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I am now already in a +10 day discussion with Airbnb on an issue of blocked days that are being switched to 'active' in the c...
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It is unfortunate that Airbnb affords a Host only THIS forum to make right, a completely false and derogatory, misleading public review.
I, as a 5-Star Host (across the board until now), have to publicly and sadly use this space to attempt to correct an impugning and egregious statement made by a guest who both broke the rules of Airbnb's Terms and Conditions by booking for "others" (not through the correct protocol of using Airbnb for Work and obtaining verification and authorization to do so). This booker never even SAW or STEPPED FOOT into our rental space, yet chooses under his OWN name as the "booking guest" to write or quanitatively rate, ANY words or submit star ratings from a first person point-of-view.
After contacting both the guest AND Airbnb, neither the guest NOR Airbnb would respectfully attempt to correct what is a COMPLETE LIE in the written review. I am ashamed of the integrity of both. "Mr. C" never once was in or entered my listing, and to make a "subjective" statement that "If you are allergic to cats, we don't recommend booking this unit", is a hostile assertion that the place somehow is unsanitary or contaminated with allergens and therefore should not be considered for rental by some. The unit is spotless and has a 5-star rating for immaculate cleanliness.
In all honesty, I believe his review is due to the fact that the GUEST was frightened I would be leaving HIM a bad review for illegally booking third party guests. This was a retaliatory review; not written from first person experience. Our review of his third-party guests did not mention his breaking of AirBnb's primary rule.
AirBnb continues to allow him to make this statement and suggests he has the right to make such a statement, though he DID NOT and NEVER entered or saw the space; after objection, Airbnb still ALLOWS him to make such a statement and POST, AND RATE our space, thereby affecting our PERFECT past 5-Star Rating with his chosen "4-Overall Rating" and a "3-Star Accuracy Rating," stating he "did not see a mention of a cat in the description."
There is not only a LONG statement within our Listing concerning our cats living in OUR home, as a "respectful" host, I send out a long greeting message with many helpful tips and useful information to my guests one week before arriving, whereby the cats are mentioned AGAIN, one week PRIOR to the guests' arrival.
At no time could Mr. C have been "unaware" or not knowledgeable that cats were associated with the listing. To say "Did not see a mention of a cat in the description" is a fault of his own, not mine. (One of the two complaints which are obviously of his lack of research. However - ironically - in his communications with me, through the AirBnb messaging system, he says "My guests LOVE your cats, and the space is incredible," verbatim!)
Mr. C broke one of the most important Airbnb Terms and Conditions, by falsely booking as our guest then allowing others to stay in our quarters. Airbnb was made aware, yet 1) chose to do nothing and 2) have FURTHERMORE allowed Mr. C this public review forum to CONTINUE his abuse of this Host's reputation; a host that kindly provided a CLEAN, SAFE, UNBLEMISHED 5-STAR RATED space.
SHAME, SHAME on both.
Furthermore, I would defend ANY and ALL accusations otherwise that a "LOCATION" Rating be even allowed by Airbnb for a guests' consideration. WHY would a guest be allowed to rate "LOCATION" for any reason after the stay?... The guests are made fully aware of the general location prior to booking, and then given EXACT Location upon booking, with plenty of time to cancel if needed.)
HOW can a Star Rating be given (and LOWERED from a 5 to a 4) just because "I wish it was closer to a Green Bike Station."? THE GUEST knows where they are booking, or at least it is their duty to research such. My house "didn't" move, making something "less convenient" to the guests needs...whereby one can just (upon staying) make a rating AGAINST my reputation, because of specific needs of to be closer to a specific "Green Bike Station.".
(By the way, there is a 35 cent bus stop that stands less than 100 feet from the front door of my listing... No, it is not a "GREEN BIKE STATION" but it would have taken Mr. C's non-properly booked guests directly to their desired location in less than a five minute bus trip — one direct-no-transfer ride down one street thirteen blocks directly north ON THE SAME STREET!)
Again, the reviewer, Mr.C, did not STAY or even VISIT our space. Yet he wrote this review and AirBnb allows it. It should be the GUEST'S RESPONSIBILITY to know what their location's surroundings and amenities are. I provide a HUGE list of informative surroundings both in my listing AND in an email prior to arrival... now I'm RESPONSIBLE for specific "green bike stations" being "too far way?" This should affect my location rating? We are thirteen blocks from his (wrongful) guests destination. Is that inconvenience worth a drop of two stars? Uber would have been $4 for a pair - we have done it before!
I will ALWAYS stand corrected and accept criticism that has basis in truth and genuine concern, however, I will NOT be silent when both a Company AND a Guest can, without integrity OR adherence to their OWN terms and conditions, publicly make false statements and perpetuate complete lies. It is SHAMEFUL, and it is REPREHENSIBLE, yet AirBnb claims they cannot break their rules of taking the review down - yet they were perfectly comfortable breaking the rules to allow a third party to book guests into my home.
This Guest broke BASIC Airbnb Rules, booking for others under his OWN name. This Guest NEVER stayed or saw the space. This Host honored EVERY aspect of THIER side of the Agreement. Yet both Airbnb AND the Guest are allowed to do damage and tarnish my five-star rating. AirBnb does not want to break it's review policy, yet the guest broke one of AirBnb's biggest and most foremost of policies - and AirBnb allows the review to stand.
HOSTS BEWARE... Once again, this is proof AirBnb sides with the guests - NOT THE HOSTS.
Perfect Guests...Here for a convention and barely saw them. Welcome back anytime!
