I am now already in a +10 day discussion with Airbnb on an i...
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I am now already in a +10 day discussion with Airbnb on an issue of blocked days that are being switched to 'active' in the c...
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It is unfortunate that Airbnb affords a Host only THIS forum to make right, a completely false and derogatory, misleading public review.
I, as a 5-Star Host (across the board until now), have to publicly and sadly use this space to attempt to correct an impugning and egregious statement made by a guest who both broke the rules of Airbnb's Terms and Conditions by booking for "others" (not through the correct protocol of using Airbnb for Work and obtaining verification and authorization to do so). This booker never even SAW or STEPPED FOOT into our rental space, yet chooses under his OWN name as the "booking guest" to write or quanitatively rate, ANY words or submit star ratings from a first person point-of-view.
After contacting both the guest AND Airbnb, neither the guest NOR Airbnb would respectfully attempt to correct what is a COMPLETE LIE in the written review. I am ashamed of the integrity of both. "Mr. C" never once was in or entered my listing, and to make a "subjective" statement that "If you are allergic to cats, we don't recommend booking this unit", is a hostile assertion that the place somehow is unsanitary or contaminated with allergens and therefore should not be considered for rental by some. The unit is spotless and has a 5-star rating for immaculate cleanliness.
In all honesty, I believe his review is due to the fact that the GUEST was frightened I would be leaving HIM a bad review for illegally booking third party guests. This was a retaliatory review; not written from first person experience. Our review of his third-party guests did not mention his breaking of AirBnb's primary rule.
AirBnb continues to allow him to make this statement and suggests he has the right to make such a statement, though he DID NOT and NEVER entered or saw the space; after objection, Airbnb still ALLOWS him to make such a statement and POST, AND RATE our space, thereby affecting our PERFECT past 5-Star Rating with his chosen "4-Overall Rating" and a "3-Star Accuracy Rating," stating he "did not see a mention of a cat in the description."
There is not only a LONG statement within our Listing concerning our cats living in OUR home, as a "respectful" host, I send out a long greeting message with many helpful tips and useful information to my guests one week before arriving, whereby the cats are mentioned AGAIN, one week PRIOR to the guests' arrival.
At no time could Mr. C have been "unaware" or not knowledgeable that cats were associated with the listing. To say "Did not see a mention of a cat in the description" is a fault of his own, not mine. (One of the two complaints which are obviously of his lack of research. However - ironically - in his communications with me, through the AirBnb messaging system, he says "My guests LOVE your cats, and the space is incredible," verbatim!)
Mr. C broke one of the most important Airbnb Terms and Conditions, by falsely booking as our guest then allowing others to stay in our quarters. Airbnb was made aware, yet 1) chose to do nothing and 2) have FURTHERMORE allowed Mr. C this public review forum to CONTINUE his abuse of this Host's reputation; a host that kindly provided a CLEAN, SAFE, UNBLEMISHED 5-STAR RATED space.
SHAME, SHAME on both.
Furthermore, I would defend ANY and ALL accusations otherwise that a "LOCATION" Rating be even allowed by Airbnb for a guests' consideration. WHY would a guest be allowed to rate "LOCATION" for any reason after the stay?... The guests are made fully aware of the general location prior to booking, and then given EXACT Location upon booking, with plenty of time to cancel if needed.)
HOW can a Star Rating be given (and LOWERED from a 5 to a 4) just because "I wish it was closer to a Green Bike Station."? THE GUEST knows where they are booking, or at least it is their duty to research such. My house "didn't" move, making something "less convenient" to the guests needs...whereby one can just (upon staying) make a rating AGAINST my reputation, because of specific needs of to be closer to a specific "Green Bike Station.".
(By the way, there is a 35 cent bus stop that stands less than 100 feet from the front door of my listing... No, it is not a "GREEN BIKE STATION" but it would have taken Mr. C's non-properly booked guests directly to their desired location in less than a five minute bus trip — one direct-no-transfer ride down one street thirteen blocks directly north ON THE SAME STREET!)
Again, the reviewer, Mr.C, did not STAY or even VISIT our space. Yet he wrote this review and AirBnb allows it. It should be the GUEST'S RESPONSIBILITY to know what their location's surroundings and amenities are. I provide a HUGE list of informative surroundings both in my listing AND in an email prior to arrival... now I'm RESPONSIBLE for specific "green bike stations" being "too far way?" This should affect my location rating? We are thirteen blocks from his (wrongful) guests destination. Is that inconvenience worth a drop of two stars? Uber would have been $4 for a pair - we have done it before!
I will ALWAYS stand corrected and accept criticism that has basis in truth and genuine concern, however, I will NOT be silent when both a Company AND a Guest can, without integrity OR adherence to their OWN terms and conditions, publicly make false statements and perpetuate complete lies. It is SHAMEFUL, and it is REPREHENSIBLE, yet AirBnb claims they cannot break their rules of taking the review down - yet they were perfectly comfortable breaking the rules to allow a third party to book guests into my home.
This Guest broke BASIC Airbnb Rules, booking for others under his OWN name. This Guest NEVER stayed or saw the space. This Host honored EVERY aspect of THIER side of the Agreement. Yet both Airbnb AND the Guest are allowed to do damage and tarnish my five-star rating. AirBnb does not want to break it's review policy, yet the guest broke one of AirBnb's biggest and most foremost of policies - and AirBnb allows the review to stand.
HOSTS BEWARE... Once again, this is proof AirBnb sides with the guests - NOT THE HOSTS.
