Airbnb Host Desperately Need Help

Hadrian1
Level 8
Los Angeles, CA

Airbnb Host Desperately Need Help

Hi. I am a super host with over 4000 reviews.

 

I am a professional host and I make a living by managing Airbnb rentals.

It has been a hard year for everyone, especially when you make a living from Airbnb.

 

The worst part is, Airbnb supposed to be your ally and assist you. But Airbnb reps only listen to the guest and never even gave me the opportunity for a fair trial. I have requested to speak to my supervisor many times, and never got replied.

 

I give you few examples:

1. A guest claimed that he got bit by bed bugs in my home. The guest submitted a doctor's note to Airbnb showing that the guest got bit by an insect. Without consulting me, the guest was awarded a full refund and my listing was deactivated. I had to call the pest control company to provide an inspection (at my cost) and show that my property is clear from bed bugs and insects. But regardless, the guest has been fully refunded. The guest could have gotten bit by anything. An insect bite can be fleas, ticks, mosquitos, and the guest can bit anywhere, in the park, on the grass, etc. It is unfair that the guest got a full refund by this allegation.

 

2. A guest book a room for his son. The son used drugs in our home and invite homeless people to the house. We got threatened by the homeless/criminal that he does not want to leave. We called the mother who is in another country. The mother apologized and admitted on the AIRBNB APP that the son has a substance abuse problem. We had to call the police and change all the locks in the house. We submit a resolution request for damages two days later which the mother refused to pay. We escalate the matter to Airbnb and Airbnb replied: because we accepted other guests in the house it was hard to determine who invited the homeless. For that reason, the reps say it is against Airbnb policy to claim the insurance. The rep then closed the case. Once your case is closed, you can not even communicate with the rep anymore. It is unfair and the denial excuse does not make any sense. The mother admitted all fault that was done by her son on the Airbnb app.

 

3. A trans woman booked to stay in our home. This person invited unauthorized guest, smokes marijuana inside the room and smell the whole house, get drunk, pee on the floor, and start being hostile, and much more. We called the police but the police will not remove the guest until the reservation got canceled. We called Airbnb and I was put on hold for over one hour and thirty minutes and the call got disconnected. We called Airbnb again, and the support ambassador could not help unless putting us on hold again until a case manager or someone from trust and safety team picks up the phone. The immediate action that the support ambassador could do is to do cancellation by host. Because the situation with the guest escalated and the police could not act until the reservation got cancelled, we had no choice to agree. We prioritized our safety and the other guest's safety. The guest was refunded in full and our calendar was blocked. To put more salts to the wound, the Airbnb rep contacted us because we call the guest with the pronoun "he", we discriminated against a Trans Woman and my account is being noted for violation. This person has a male gender name, masculine look, and in the heat of argument we call her by "he".  I tried to explain to the rep that I am a gay man and we don't have any intention to discriminate. I ask the Airbnb rep to consider the whole situation and he replied essentially say it does not matter what the guest did nor how she behaved in the house, but the fact that we mistakenly call him by a he was enough for us to be penalized. 

 

4. A guest claimed that our room has an odor. The guest contacted the Airbnb rep asking for a full refund after 5 night stays and the Rep immediately sent us an email saying that we are in violation for not providing a cleanroom. I told the rep why did the guest had to wait for 5 nights and then ask for a refund? We asked if we can go to the room to check the source of the odor and the guest refused. We have 5 stars average rating in cleanliness. The guest has 0 reviews. I asked the rep to be fair to us and to our reputation history. The rep replied cockily that we are in violation and that his decision was final. I told the rep if the room truly has an odor why are we not allowed to check the room? The rep then added a new allegation saying that we lied about our amenity and that we did not provide internet service. I said that is not true. I sent a screenshot of our internet speed. I also ask the rep to contact our other Airbnb guests in the same property to see if they can connect to our wifi. No one has an issue connecting to our wifi. We offered to help the guest connect to the wifi in which the guest refused. If the guest truly has a wifi issue, why are we not allowed to help? But regardless, Airbnb noted our account again for violation in cleanliness and no internet. I requested to speak to a supervisor, and until today, no replied.

 

I have much much more stories where we, the host, with over 4000 reviews and have hosted 6000 guests treated like garbage by Airbnb reps. Every week a new insult and humiliation by Airbnb reps. Airbnb rep continues to become our prosecutors and the judge. The host is not given a chance for a fair trial. Airbnb reps can simply close the case and your communication stop. I have advocated for Airbnb. We are a responsible host that follow the law, respect our neighbors, and only try to make a living. I don't understand why Airbnb treated us so poorly.

 

I am desperate. I have multiple jobs, and my primary income is doing Airbnb. But there is only so much more I can take from Airbnb reps. Thank you for reading my post. Please if you know anyone that can provide justice to me, please let me know. Thank you.