Why didn't it say 3rd party booking, never actually stayed
Calm down and listen to your fellow hosts, it might seem a bit harsh but we do feel your pain and wish to help.
You've got a lot to learn about how the system works and we can usually point folks in the right direction in responding professionally to a negative review.
@Jeff158, how are you going to help him:). I feel Kirk57's outrage. It is an example of duplicitous nature of the Airbnb policies and the utter useless, powerless Airbnb Help.. A booker, a non-guest, a non-visitor should never be allowed to submit a review just because they made the booking for someone else. A review from that person is based on a fraudulent act and cannot be valid because it is based on hearsay. How many more reviews are out there like this? Why doesn't Airbnb remove these reviews? Someone is being paid off!
@Kirk57, It is frustrating and even hurtful when guests leave less than positive reviews, especially when it is based on things that are clearly stated in the listing. Trust me, it happens to all of us at some point. However, I have to agree with the others here. The review wasn't that bad and certainly wouldn't deter me from booking, but your over the top response to it absolutely would. A short professional response to negative reviews is best because it shows you to be the better person.
Kirk, nobody here is afraid of rocking the boat and we do continually ask for change to unfair policies. But attacking your fellow hosts for trying to give you advice is not helpful. Please take a breath and put this in perspective. As you yourself stated above "I will ALWAYS stand corrected and accept criticism that has basis in truth and genuine concern". Well, this is what I would call truth and genuine concern.
Maybe Airbnb is not for you - I hate to think what you'd do if you had REALLY bad guests.
@Kirk57 It is correct that third-party bookings are against the rules. You have the right to decline third-party requests. And if you find out about it after confirming, you are entitled to have Airbnb cancel the booking for you without penalty. But once you've admitted the party onto your property and accepted their money, it's a legitimate stay and fully eligible for a review.
Future guests considering your booking can't see the individual star ratings associated with a review. But everyone can see your Host Response. Do you really think a long angry tirade shows you in your best light?
@Anonymous
re: 'But once you've admitted the party onto your property and accepted their money, it's a legitimate stay and fully eligible for a review.'
I beg to differ based on my experience:
Firstly, It's only 'legitimate' if a Host knowingly accepts a 3rd P.B.
Secondly, Host can request deletion of Review.
In 2017 - 18 I had 3 undisclosed 3rd P.B.s. In one case I requested Guest leave early (the only time I've done it). In this case and the other two Reviews & Ratings were terrible, (leading to a 5 Day pause of one of my listings).
I requested Reviews be deleted. It took some persistence to find a Case Manager who saw eye-to-eye and deleted all 3 Reviews. (The listing which had been paused shot up from 4.2 to 4.9 and soon after 5.0)
@Anonymous. I feel Kirk57's outrage. It is an example of duplicitous nature of the Airbnb policies and the utter useless, powerless Airbnb Help.. A booker, a non-guest, a non-visitor should never be allowed to submit a review just because they made the booking for someone else. A review from that person is based on a fraudulent act and cannot be valid because it is based on hearsay. How many more reviews are out there like this? Why doesn't Airbnb remove these reviews? And why are we all forced to BEG them to take down a review that is fraudulent?
@Stephen1004 Like you, I have a lot of disagreements with the way the review policy works. But every experienced host should be very well aware of the Content Policy and they time they accept a booking, and again at the time they admit a guest to their home. Hosts who feel that a booking is not legitimate would be extremely hypocritical to accept the guests' money but not their review.
I'm always astonished at how the most avid advocates for censorship on Airbnb seem to come from the largest of the few countries in the world that actually deem freedom of speech a constitutional right. This doesn't legally apply to private platforms such as Airbnb, but it does make it easier to understand why the rest of the world finds us Americans incredibly hypocritical.
Same happened to me I have a listing that says must climb stairs 17 to be exact and the review stated a complaint about how many stairs and I was given a 3 star how is that fair. Again Air BnB needs to address these issues!
++ TLDR; // learn to be concise and clear.
I just had a 3rd party booking that I wasn't aware of last week. This "individual" reported me to "health and safety" making up lies about the listing 3/4 of the way into the reservation in order to get a full refund.
I never agreed to a 3rd party booking, and just watching to see who exactly checks in isn't fair either; what if the second person checked in later than the 1st person? Should I just automatically start reporting everyone, if I don't see the picture on the profile within 24 hours? I'm not the cops, and I'm not going to just call and complain about every guest for random stuff. That defeats the purpose of hosting for Airbnb.
That person SHOULD not be allowed to post a review whatsoever because they NEVER stayed there.
Yes, I agree, that as hosts, we should refrain from sounding a "certain way" in our responses to reviews. If you are feeling angry or testy about a guest review, it's often better to wait 24 hours to give yourself time to cool off or have someone else read your response before you post it.
I also agree with your feelings about guests being able to rate the location. That's ridiculous! They can look it up and if such "bike station" isn't close enough for their taste-then they need to book somewhere else.
I would ask to have my response removed if I were you, but I also think that guest should be penalized by not informing you that it was a 3rd party booking.
I agree. This is a hidden scandal and misrepresentation by Airbnb that stranger non-guest are allowed to write a review. Same thing is happening to me.
I feel Kirk57's outrage. It is an example of duplicitous nature of the Airbnb policies and the utter useless, powerless Airbnb Help.. A booker, a non-guest, a non-visitor should never be allowed to submit a review just because they made the booking for someone else. A review from that person is based on a fraudulent act and cannot be valid because it is based on hearsay. How many more reviews are out there like this? Why doesn't Airbnb remove these reviews? Someone is being paid off!