Advice needed: guest requests to host non guests for dinner

[Jennifer-Rae0]

Hi all

Over the past few months I have had guests(s) who reserve a room to stay the night and ask if they can host/cook dinner for non guests in the home.

I am unsure how to handle this.

I have an area that is spacious for entertaining.  When there are no AirBnb guests in the home, and I have a request to host a party in the entertainment area, I block the AirBnb calendar so that the people who host a party have the property for themselves.  Likewise I would not have AirBnb guests at the same time that someone rents the entertainment area for a party.

My concerns are liability as the non guests are not registered with AirBnb and the home.  Also, if non guests are using the kitchen and the entertainement area they are non paying guests, using the facilities without being registered and paying as a guest.

I know that a lot of us here use rent our homes for private functions (parties, cocktails) in additon to hosting for AirBnb.  It would be great to get your input on this.

[Marzena4]

Hello @Jennifer-Rae0. If your listing allows that (=if you had it in mind when creating it and you put it in the description) you may do it. If you feel it is too much, just state it clearly that such activities are extra paid. Normally, one guest=one person staying. Cooking for two is beyond the contract imho. The most important is to communicate it clearly to the guest.

[Jen126]

 Thank you for the quick and thoughtful reply!

My listing is intended to have the entertainment area for registered guests only. I am OK if there is one non-guest using the facility, however above that for me is too much.

Great solution on offering 

[Edwin57]

If you still do it or allow it just supervise the place safety first I have done it in my privet home belive me when I tell it was two hundred guest in and out , and it came out all great 

[Jessica-and-Henry0]

@Jennifer-Rae0

I basically agree with what @Marzena4 says.

If money and liability are the only concerns then clearly state that you are happy to allow guests to entertain their own family/friends, BUT regardless of how long anyone stays, any person (guests of the guest) that enter your home must also be notified to host in advance and they must pay the extra guest fee accordingly. Focus on the liability and wear&tear factor more than the cost elements. ("You use more TP and water and gas" sounds so petty.) Also make sure you put a cap on total no. of people allowed in your home at any given time.

If you don't want the hassle, then just ban it altogether and be firm.

If you are not an onsite host, I think it would really help if you have some sort of security camera of the entrance (if you don't have one already). If potential guests know that you monitor who comes and goes, they will either be honest or go somewhere without cameras.

Good luck~

[Cormac0]

@Jennifer-Rae0

The simpliest thing to do, is say only Guest who pay can use the facilities, otherwise you're opening your door to your hospitality being abused.

So they stay for dinner and drink to much and fall asleep on the couch/sofa/satee, as host what are you going to do except annoy yourself.

If you pay you stay

Regards

Cormac

The Explorer's Club Krakow III

[Becky134]

I am trying to figure this out as well. We have had several guests come to visit family in the area, then host that family for dinner. Often paying only for 2 guests but then hosting 6-10 for dinner. What is the best way to approach this? How do you word it in your listing? Thanks for any advice or tips!

[Letti0]

@Becky0 If you do this please make sure you have commerical insurance in place or get get them to purchase 1 day insurance to cover the liability. I have commercial insurance, but still require this. Also charge more for the privilege of hosting the party. Set an amount you think is fair. 

Here's my wording in my event contract. Just use what works for you and your situation out of this. If they are home owners they can get it cheaper with a rider to their home owner policy through their personal insurance agents.  (I do weddings and special events. I was just approved for AirBnB Experiences to book them also for small intimate weddings.):

The client shall maintain Commercial General Liability Insurance, including Host Liquor liability, in an amount not less than $1,000,000 Combined Single Limit for Bodily Injury and Property Damage. Such insurance shall name Live Oak Vineyard LLC as additional insured, and a certificate of insurance with an endorsement must be provided twenty-one (21) days prior to the event. Average cost: $100 if no liquor is served and $175 if liquor is served we recommend www.privateeventinsurance.com or www.wedsafe.com  (This insurance is separate from and in addition to insurance provided by the caterer, if one is contracted.)