@Kirk57 I understand your frustration with someone making a booking, but not staying with you. At what point did you find out that the person who booked wasn't staying? If it was before arrival, in future, I would consider calling Airbnb and asking them to cancel the booking without penalty, since the guest was intending to break an Airbnb rule.
Location is a thorn in many hosts' sides, but it doesn't really affect your ratings, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
However... your response to that review makes you look completely unhinged, and will do more to stop potential guests from booking with you that the review ever would have done. You do have cats on site: where's the lie? I don't see any accusation that the space was unclean. The guest's review wouldn't make me re-consider my booking, but your response would have me running for the hills. Your responses to reviews should be written for other guests who are thinking of booking: it shouldn't be seen as an opportunity to vent your spleen at the guest who wronged you, who will likely never read your response.
I would ask Airbnb to remove your response and continue to petition to have the review itself removed. Maybe try Twitter @airbnbhelp or on Facebook.
Are you SERIOUS Alexandra? You are suggesting I come across as "unhinged" for stating the TRUTH? That it is OKAY for someone WHO NEVER EVEN STEPPED FOOT ON THE PROPERTY to be able to publicly REVIEW THAT SPACE? Moreso, by someone who FRAUDENTLY Booked the space? UNHINGED is allowing just ANY HUMAN BEING ON EARTH to make a FRAUDULENT agreement to use your space, break POSTED AIRBNB TERMS AND CONDITIONS, never even enter or step FOOT in it, degrade it PUBLICLY, REPORT the breaking of the rules, be told it is ALLOWED (because it's okay to break the rules)....and remaining silent. For that matter, it might as well had been YOU who reviewed my place. What's the difference? Seems nobody had the integrity to be truthful or follow rules ANYWAY...feel free to shame me publicly too, since you too, have never stepped foot on my property. I guess had I had been assaulted or stolen from by "WHOMEVER" it was in my space, it's still all fine and dandy. Maybe in their "review" they coulda just said 2-Stars ("Cats were in my way while taking full advantage of the Host's generosity", or "Location wasn't advantageous to my hauling away of their belongings"). To be honest "Unhinged" is REPLYING to my post, allowing YOURSELF to be exposed as someone willing to be taken advantage of. You DO know potential future "guests" can read this also?
When are HOSTS going to start DEMANDING their rights be respected and handled ACCORDINGLY, when it is THEY that are providing Airbnb BRICK AND MORTAR Space COMPLETELY without cost to make a profit, and accept "vetted" guests who don't even USE your space to degrade it and share their "Opinions" WITHOUT RECOURSE...but with outright lies we "just have to accept?"
Really???.....Please, run for the hills from this place then. EXACTLY who i DO NOT want stepping foot into my home.
@Kirk57 You can add my vote that your extremely long rant makes you look much worse than the guest. Maybe you were given more negative feedback privately and you responded to that, but the public review is quite positive, all you needed to say in response is that 'Yes, we agree that anyone allergic to cats should probably not book with us, that is why we have the presence of cats disclosed in multiple places on the listing and why guests have to acknowledge that cats are on the property when booking. The end.
Apparently you do not take feedback in the spirit it is given, so posting on this forum is not going to be a good experience for you.
Too bad because your listing is so lovely and you do provide for so many guests a great experience. The review in question was actually very positive and really revealed the guest ignorance. A professional reply would have appreciated the positive and gently suggested the guest could have benefittd from reading the listing and mention of the lovely cats.
As a potential guest, though, I would wonder if I would have to deal with such an extreme reaction.
@Kirk57 I understand your concern with Airbnb's attitude towards to guest when there are disputes or claims as most of hosts have posted in this forum about their experience with Airbnb.
I saw that you only have 12 reviews so far. If you are to host for long time, a 4 star rating sooner or later will come. There are a lot of cases in this forum, hosts have even got 4 star or even a 1 star overall rating because of the mistake made by the guest.
I fully agree with what @Alexandra316 wrote. Your long response could only deter other guests from booking your listing. When you mention a cat in your house, any people who are allergic to cats will hesitate to book your listing anyway.
Calm down and stay positive. Health is more important than 5 star ratings:-)
I'm not sure if you are able to see my "reply" back to Alexandra. If not, feel free to respond back if you'd so care to see and I will then just publish it publicly below...so as to end the ridiculousness of these comments. Thank you.
That won't be necessary Elena, thank you. If I could ADD to it, I would. ') (see my reply to Alexandra above).
@Kirk57 Your response could not have been better, if your goal is to deter as many future boookings as possible. The person who wrote the review will probably never see it but every prospective guest will. I hope you'll take a breath and listen to the helpful feedback you are getting here. Every host eventually gets unfair reviews and this one is pretty darned mild in the grand scheme of things. If you can't tolerate it you are in the wrong business.
They don't listen to anybody but what the computer says.
So if this guest didn't brake Airbnb's third party rule, you would be completely fine and accepting of their review? I have a feeling that anything less than a perfect remark is going to get this type of response from you and that makes me sad for you. Don't get involved with Airbnb, the stress of it will kill you.
Thank you Emilia. No reason to feel sad for me. I accept the "Truth" from anyone. Prove otherwise.
Appreciate your "concern" Lisa. Join the Pacifists club. ;)....."Helpful" feedback will occur when people actually start DEMANDING integrity, as opposed to advising others to just "be quiet, you're rocking the boat." I'll demand integrity no matter HOW 'mild in the grand scheme of things" it is. Tolerating LESS is when you're in the wrong business. Thank you.