 

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Helen350
Level 10
Whitehaven, United Kingdom

@Helen3 You misrepresent me!  I certainly DO believe in equality! In fact I believe in men treating women with such respect that 'feminism' should not be neccessary! (I also believe that women should treat men with respect.) People should treat people with respect! - Enough of the factions & 'isms'!

I don't like 'feminism' because it represents an 'attitude'.... Even though that attitude is frequently justified when men mistreat women!

 

Mary996
Level 10
Swansea, United Kingdom

@Anonymous Well that's alright then!!

Am disappointed for @Helen350  having missed out on the women's caucus experience but hey it can't be forced...!  I like men and think I get on better with them precisely because I did experience separatism. Great persuader to guys to do get stuck into the washing up!!!

@Hadrian1 , I don't want to dither far from your original topic (Airbnbs CS is not what it should be and really needs to become again sooooooooon)  but my guess is that most Gay and TG folks have certainly had many situations that are way more uncomfortable and deeply discriminatory than a host/ lodging provider that didn't call them the correct pronoun from a list of many that might be used including, "hey you"..   

 

Its one thing to call someone derogatory names and another all together when you call them the wrong name, the first is indictable, the second is just humans being humans and rarely worth more than a chuckle in most cases.   It seems to me, when someone gets mad or emotional  over something as small as being one letter off from their personally preferred pronoun (she or he), they are looking for a fight not just trying to live their life as they wish and or choose.  In your case, it was to get something for free that they didn't deserve.  In others, its used to defame or wrongly label someone by blame throwing a verbal Faux Pas on them that can ruin reputations without proof of anything except a single humans interpretation of a moment in time.

 

Its time to start acting like were all human instead of different colored minions hiding in special silos and cubbies we have constructed to honor dead leaders that are long gone.  We are far more alike than we are different and the sins of someone else's fathers are not our sins.  The more we emphasize and pronounce our tiny differences as insurmountable,  the less we will ever be able to live free in our homes or neighborhoods.  Stay well, JR   

 

 

@Melodie-And-John0 

But then again those differences can be sources of joy! The patchwork Quilt the rich Tapestry of life xxxx

Melodie-And-John0
Level 10
Munnsville, NY

@Hadrian1 , you would think 4000 substantially great reviews might give a host a reliable voice in any questionable situation (that said, none of yours seem questionable).  Don't get me wrong Hadrian, customer service is always #1 and the customer is always right actually applies in most cases here but things like you have described cross the threshold to a different world where abuse, gotchas and manipulation rue the day, we are hosts not carpets.  

 

Guilty until proven innocent is as pandemic as Covid in the USA, no need for jury's, tribunals or courts anymore, "bring in the guilty party to be judged and disposed of".   Airbnb playing social police arbitrator is on a very slippery slope when they choose to follow their heartfelt feelings instead of the civil laws of our lands.   

 

You, me and our fellow hosts here on Airbnb are being held to standards of conduct that are constructed on graham cracker foundations in quicksand footings on a Fault zone the size of Kansas.   The targets and hurdles  being thrown in the way and piled on top of hosts is like an Ellen game show gauntlet to see who can survive the obstacle course, public humiliation and shaming is just a bonus round.    

 

Hadrian, I want to say welcome to the club, your in great company here, your insights as a gay person are irrelevant, its just assumed because your a successful business person that your out to screw your customer.   You expect to hear things like that from random haters but it sucks royal when the franchise you have hooked your wagon to turns out to employ that as a technique of displaying piousness.    

 

Thanks for bringing this to the table, you can be sure it will be seen by folks that could rethink the CS response and start supporting all of us that pay them a small or large ransom for their services host and guest alike.   Hosts are people too!   Stay well, JR

 

 

 

 

@Melodie-And-John0 Wow. You are very articulate. But I think you brought up a very valid point. I am being executed as guilty. But the Airbnb reps did not even have the decency to allow me to prove my innocence. 

 

Almost all the time, the problematic guest has 0 reviews or has bad reviews. Yes, Airbnb reps still believe them. Sometimes I ask the reps, if you don't believe me, ask my other guests who are currently staying in the unit. 

 

For example, a guest asked for a full refund after completing her stay because there was no hot water.

I said there was hot water. And why did you complained at the end and not at the beginning. Every day, I always ask my guest how was your first night? Do you need anything else? And this guest had the opportunity to complain there was no hot water. But he waited until the end of the reservation.

 

But the Airbnb reps ask me to send proof that I have hot water. That is absurd. Should I take a picture of the thermometer in a bucket? I said why don't you ask other guests in the house that also booked from Airbnb to see if they have hot water. And the reps refused. So the reps refused to believe me and not even bother to ask other guests in the house. 

 

At the end this guest did not get his refund. But I have to argue for hours just to convince the reps that we do have hot water.

