with certain conditions & the bookings were appropriate to this or I would not have accepted the bookings, we believed it was viable to welcome guests hence why I ensured decorations & all preparations were in place as a special treat.
The SW of England has never been a high infection rate area & still remains a lower risk area.
My guests did not plan to be out and about other than in the grounds, woods & ordering takeaways.
The guests had all made plans to finally be with family who they hadn’t seen for this year so far following Gov guidelines for the previous months.
As we all know the introduction of a new tier was out of the blue...
Only one person was definitely trying to make me feel guilty, I am not harsh, just honest although I understand you see matters differently.
I was waiting for guidance from Airbnb & have followed the advice when it was offered later.
Other holiday let businesses have advised guests to rebook at a later date, plus offered total re funds only if they can get other bookings such as local guests or workers needing accommodation to use which is possible to self isolate in.
Ours is such a property as there is much separation & multiple bathrooms.
I shall now take my children there for Xmas as we are able to travel there due to travelling from tier 1 to tier 2 & now cannot afford a separate Tree, decorations etc otherwise.
As I have said in a previous response we could maybe have afforded the losses better but we were hard hit earlier when we had work /live guests who cost us thousands of pounds of losses & damages which still has not been resolved by Airbnb. We haven’t even received the guest deposit yet.
The property is a significant investment & we cannot support such losses, particularly this year as it has caused mortgage arrears, so it is being sold.
A certain amount of good will & trust between us & Airbnb is at risk. I do not wish to have long let’s or work/live let’s again as a result.
my other work as a flower farmer supplying and providing floristry design for weddings/special events/cafes/hotels/markets has also been hard hit with cancellations so I cannot support our holiday let business from this income as we have no profit this year despite working hard to diversify to survive & support my family.
I’m sure many other hosts have had a very difficult time also.
As a self employed single mother I work incredibly hard & Airbnb had always previously been a fantastic, supportive network. This year I have been disappointed to feel I am expected to be so generous & giving with little back up from the Gov for self employed people.
I have given much time, maintenance & repairs funds, flexibility, consideration, discounts, extras etc as well as experienced exhaustion achieving the Covid cleaning standards & yet still been giving away free flowers wherever I could to offer love & cheer those in isolation or worst financial difficulties.
Now I must look out for my children & myself as we have little financial or practical back up to keep us afloat. I have not been told by Airbnb that cancelled bookings merit full refunds yet? Where did you find that information?
I do understand I am in a similar situation to you as are many hosts around the world.
I was just explaining the position Airbnb is likely to take in terms of guests refunds as this has happened to me.
Airbnb sent out guidance to UK hosts a few weeks back and there’s also guidance on the Covid section on their website
Hi @Kerry26, welcome to the Community Center and I'm really sorry to hear about the issues you've had with hosting this year. All of your properties look lovely and I'm sure many a gust has enjoyed staying in them.
I saw that you mentioned that you had had a damage claim here which had not been resolved, so I chased this up with the Support team for you last week, and they have come back to confirm that you're now in contact with them on this, so fingers crossed they can help you with this.
I hope you had a lovely Christmas with your family 🙂
Thank you Katie.
yes hopefully being resolved.
@Helen3 You said 'You will be obliged to give them a full refund regardless of your policy.'
It is clear cut that a refund must be given if the host's property is in Tier 3 or 4 (ie can't host). The legal position on refunds is far less clear if a guest can't travel because they live in Tier 4.
Airbnb refunded my guests who are in Tier 3 and 4 and therefore can’t travel @Mike-And-Jane0
@Kerry26 @I have quite literally just had to cancel 2 bookings for Christmas and new year as here in Norfolk have just been moved to tier 4. Much of my rhetoric of late has been to try and convince guests to move dates to avoid any penalty fees, however I feel it’s not in my or a guests interest to do that, no matter how financially less off I’d be. Also Christmas has a much higher daily rate than any other time in the year, I couldn’t live with myself if I resorted to my strict cancellation policy and kept large amounts of money from my guest.
You can cancel penalty free by going to your reservations, choosing the guest and cancel due to Covid accordingly 🙂
This is so sad for you, @Kerry26 , and I am sorry that you are suffering these problems when you have been working so hard to look after your family single handed. Best wishes for a happy Christmas at the house and a better new year.
Bonjour. @Kerry26
What is the law and jurisprudence in your country ?
When i have a litigation, I base myself on :
1/ French law
2/ French case law
3/ the contract.
Airbnb must apply them for rentals in France.
In France , les arrhes (deposit) are usual for short term rentals.
It is due whatever the reason of the cancellation.
Covid was declared pandemic in march 2020 by WHO.
So guests know the risk when booking.
In France the law and common-law are clear.
However, host can refund if he agrees.
If not , deposit is due.
If Airbnb does not pay the host, the company and the guest can be sued.
I am very clear on that point with prospects before booking and i ask them to confirm they agree with the cancellation policy because there are travel restrictions which can impact their journey.
NO guest who cancelled asked to be refunded.
When guest shyly ask me if i would refund because they must cancel, i reply that the best i can do is to refund at the prorata temporise if a have a new reservation.
And i do it when i have a new reservation.
When things are clear from the beginning, it helps.
@Kerry26 Hi Kerry, its a shame but @Helen3 is right you have very little choice. My properties move into tier 4 at 0001 on 26/12/20 so I have spent most of the last three hours cancelling bookings on a number of platforms. It hurts I agree but having first hand family experience of this terible disease it is clear we have very little options but to support the UK government policy. (I just wish he would have a haircut) only joking!
Be Safe and Be Happy Best Regards Shaun