What does "no smoking" mean???

[Willow3]

So, I'm left wondering... when I listed my property and check "no smoking" - that meant to me, that there was to be no smoking, inside or out.  But as I read the forums, many interpret it to mean no smoking indoors only.  

I just had a guest chain smoke on the patio - and I feel he didn't follow the house rules.  But maybe I'm alone in this thinking?

[Jessica-and-Henry0]

@Bruce43 Haha!!! Adding "smokers are not welcome" actually has not affected my bookings at all - I honestly did not think my listing would do so well. Seems like there are plenty of non-smokers in the world too 🙂 

To be totally honest, Henry is a smoker - but he goes outside the gate of the apartment complex 3~4 times a day to smoke because he knows how much it bothers me. He has a separate set of clothes he wears when he goes out to smoke and he always washes up to get the smell off his face and hands. I don't expect most smokers to be this considerate of non-smokers, which is why I'd rather not host a smoker at all. I'm usually not sensitive about most things but the smell of cigarette smoke bothers me a lot. Henry and I agreed from the start that we'd rather have an empty room and no Airbnb income than having a guest that makes being in my own home stressful - the money is not worth it.

@Branka-and-Silvia0 As a smoker, Henry LOVED being in Paris & London. 

[James662]

As a smoker ( outdoors only ) I just passed up a dozen places, finally found one that is happy for it to be outside, although a lot of people will not admit it, they smoke, you could be missing out on a lot customers, just saying 

[David126]

Also a non smoker but they can do what they want outside.

[Natasha3 · Accepted solution]

My listing says "No smoking anywhere on the property" but in my house manual I specify Not in the hallway, not on the porch, not by the window. 

Some people willingly on unwillingly interpret "property" the way it suits them, so it's better to specify to avoid unnecessary confrontation. Our house layout is such that the porch is right below my windows so all that smoke and stench gets inside.

[Willow3]

Same with my place... the patio is under my bedroom window.  And we don't do AC here, so windows are wide open.  Yuck.  

[Willow3]

Thanks for chiming in.  It seems "no smoking" is open to interpretation.  Though with these particular guests, I don't think they care.  I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure they smoked in the room too.  The rubbish bin was filled with butts... and if the ones smoked outdoors where deposited in the fire pit - I don't believe for a second they carried half of them inside, to put in the rubbish bin.  

*heads off to the make the no smoking rule much more explicit and obvious*

[Karen-and-Brian0]

Hi @Willow3 I feel your pain. This caught us off-guard too. We thought "No Smoking" meant no smoking anywhere, and were in the same boat as you the first time we had guests who smoked. They did have the courtesy to smoke outside thankfully but, because I hadn't provided any ashtrays or sand buckets, there were cigarette butts everywhere. UGH. I've since modified our listing to say smoking is allowed outside only - we have an acreage & if I said no smoking anywhere on the property I know they would do it anyway. No problems since I put the sand buckets & ashtrays outside. - Karen

[Farah1]

@Willow3 since there is no detailed definition on the website, I updated my house rules regarding smoking. This is what I have > • No smoking/vaping of any kind anywhere on the property

[Kati18]

In my building it's against the strata bylaws to smoke anywhere on common property or within 6 feet of any window or opening.  So I have to be very specific because I don't want to get fined.  So my house rules state "there is no smoking or vaping in the building/apartment or any outdoor common space, including the balcony".

So far I've been lucky - the only smells I've had to deal with are excessive cologne and a bit of body odor.  Those are a little harder to put in the house rules.

[Edy1]

Hahahaha

[Ethna1]

I don't want smokers at all, if they are a heavy smoker their clothes smell and they transfer this smell on to cushions, bedding and dressing gowns, even if they smoke outside it drifts round the premises, 

[Gordon0]

My listing is - I think - very clear in that smokers are not welcome. I don't want their hair on my pillows or their clothes in my wardrobe. 

Ex-smokers are the worst, and I know it. 

[Annette76]

I’m a former smoker who absolutely loved smoking when I did. I quit many years ago and have become super sensitive to smoke in the ensuing years. So much so that a plumber was at our house and was outside smoking and stopped me to give me an update on the repairs and such. After about 5 minutes I had to bolt into the house to throw up. My husband was cracking up as the plumber felt so bad and kept apologizing. 

At my rental I’m going to list it as non smoking but will designate that smoking is allowed out where the fire pit is, but they must be sure to dispose of butts appropriately. I will have a few metal buckets with sand in them for this purpose. My issue with the butts is due to my pets, not being around cigarettes means my dogs would probably pick one up and try to eat it if they found one. Nicotine can be toxic to dogs so I will be adamant on this one! 

I have a screened porch on the cabin, but there is furniture with fabric out there so I don’t want the smell to get in there! 

[Emiel1]

Hi,

It's not only about the smoking itself, also about the smoking guest's behaviour which i don't want to see around my house, even if it is not my property. Like: guests very frequently moving in/out the house, also on strange hours, walking up and down the patio or street, hidden somewhere in the (dark) garden, continuesly returning with dirty shoes, more risk of complaining  neighbours, an unsafe feeling when it is in the late hours, etc..  So for me: No smokers.

Best regards,

Emiel

[Courtney420]

Ummm—I think your experience of smokers is very limited! 😂

Dirty shoes? Have you ever seen the film _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_? I assure you, Audrey Hepburn’s shoes are immaculate.