 

Clara116
Host Advisory Board Member
Pensacola, FL

@Catherine-Powell once again I reach out and ask for you and your team to take notice of more unbelievable CS examples of working against hosts. @Hadrian1  has  Over 4000 almost perfect 5 star reviews that should be worth something to Airbnb and it's supporting staff. To threaten a host for disagreeing with them. This CS stepped too far... please make sure this behavior is addressed and eliminated. Thanks in advance. Clara

@Clara116 I actually cried reading your support. Thank you so much for your kind words. 

Mary996
Level 10
Swansea, United Kingdom

Thanks @Clara116 for calling in @Catherine-Powell  with respect to the treatment of @Hadrian1 .

 

I regret we also have a problem with name calling and inappropriate peer judgement going on above which I can direct you to Catherine if not immediately obvious. I do request that males using intimidating language towards females be sanctioned by threat of exclusion from participation on these boards if it continues.

Clara116
Host Advisory Board Member
Pensacola, FL

@Hadrian1 I was so upset reading your original post and surely hope u get some backup and support when our new Catherine Powell and her team realize that some things cross a line and have to be corrected quickly...this is one of them. May you continue to thrive and do well..... finding peace and joy in many moments. Blessings, Clara

@Catherine-Powell @Clara116 

 

Clara thank you for tagging Catherine.

Hi Catherine, I don't know who you are, but it seems that you work for Airbnb. 

 

Can you please kindly contact me? I am a professional host and I do Airbnb full-time to make a living. I have several jobs but I am not so good at my other jobs. Hosting seems to be my passion and the best thing that I excel at. I genuinely enjoy helping people, cooking for my guests, and making friends from all over the world. I love making people laughs, learning about different cultures, and making them feel welcomed when they are thousands of miles away from their home.

 

There are many instances that I put my guests' comfort and needs beyond financial profit. My reviews do speak for themselves. But I have been treated unfairly so many times. Airbnb reps have repeatedly raped me of my dignity. Airbnb reps repeatedly made subjective decisions or make subjective interpretations of Airbnb rules and policy. I can speak many instances that you could have two different outcomes from the same case depending on who is the Airbnb reps that handling your case. Often when challenged, the reps simply sent an automatic email which shows they did not even bother to read what you sent or closed the case. They hold so much power over you that I can only beg for mercy even though I have not done anything wrong. There is no check and balance. 

 

I am pleading for help and justice. Please treat me like a human being. Can you please help me?

Fred13
Level 10
Placencia, Belize

@Hadrian1 After 6 years with Airbnb I have come to one conclusion, that granted they are financially successful (as many  other 'internet wonders' of the last 20 years have been), but that necessarily doesn't automatically translate to they being necessarily naturally bright, nor fair minded. When you have their kind of money one would assume they can afford and would only hire the 'best & brightest' (or at least follow the concept of a meritocracy), since they certainly can afford them and definitely they do exist. 

 

If your case (and oftentimes those of other hosts here in general) was simply judged on the basis of merit,  we wouldn't be having so many of these absurd cases brought up on this board. Instead I get the feeling that in Airbnb there is an 'us against them'  mentality, which of course makes no sense; however never to be forgotten is that nothing in the past of these new media billionaires prepared them well for the new-found power of their wealth they have today.  

 

Good luck \

@Fred13 I agree. As Airbnb grows bigger and more financially successful, they truly have lost the core of their value. After canceling many reservations during COVID, Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky has apologized publicly for failing to recognize us the host as partners.  He promised to change the direction of his company. I have not received any aids from Airbnb that was promised. And certainly, the company is still heading in a negative direction. It was an empty promise after all.

@Hadrian1 I don't believe a word that comes out of the CEO's mouth. His aw shucks, I'm just a regular guy who can totally empathize with all you hosts, falsely sincere demeanor turns my stomach. The guy's a billionaire, and has long ago lost touch with the hosts who have gotten him there. Sure, he had a good idea, and it worked, just like Zuckerberg. But as they say, money corrupts, and that's exactly what we're dealing with. A giant corporation that cares about nothing but their profits.

Mary419
Level 10
Savannah, GA

@Hadrian1 

This post was very relatable for me.

 

One or two bad interactions with an Airbnb agent can magnify the constant stress that full time managers are already under to the point it is the straw that broke the camel's back. It takes a lot of strength and focus trying to provide clean and maintained properties and deal with hundreds of guest personalities weekly, not to mention the homeowner/clients, maids, repair vendors etc. We need to feel supported on the other side for what we do. 

 

Airbnb allowing each agent to treat us just as badly and roughly as they feel like that day is such a bad business practice for them. 

 

Instead of an advisory board or a fancy unreachable executive they should have hired a team of psychologists like Wendy on Bilions to give us pep talks to keep going. We are after all their army of free employees. That is exactly how they treat us. We provide a product for them to sell, at no cost to them. It is very hard to understand the agenda right now.  

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