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We are having a hard time believing that someone can come and stay at your place and then leave a review that we feel is frau...
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Good morning,
I am deeply disturbed by the events of last month and Airbnb's decision and I would like to hear from other host if they experiences similar and how they resolved it.
I thoroughly clean everything in my unit. bedrooms, linen, spreads, towels (washed/bleached)
Floors all through-out swept and mopped.
door knobs, fixtures, all disinfected.
Kitchens, bathrooms and tiles disinfected. The cleaning is so detailed that it takes me hours to do it. this is done after each and every guests.
Guest arrived, called me and complained that she had to walk thru grass on unpaved ground (no mud)
Complained that there is a hill to walk down to get to the apartment.
Once in apartment, complained that the apartment was filthy- said there was food on the floor and dish cloth was dirty.
I told her I would reclean to her satisfaction. Bought new dish-cloth. Arrived to meet a combative guest that had swept up a little sand that was tracked in by herself and 2 sons.
Pointed to a stain that cannot be removed on shower tile. Said she found a hair in the apartment. I recleaned the apartment to her satisfaction with her watching.
Guest later requested more toilet tissue and paper-towels (for a month long stay).
Guest left bags of trash in my driveway, stating she didnt want herself or nearly grown sons to walk on the dirt to get to the trash bin.
Asked to have trash bin brought to her apartment door.
left all lights on in the apartment all day while she was gone.
on Sept 17th messaged guest to ask her not to leave trash in driveway and not to leave lights on when she was not in the apartment. Lights on is visible from the outside of the apartment.
Also, there is a neighboring unit, separated by a door. The tenant in the neighboring unit reported that the kitchen light (seen through space under the door) was shining into her unit all night long which made it very difficult for her to sleep.
On Sept 17 Guest reported to Abnb that she wanted to check out do to a cleanliness issue. Abnb reached out to me and I refused to grant a refund to this guest. She had been in the apartment 10 days and her issues were addressed and resolved on day 1.
Airbnb wanted to honor the refund but I would not agree to issue and refund.
I later learn that the issue was escalated and now it was a new issue. Airbnb refused to tell me what I was accused of doing to the guests, but said there was a safety issue. They later said that I am not to enter units occupied by guests without their permission.
And they refunded $1400 to the guest and charged it to my account. So every guest that stays ABNB gets all the money and I am working for free.
Now, Abnb did not care about the trust. This guests moved out and Abnb sent me correspondence saying that the guest wanted to refund due to cleanliness and effective the same day. I went into the apartment after I received this correspondence and only turned out all the lights.
There was nothing remaining in the apartment. During the time she was there I never entered the apartment without knocking.
Why did ABNB do this and how can I dispute this decision?
There was no consideration for my side and my money and business were effected. Additionally ABNB shut my business down for 2 weeks.
How can I secure mediation?
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@Josie138 your options are small claims court and arbitration. See section 23:
https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/2908/terms-of-service
Sorry this happened to you. You are far from the first host to receive this treatment.
This is very disturbing and, I just listed a property today so I really can't offer any advice on mediation. You can't enter the property with guests unless you contact Airbnb? There's no phone number and the email address brings you to different scenarios. Although a lot of questions are answered by navigating these tutorials not all questions can be answered. So, how do you contact Airbnb for emergency issues?
@Josie138 Small claims court is cheaper than mediation
@Sydney149 phone numbers are pinned in a post at the top of the help section of this community
Thank you for the information on phone numbers.
@Josie138 your options are small claims court and arbitration. See section 23:
https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/2908/terms-of-service
Sorry this happened to you. You are far from the first host to receive this treatment.
That is very disturbing and disappointing.
It highlights a problem with long term stays.
It also serves as a warning to all hosts: When a guest starts making ridiculous complaints on or before arrival, it’s time to make plans to get rid of them ASAP.
The “this guest makes me feel unsafe” excuse might work if you don’t use it too often Z
I’m wondering if a possible tactic would be if I suddenly started feeling COVID symptoms and recommend that they leave immediately for their own safety. Full refund, of course, and my deepest apologies.
https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/2868/airbnb-guest-refund-policy
You can start with the above article and perhaps eventually find out how to dispute an inappropriate refund. They don’t make it easy and I’m afraid that success is unlikely, but you should try.
Thank you @ Brian2036,
I also agree and my first thought was to begin initiating her removal.
@Josie138 Terrible. I'm sorry to see a host treated this way by Airbnb. I have no personal experience w/small claims court, but I know there are some who have won. For $1400 it might be worth it.
In future, if you keep hosting, when a guest gaslights you like that...telling you the place is filthy when you know you've just spent hours cleaning it and then goes ballistic about walking in the dirt...get rid of them. If you had contacted Airbnb initially you would still be out the money, but the scammer wouldn't have succeeded and you would not have had to deal with all the stress.
Keep us posted.
As @Mark116 said - first unjustified complaint and I immediately offer to shorten their stay. Trying to please them makes no sense bc they complain to either shorten their stay or to get a refund at the end of their stay.
Hi @Josie138, could I please ask you to contact Customer Support again with this? I forwarded all the information you provided yesterday, but there isn't an open case, so they couldn't look into or update.
Upon doing so they will be able to investigate further.
Hope this helps.
Thank you
Hi Josie
Did you ever get this situation resolved? I've going through a similar process with a guest. She booked for three weeks. After the first week she made a complaint that the washing machine didn't work. In the listing I said there was a washing machine in the common laundry (which there was) and in the apartment. I paid $20 to the guest to use the common laundry until the washing machine was working again. The technician seemed to have no issue with the washing machine but we replaced a few parts to make it operate quieter etc. I asked the guest to leave as the premises as they weren't suitable to her. The guest refused to leave. The guest refused to open the door to the technician when he came to fix the washing machine. I paid the cleaner to attend. The guest ruined towels and bedlinen. AirBNB refunded her 30% for her booking.
I can see in AirBNB policies that I was within my rights to ask the guest to leave as the property was no longer as described if an appliance wasn't working. It seems that AirBNB does not look after their superhosts. They just like our money.
How frustrating !!
Have you considered a shorter stay policy?
How about removing the laundry facilities in the apartment? Appliances of any kind are potentially an issue for damage or the guests not understanding how to use them properly. We leave operating manuals for everything, even the coffee maker!
Ruined bed linens and towels are not unusual, I've found. This is why some hosts use linen services so they are not using their own. Also the professional services have industrial products and equipment that can better reclaim stained linens. Even with my 10 star guests, I go through a lot of linens. All it takes is a dab of face cream on a pillow case, hair products, or an accidental blood stain to eliminate bed linens, if the stains don't come out. They also show wear quickly, of course. I donate them to the local animal shelter.