Refund of service fee: no full refund, no service fee

Yu86
Level 2
Manchester, United Kingdom

Refund of service fee: no full refund, no service fee

A customer can get back the service fee from airbnb only if they get a full refund from the host – Is it a bad loop that if airbnb does not try hard to get a full refund for a customer, then they can get their full service fee? 

 

Think of a case where a customer has to cancel their booking due to external issues that they cannot control, which is understandable but is not covered by the cancelation policy for full refund such as natural disasters, and the customer has informed both the host and airbnb as soon as possible, two weeks before the start date of the booking. I believe most people would agree that the customer should be considered for a full refund. 

 

But it is only subject to the agreement of the host, and it is likely that the host does not give a full refund to the customer. The customer will be already very frustrated at this point, and we should notice that they have been looking forward to this trip for a long time but cannot do it because of external issues that they cannot control. 

 

Then what will airbnb do? “Sorry, no service fee will be given back to you because you cannot get a full refund from the host.” or “Sorry, we are able to get all the service fee because we are not able to help you get a full refund.”

 

How ridiculous! 

 

This is exactly what happened to me. I have included my story after the horizontal link, because it is long. 

 

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I have a valid visitor visa and can legally stay in the country for six months. However, when I passed the border, the officer at the border changed the condition for me and only allowed me to stay for a week. I was very shocked at that point. Hence, I have to change my later trips, and also cancel the airbnb booking. This cancellation is really caused by external issues that I cannot control. 

 

I informed the host the time I knew this message, two weeks before the start date of the booking. No reply. I also contacted the support team at the same time, and they claimed that they could contact the host and get back to me if they have heard back from the host. Still, no reply. I was alone and hopeless in the country far from home. 

 

I kept sending messages to the host over the two-week time, but it wasn't until the start date of my booking that they finally got back to me. They said they were only willing to refund me half of the booking. OK, but being in a very disadvantageous situation, what else can I do? I then contacted the support team to see whether I can at least get support from airbnb to get back the service fee. But what I have found is that they will not refund me any of the service fee, because I cannot get a full refund from the host. 

 

How ridiculous it is!

 

I think my case should be considered for a full refund, but I cannot get it. Then airbnb were telling me that because I cannot get a full refund, which itself was already very frustrating, I cannot get any of the service fee back from them, which makes the whole case even more frustrating and unreasonable.

 

Meanwhile, I do not think the support team is very helpful over the whole process. They have claimed to contact the host from the first day I informed them, but no effective information has been obtained by them during the whole time. I would not be able to get any refund from the host  if I stayed waiting for a reply from the support team. Even though the host eventually is only willing to refund me part of the booking, it was achieved through my conversation with the host. If I were airbnb, I would feel ashamed of not being able to achieve it myself. 

 

Finally, I think airbnb is here to support a customer, not to add to the customer’s pain. I know the policy is here to help simplify things, but I believe airbnb is here to help their customers, right? I know airbnb might not change the host’s decision not to give me a full refund, but what they can do is to support the customer by something they can, e.g., refunding the service fee. 

 

Don’t anyone think that they fall in this bad loop where if they cannot give a full refund to a customer who should be considered for this, which already very much hurts the customer, and then because of this, the customer cannot get any service fee back, which makes the customer even be in an even worse situation? 

 

Does airbnb really have your customers in mind? I am not sure.

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Fiona814
Level 2
Southampton, United Kingdom

I hear you - same here lost £2000 yesterday- great way to make money hey! We have 7 months notice 7!!!! Normandy DDAY 80th anniversary so 100% his house will be re let - no problem - the staff are all Liars & robbers ! The host is a greedy man- The french were more welcoming in 1944! 

Yu86
Level 2
Manchester, United Kingdom

7 month?! I completely hear you!!! 

 

The thing is that there is no way to report them, right? I was vvvvery disappointed after talking with the support team, but found nothing I can do... 

 

 

Helen3
Top Contributor
Bristol, United Kingdom

@Yu86 what was the cancellation policy that you booked under ? 

Yu86
Level 2
Manchester, United Kingdom

The cancelation policy for the host is no refund for the first 30 days. 

Helen3
Top Contributor
Bristol, United Kingdom

1. What was the cancellation policy you booked under @Fiona814 

 

2. why did you need to cancel ? 

 

3. is your travel insurance not able to cover your reason for cancelling ? 

 

your comment about the French is unnecessary. 

Fiona814
Level 2
Southampton, United Kingdom

the full story is too long to even start I was wrongly advised  by ABNB staff - re joke about the French read your history books, and get a sense of humour! 

Helen3
Top Contributor
Bristol, United Kingdom

Sounds like the host had a lucky escape @Fiona814 😁

Fiona814
Level 2
Southampton, United Kingdom

Ha ha ha all hosts abroad seem to very greedy now - our veterans are disgusted by their greed with the  Normandy prices!  Unfortunately, you know nothing about my case, and what I’ve been through over the last four months with another host in Normandy where it all began. We booked something two years in advance and it got cancelled for just that week because they knew they could get higher prices - my experience it’s mostly down to Airbnb’s incompetence! I’ve only used a few places with Airbnb and I’ve had fantastic feedback because I am a fantastic guest. It’s just a shame you don’t get my sense of humour! 

Bob297
Level 10
Bilthoven, Netherlands

@Yu86 

When the customer has informed both the host and Airbnb at least two weeks before the start date of the booking, “I believe most people would agree that the customer should be considered for a full refund.”

 

However, I have a different perspective. I think a full refund should only be considered if the host is able to re-rent the canceled days. For many people, renting out their homes is not just a hobby; it's a means of generating income.

 

I understand that your experience at the border was unfortunate, but that situation is beyond the control of the host. As hosts, we are not insurance companies, and it's always a good idea to consider purchasing travel insurance to protect against unforeseen circumstances.

Yu86
Level 2
Manchester, United Kingdom

Thanks for your comment. My main point is why airbnb can get the full service fee? Even my host agreed to refund me something. 

 

Actually, what you have mentioned is an agreement I would like to achieve with the host.

I understand the the host should not pay for this, and neither do I.

But as I mentioned at the beginning, this is not the main point -- I mentioned it because it relates to airbnb's policy to refund the serviece fee. I just cannot understand it.   

 

Mike-And-Jane0
Top Contributor
England, United Kingdom

@Yu86 I fear your approach is somewhat selfish. The chance of a host replacing a booking at 2 weeks notice is slim. In addition Airbnb has done its job of putting guest and host together so deserves its money. Why should you get a full refund from both whilst damaging them? The situation you describe is ideally suited to travel insurance but you made a decision, consciously or unconsciously, not to buy it. Sadly this turns out to be an expensive decision.

Yu86
Level 2
Manchester, United Kingdom

It's good to know that you think I am selfish. 

 

For one thing, I want to get a full refund but after knowing that the host is not willing to do it, the agreement I would like to achieve is to get the overlapping part if it is rent out (so nothing if it does not). 

 

For another thing, I think you are on the side of airbnb, so they are getting their full service fee for trying to connect us, even though the agreement is achieved between my conversation with the host.

-- It just seems to me a one-cut decision, and I think there needs a change here.

 

But it seems that you disagree on this, and this is may be why it is still here. Good to know how you think, and why this policy is here.