Notified Airbnb that the guest was breaking my house rules and I wanted him removed

Notified Airbnb that the guest was breaking my house rules and I wanted him removed

Friday  February 7,  2020 at approximately 5:00 pm I made a complaint with Airbnb that my guest who rented my 3 bedroom apartment for 5 nights with a total of 5 guests was observed by my video doorbell bringing over 9 guests into my apartment, smoking hookah sticks, and playing loud music past 4am all in violation of my house rules. I communicated with Airbnb for over 2 hours trying to get connected to the proper department that could help me remove the guests from my apartment. I was on hold for 20 minutes when the lower level representative told me that it seemed that the department that handles such complaints didn’t have enough staff at that time to speak to me but that they would call me back as soon as someone became free. At approximately 11:00 pm I called Airbnb to tell them that no one contacted me. They told me that they are confident that a case manager would call me in the morning. The next morning I checked my Airbnb app, email, and cellphone for any messages or missed calls; there were none. So I called about noon and I still couldn’t get in touch with anyone. I left several messages with the lower level reps that couldn’t help me and sent many emails to the proper department. No one ever contacted me. My guest checked out Monday February 10, 2020 and left my apartment a mess. Every towel, sheet, bed, sofa, apparently the floor was used to sleep the couple of hours a day that they slept. 

     I finally got thru to someone at that department and they said that they can’t force the guest to pay for the extra unauthorized people that partied in my apartment. The guest admitted to having a total of 8 guests that stood the whole five days and that other guests stayed for a day or two. He offered to pay $250 for the extra guests and Airbnb stated  that I should take his offer even though it was less than half of the amount owed for the extra guests. 

     My bottom line is that I didn’t want money. I wanted these people out of my apartment and I am disgusted that Airbnb did not respond to me in an appropriate amount of time. We are supposed to be a community that respects our neighbors, guests, and hosts. This guest’s breaking  of the house rules necessitated immediate attention by Airbnb. My condo just voted by a very narrow margin to allow short term rentals in my complex of over 550 apartments. I gave this information to Airbnb. I begged them to help me remove the guest that could destroy what my fellow property owners and myself who rent short term fought so hard to attain. Unfortunately, they didn’t care. 

 

 

 

     I would love to know if anyone else had such a horrible experience. Below is the last message I sent to the representative that sent me the money

 

Your company grades me on multiple categories and even suspended one of my properties when a disgruntled guest gave me a 3 rating. Those metrics are used to create a profile of who I am even though the guests’ opinions are totally subjective. Often their ratings are based on how far the hosts can be manipulated by the guests on early check-ins, late check outs and other items or services that are outside of our responsibility. I want to know where I can record my rating of Airbnb. It’s only fair if you guys are going to judge me then I should be able to judge you. This situation goes beyond I’m missing a towel or that they broke a glass. This was a situation where a group of people were disrespectful to me, my neighbors, and my property. This situation could have gotten a lot worse. I told the first and second Airbnb representative that I can get fined $100 by my condo association for every violation (ex loud music) perpetrated by my guests and their unauthorized people.  I won’t know this till the end of March if I got any. I begged your representatives to call me back and help me get these people out. I really need to know why this happened. I speak English and Spanish. You guys had twice the opportunity to put someone on the phone with me. If as you say that there was a high call volume then Airbnb needs to hire more staff. Approximately 72 hours passed since I finally spoke to someone from your department. That span of time is ridiculous given the urgent nature of my complaint. I want your supervisor to call me and tell me what happened and to explain to me what they are doing to make sure that doesn’t happen again. Is Airbnb going to remove the guest Michael Acosta from the platform? He doesn’t deserve to be part of our community. It seems to me that Airbnb is ill equipped to deal with horrible guests like him.
     Can you please send me the link that explains exactly what options Airbnb has to deal with guests that don’t follow the house rules or are creating a dangerous condition in one of my properties. I need to know that if something happens and I need a guest to be removed from my property you guys have the legal standing to get them removed.

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Maia29
Level 10
Anchorage, AK

Always request to escalate the situation when you call when it is an urgent matter like this. If they refuse to escalate, hang up and call again and then call again until someone can handle this issue. They should have been forced to cancel. 

 

I completely understand your frustration in this matter. I had a guest similar to this at the end of January.

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Luis724  You are not talking to Airbnb here. This is just a discussion forum for hosts and guests.

Airbnb will not get an objectionable guest out of your home. How do you think they would do that?  They don't have agents they send around to deal with bad guests.

