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Hello,
After lots of great experience with our guests and the services provided by AIRBNB we have now a very unfortunate case at hand.
Our guest left the premises ca 2 hours after check-in as the property did not have air-conditioning.
The property does not have and never had AC. Nor AC was never listed as an amenity in the house (this can be easily checked in IT AIRBNB systems).
To our great surprise, AIRBNB cancelled the reservation on our behalf the night between July 7-July 8 (at ca 12AM). We spent the all day on July 8 on the phone with AIRBNB to avoid the issues related to the host cancelling the reservation (e.g. automatic cancellation reviews). Our calendar was blocked the all day on July 8 till we manage to get through somebody and to get the "penalty" (?) lifted.
Now, since July 8 we have been calling AIRBNB and sending email to our "case manager" first trying to understand what happened and then just trying to get the full refund that we believe the guest/AIRBNB owe to us. No answers to our questions despite escalations (or attempted escalations).
Nothing.
Today (26 days later!) our "case manager" informed us that the guest provided a medical certificate that says that he is allergic to mosquito bites. This is how the case manager justify the "urgency" of cancelling the reservation on our behalf in the middle of the night.
Now, here is what we believe and what makes it unacceptable for us to understand the rational that AIRBNB is applying:
We believe that we have the rights to get fully paid for the week that was booked. What is your view? We read AIRBNB policies and conditions but we can not find the condition that AIRBNB applied in this case
AIRBNB cancelled the reservation of one of the most lucrative weeks of the year (we only rent out in summer to cover our costs) so we will not give up that easily on this. Your experience and opinion is much appreciated! Thanks in advance
Side note: the same guest did not return the keys and ended up leaving the keys 1 hour and 15 minutes away by car in a 4 star hotel. AIRBNB still unable to resolve the matter around this (very telling) guest behavior.
Thanks again!
Roberta, Nikolas & Marco
My sympathies are with you, @Nikolas--Roberta-and-Mar0. Holding the guest responsible for their choices is not the easiest thing to do. If the guest provides legitimate proof of an extenuating circumstance, the policy overrides the host policy. I cannot see what else you could have done.
i had the same experience with air bnb the guest stayed 5 days then complained it was an 18 day booking airbnb shaundra the case manager canceled the booking on my side and wont pay me the 5 days they stayed ...the issue was i offered limited acsess to my kitchen because the guests were un verified and booked by a third party ..shaundra said i should give full acsess no locks even when i am asleep..after two hours of resolution talks i agreed to give them full acsess ..shaundra cancelled and refused paymnt air bnb says i have no other avenue
Best never to assume your cancellation policy will be upheld, I take the view if that if a guest wants to work around it and tries hard enough they can.
@Athenian-House0, Roberta & Marco I am so sorry. You do not appear to be in the wrong at all; it is distressing as a host to repeatedly read these types of scenarios are occurring. A lot goes into hosting, not so much goes into booking a place without reading the listing.
Please continue to contact the company, though I know that is not an enjoyable experience nor use of your time. Apparently social media has been an avenue other hosts have suggested in order to be heard. I wish you much luck.
@Nikolas--Roberta-and-Mar0 - Please read the Extenuating Circumstances policy: https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/1320/what-is-airbnb-s-extenuating-circumstances-policy
Unfortunately, this is what qualified the guest for a refund. It definitely sucks because being "allergic to mosquito bites" is a ridiculous medical condition that, in my book, would not result in a refund. Was the guest never going to go outside the entire time they were in Amsterdam? We all know it is because of the Airconditioning - even Airbnb knows this I'm sure - but the guest provided proof that they could not stay in a home that was not 100% free of mosquitos, which means he's entitled to the refund.
Now for getting your funds back for having to retrieve the key! You have EVERY right to charge for your time, milelage, gas, wear and tear, and any alternative security you had to provide to your home while the key was gone from your possession and the guest had it. This will in no way come to the amount of money you've lost, but you can definitely be re-imbursed for this. What has Airbnb said about that?
Did Airbnb unblock the days the guest cancelled? Were you able to re-rent the space? It doesn't sound like you were, but I'm asking for clarity.
Hi Alice & Jeff,
Thanks for your extensive comment. We read the extenuating circumstances, but honestly still do not understand which claim is relevant in this case. He had allergy also when he booked, and there was never any air-conditioning. So all is as it was when booking.
To counter we are now getting medical documents that states it is perfectly safe for a person with mosquito allergy to sleep in a room with windows equipped with mosquito nets. We consulted medical experts on the topic. All bedrooms have professionally installed mosquito nets. (We never see mosquito's there, but installed it for the convenience of our guests). To your question, we were not able to rent out this high season week. Also, AirBnB so far has failed to return the key....to be continued.
