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When traveling, it's usually common for gu...
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When traveling, it's usually common for guests to encounter unexpected situations or change in plans. Wheth...
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I got this email from airbnb today and I don't think I like it. Usually people don't read the few pre-booking questions I have for them in my listing as it is. I ask basic things like how many in your group, how many kids and what are their ages, any dog/s coming, what is the breed and are they friendly with other dogs. Very basic stuff that I NEED TO KNOW.
How many times has a host had a guest book for 1 person and then many more show up? It happens to me weekly and sometimes daily. I've had people try to book with kids under 6 years old. I don't host kids under 6. I've had guests say NOTHING about dogs accompanying them and then they show up with a dog. One guy even showed up with 3 BIG dogs! I need to know beforehand if the dogs I'm allowing on to my property (to be near my) dog are friendly.
Early on the day of the reservation I always use a saved message and ask the guest when they plan to arrive today. Sometimes people forget they even have a reservation or forget the check in time.
This message airbnb sent me today makes it seem that we can no longer ask any question BEFORE either accepting or denying the booking?! So, if I blindly accept the guest request to book for 1 person and he shows up with his family of 6 (two of the kids are under 6 years old) and his 3 dogs (who don't get along with other dogs), I'm stuck?! I cancel the reservation & lose my superhost status. Airbnb expects the guest to read and respond to questions in the welcome message AFTER BOOKING?! That's just not going to happen. I just think this is a bad bad bad idea.
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What looks to be happening is this; Airbnb want to secure a booking right at first sight of your listing. They assume the guest has read your House Rules in their entirety and they want to take a booking deposit. After that, your questions will be an affirmation of your House Rules and any questions will have to happen in the 48hr period before the guests free cancellation period ends. (You essentially will be trying to put your guests off carrying on with their booking with you if they are not a good fit).
You pretty much will need to obtain affirmation of those restrictions you have. People, dogs, kids... Basically, if the booking is made and the guest turns up with undisclosed group entities they will need to be cancelled on arrival. Who might do this... Guests or Host? That really will be a problem.
After reading this part of the email, I don't think so... "we noticed that you use a feature to ask guests questions about their trip before they book."
If I were using IB I wouldn't even have a chance to ask a guest any questions before they booked... only after.
@Donald28 Yes, actually those questions ARE shown to guests BEFORE they complete the IB process. (Shown, doesn’t mean they actually respond to them)
this isnt talking about you not being able to talk/vet prior to booking if you don’t IB, but rather is a step in the booking process during an IB
I do not think so since I don't use instant book and airbnb would know that. Why send hosts this email if it doesn't pertain to them?
Did anyone who uses IB also get this email recently?
Donald28 -
Yes, I received this email on Wednesday (Australian time), and we do use Instant Book.
I was somewhat confused, because we only ask one question (tell us what brings you to our area), but that is already in our "welcome message before booking", which was where the link in the email took us. As per the email, this stays the same.
What I couldn't figure out was where we had set any questions for guests about their trip before booking. After reading some posts here, this is not visible on the web interface, but is only on the app. It's under a separate heading for "Questions", just below "Greeting".
Oddly, we don't use it at the moment anyway - possible we did when we first set up our listing.
Hopefully that will all be ok...
- Keith
Can someone clarify where exactly the field is for this new Welcome Message? I can't find it . Is it the box under where it reads:
Guest trip information
Sarah -
It is still in the same place as the original Welcome Message - the link in the email takes you there (on the web interface, at least).
On the web interface, under the "Listing" main menu, click on "Booking settings". On that screen, click on the "Edit" button beside "Guest requirements".
At the bottom of that screen, enter your message and/or questions in the field under:
Your welcome message before booking
Guests will see your message before they confirm their reservation.
- Keith
It almost sounds like you are claiming that AirBnB is eliminating any way for you to ask a guest questions.
when a guest Instant Books, I uses saved messages to communicate with them through the Inbox or I write directly to them through the Inbox to be sure they are in compliance with my House Rules.
For inquiries, I respond through the Inbox.
It almost sounds as if you are interpreting their message to mean that we will no longer be able to message guests through the Inbox.
Am I misreading something?
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What about Inquiries coming in through your Inbox or Instant Bookings?
Can't you reply through the Inbox when someone make an Inquiry?
And when someone Instant Books you can ask them questions via the Inbox?
I'm wondering where the difference lies.
After having recently booked a couple of stays, my impression is that the booking process is paramount and no faffing around with questions and answers are to be tolerated.
Maybe guests who are experienced and know that they can enquire will know where that (small blue link) is and want to enquire before booking will still be able to, but guests who 'instant book' will have your welcome message automatically sent containing what was previously your pre-booking questions. This puts the decision of cancelling within 48 hours for free on the guest. After that, if they don't read, don't ask, don't disclose... they're booked!
I think that airbnb doesn't want any booking denied by a host. A denied booking is lost money for them. If they can quelch our pre booking communication and turn all interested guests into booked, paying guests, airbnb is doing much better. If they allow us to communicate at all, it can only hurt the potential booking process... possibly causing a decline instead of an acceptance. think about it.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Are they going to eliminate our prebooking communication completely?
No thats what it feels like. How does it sound to you?
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"This puts the decision of cancelling within 48 hours for free on the guest. After that, if they don't read, don't ask, don't disclose... they're booked"
Are you talking about an inquiry? I am not following this conversation very well, and I don't believe that I'm that dense. But maybe I am.
What if they instant book for one but they intend to bring three?
These types are easily discerned. When I spot them I send a Message through the inbox Asking them to confirm exactly how many guests will be coming.
When someone makes an inquiry about booking for one guest, I ask them how many guests will be coming.
How will this change through the new system?
I'm not seeing how anything will be different.
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These types are easily discerned. When I spot them I send a Message through the inbox Asking them to confirm exactly how many guests will be coming.
When someone makes an inquiry about booking for one guest, I ask them how many guests will be coming.
How will this change through the new system?
I think airbnb might be stopping prebooking communication between hosts and guests. You won't be able to ask them how many people are coming PRIOR to accepting the booking for 1 person.
Sure, if 1 person books and you message them after the booking and they say 5 people are really coming... and you make a request to change the reservation... which adds more costs to the reservation, the guest can decline or agree and leave you a bad review later.
It just doesn't sound good for hosts. Go read airbnbs email to me again. You'll see what I mean.
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No more Inbox?
So, they will be eliminating the Inbox? No more messaging guests?
That just doesn't sound feasible.