It is up to you, as the host, to deal with guests who are breaking your rules. If they won't pay up for extra guests, or get the extra people to leave, and ignore your house rules, you need to ask them to leave. Of course you involve Airbnb in this, in that you call them to let them know what is going on, that you have spoken to the guests and still won't comply, and ask Airbnb to cancel the rest of their reservation. You won't get paid for the days they didn't stya, but that's preferable to having your place trashed out.

It's your place and you are in charge, or should be, not Airbnb.

Helen3
Top Contributor
Bristol, United Kingdom

I am sorry to hear of your experience @Luis724  but confused as to why you as the host didn't go over immediately (or send your local co-host if you host remotely) to ask the guests to leave.

 

Surely your objective in this situation is not to get the payment for the extra guests that are partying at your house but to remove them asap  so you don't upset your neighbours/get your listing trashed/incurred fines.

 

I can't see anywhere in your post where you said you called the guests/messaged them on airbnb to ask the extra guests to leave/to stop partying/smoking. Nor did you appear to go to your listing.


All Airbnb can do in your situation is cancel the booking. And yes they should be able to charge the guest for the additional guests they brought in as you have video evidence.

 

Airbnb obviously doesn't have any legal standing to remove your guests. The only person who has this is you. 

 

 

Linda108
Level 10
La Quinta, CA

@Luis724   I agree with @Sarah977  and @Helen3   regarding your expectations of Air BNB action.  You did the right thing to report the problem to Air BNB, gather evidence of rule breaking and seek to evict the guest.  However, it is your responsibility to take action to get the guest out of your listing if that is your goal.  Given that you were in communication enough to establish the guest confirming the extra guests, your inaction to remove the guest, appears to undermine your concern about the behavior.  

 

 

Susan17
Level 10
Dublin, Ireland

"... the representative told me that it seemed that the department that handles such complaints didn’t have enough staff at that time to speak to me"

 

"Approximately 72 hours passed since I finally spoke to someone from your department .."

 

Yeah. That super-duper specially-trained and highly-responsive new Rapid Response Team that Airbnb has been so proudly boasting about all over the media for the past 3 months, is obviously working a treat then. Or did someone forget to give CX the memo - again? 

 

@Luis724 

Your house, your rules, your neighbours.. your responsibility to get rogue guests out, at the earliest signs of trouble. 

Hello,

     The purpose of this post was to convey a situation that I encountered with Airbnb and seek experiences from other hosts.  I did not directly engage the guest because of a situation that occurred during the Christmas season 2018 where my account was frozen for the whole week until January 2nd because of a complaint they lodged with Airbnb’s Safety and Security department. I wanted Airbnb to speak directly to them first, clearly explain my options, and act as the go between so that I don’t get kicked off the platform.

      In that situation a guest rented Christmas week for himself. I allowed an early 10am check in and only spoke to him via telephone, I was in NYC and my apartment is in Puerto Rico, where he thanked me and told me the apartment was perfect.  Approximately, at 9pm that evening he called me to complain that the apartment didn’t have cable and no sofa bed. I was confused and asked him why he needed a sofa bed if he was the only guest. Then this female got on the phone and started yelling at me in a profanity laced tirade yelling where is she going to sleep. I politely told her that I didn’t want to speak to her because she was not on the reservation and to please put the registered guest on the phone. I spoke to him and told him that it was better off if he left my place because of the unauthorized guest. The apparently contacted Airbnb’s Safety and Security department and had me kicked off the platform. Airbnb never contacted me that day to get my side of the story before kicking me of the app. This is why I didn’t directly engage the guest. 

I hear you, @Luis724, and can fully understand your reluctance to evict, based on your previous experience and clearly unfair treatment at the hands of Airbnb. 

 

However, allowing troublesome and clesrly disrespectful guests to remain in your home from Friday until Monday, could very well have resulted in far greater problems for you and your property (with your neighbours/HOA/local police etc), than having your listing temporarily suspended. That was a huge risk to take, and quite honestly, you're really quite lucky that this booking didn't end up a whole lot worse. 

 

Best of luck, hope your next guests are a lot less stressful! 🙂

Allison502
Level 2
Houston, TX

Hello and yes I’ve experienced this same problem with Airbnb. I’ve just joined this Airbnb host conversation today. I have complain to Airbnb on several occasions about guests breaking house rules, breaking my property and having too many guest in my home to no avail.

airbnb always side with the guest even when they are wrong.

It seems we as host have no recourse as long as Airbnb get their money they feed us to the wolves. 
good luck