Nikolas & Roberta
Listing seems to have been taken down but was not in Amsterdam.
I do not see a problem with charging, collecting is another issue.
For clarity, listing is available and is "fantastic villa on the beach" Baia santa Reparata, santa Teresa Gallura Sardinia. We have 5 star rating and many happy guests 😉
Unfortunately these days the guests are always right - more and more you can see this happening. Settiing themselves up for an IPO seems to be the driver behind both pushing up revenues by massively increasing the number of hosts, encouraging host to take rock bottom prices just to drive revenue and guest numbers, etc. You will alwasy lose out unfortunately.
Just one point:
Believe me, there is...I am severly allergic to mosquito bites and have to take numerous precautions - nets are just a part of the solution and I would not take that as the answer in any hotel/country where there are mozzies.
Hi, thanks again for your comment. We are really sorry to hear about your mosquito allergy, must be a pain to combine with travels. Now you got us really curious though, since you have first hand experience with mosquito allergy. We are really trying to understand this hole thing. Would you mind us asking what kind of precautions you would take before booking an accommodation? What else than mosquito nets in the windows do you look for?
All our ammeneties are carefully listed, and it clearly states we don't have airco....
Best regards
Nikolas & Roberta
Hi all - I admittedly skimmed many of the replies but at the very least, I plan to look at the extenuating circumstances policy. Allergic to mosquito bites seems ridiculous and if this was allowed, it seems a pretty clear example of guests being favored over hosts.
I am also jumping on this thread out of total selfish neediness to spread my bile, I mean share my concern with others.
I am sitting on this review/diatribe because I need to review and edit it OR NOT SEND IT when I am less angry and more clear-headed.
I am not sure if I would have had any luck had I contacted Airbnb first to make sure they were aware that the guest had already talked about finding a local place to stay and wanted to end her stay two weeks early.
Feel free to ignore as I am getting some small satisfaction just by the act of posting it.
I have had such positive experiences with my Airbnb guests that my interactions generally boost m y mood and make me feel good about the world. This one left me feeling let down and slightly sick to my stomach for longer than I would like to admit.
Airbnb agreed with “Marnie” and left me $1000 short so sadly, I am left with using my review as the only form of justice I will get.
There are two sides to every story. “Marnie” claimed to be afraid of one of my dogs and I was ready to refund her because I am a pushover, but the more I thought about the timing of when she told me she was too scared to enter the condo and the fact that she calmly entered my condo the following morning to collect her belongings, made me realize that her greater fear was of her student loan debt.
Indeed, when she told me she was stopping by to pick up her belongings, I had assumed she would have rung the doorbell so I could put the dogs in my bedroom, but she entered with her key despite the fact that my dog was barking as she entered. She did not seem scared at all.
I was so accommodating to “Marnie” from the start and I feel embarrassed and angry with myself for being such a sap. Here are the bullet points:
If you focus is to tell her them that can be done throught the message system, if it is to leave a negative response for others then thumbs down, 1 across the board and a paragraph that gets the point across but not the extent ABB would remove it.
@Sinead4 Your "rant" was so skillfully written and rather funny, it took me awhile to realize you lost a chunk of change! Your post is the cautionary tale for "no good deed goes unpunished"! If a guest states they are afraid or a host states they are afraid, Air BNB will respond to the need for perceived safety. Of course they have no information about subsequent behavior. Not sure they can do anything else. Your reviews have references to enjoying the puppies. However, you could get in writing that there is no guest concern about the dogs.
I suggest you remove your statements that your dog is "territorial". I have a dog that is sweetness personified, but I still require that I greet all guests and introduce them to her. I can assess the guest's reaction and I might even send a message commenting on the positive introduction.
Obviously you are doing something right, so keep it up, but harden your heart a wee bit...:D
@Nikolas--Roberta-and-Mar0 I feel your pain. While we have not had that specific instance, it is deeply disappointing to hear that AirBnB would not actually hold a *guest* responsible for their not reading the amenities. We do not list the kitchen as being an amenity on the rooms of our B&B that we sometimes list on AirBnB. In fact, we specifically state in our listing that our license prohibits guest use of our kitchen for anything other than heating frozen or refrigerated pre-cooked food in the microwave, or the oven. No cooktop cooking allowed. They even have to agree to this under the house rules before they can book. Still some guests act shocked that they cannot cook. It has even made it into a couple reviews. What are hosts to do? If AirBnB refuses to hold guests accountable, and takes everything out on hosts, maybe hosts should take it out on AirBnB. Maybe a class-action lawsuit? Since AirBnB only seems to care about money, putting a dent in their wallet mike make a difference.