Hostile message from potential guest, in reference to my Pet Policies

Dawn402
Level 3
Newport, RI

Hostile message from potential guest, in reference to my Pet Policies

I received an initial message last night, from a potential guest, inquiring about my Pet Policies.  Message as follows:

 

"Hi I’m planning a trip to visit my parents who live in Bristol at the end of September and we would like to bring our dog and I see that you do have some options but just to discuss or a first I have a Cavalier King Charles spaniel he is eight years old and very quiet sleeps most the time his name is Nigel and very lovable we probably won’t be there very much as my dad is in a nursing home and will be visiting him throughout the day. Please let me know if you are open to letting us bring our dog and also I wanted to check with you on the location in Portsmith I’m familiar with certain areas I know with the shopping areas are and grocery stores but I know there’s other spots that are not too familiar for me." - *DISCLAIMER: The wording/spelling in her message is verbatim; grammar usage was not altered by me, in any way.  

 

My response message:

 

[Greetings xxxx,

 

We do allow one dog, in the room which you are inquiring about. Our pet polices are as follows:

*A non-refundable pet fee of $50, per night, will be incurred.
*Pet must weigh 15 pounds or less.
*One pet allowed, per room.
*Pets are prohibited from lying on/sleeping on our beds/linens or furniture and must be crated while you are not in your room.
*Pets cannot be present in the dining area during breakfast service, per state and local health department regulations.
*Should any of the other quests be allergic to, have an "aversion to" or be afraid of dogs, we require that he/she be kept in your room, when other guests are present in the common areas (living room, kitchen and dining area).
*Pet must always be on a controlled leash, when not inside of the guest room.
*Pet must be walked only on the designated pet area(s) of the property.
*Guest is responsible for cleaning up after their pet on the outside property and properly disposing of the waste in the outside designated trash receptacle.
*Guest room is subject to damage inspection, at any time and upon checkout.
*Noise/Disruptive complaints: If the Innkeeper receives more than 2 (two) complaints, alternative arrangements must be made for your pet.
*In the event that your pet has an "accident" - there will be a charge for necessary cleaning and/or a charge of 100% of fair replacement value, should any non-repairable damage occur to the property, including, but not limited to guest room, furnishings, rugs, décor or linens.

 

We also require a signature and date on all these policies. The document can be emailed to you.

 

Kindest regards,

Dawn - Innkeeper]

 

*NOTE: In addition, I sent her a separate response message, in reference to her inquiry about the location of my property, advising her that it is in close proximity to the local town hall and police station.  I did not offer the exact location. 

 

Due to the fact that I had not received a response, after an hour and a half, I then sent her a follow up message and declined her inquiry to book.  

 

[Hello xxxx,

 

Since you haven't responded back to my email, I am assuming that our pet policies do not suit your needs.

Respectfully,

Dawn - Innkeeper]

 

She responded an hour and a half later:  

 

"I read over your pet policy and I don’t understand why you charge $50 a night for a pet fee which means it would cost us $200 to bring our dog with us to state your property which is more than what hotel would charge also how can you charge $50 a night for a pet fee but if my dog has an accident there’s an additional charge on top of that don’t you think that’s a little excessive honestly I don’t want to stay at your property just for that reason alone because that is just totally an equitable for the customer and it seems to me that you might be trying to make a profit off of somebody else’s circumstances of having to bring your pet with them. Hardly believe they actually cost you $50 a day to have a pet sit there and sleep in the bedroom honestly let’s be fair about this I think this Airbnb ancillary charges are getting a little out of control which is really too bad because it’s going to force people like us who are looking for accommodations to go back to using hotels because it’s on affordable to stay at Airbnb’s because of all these additional charges I hope you take my thoughts and comments into consideration when setting your policies and setting your rates because it’s going to come around again where people are gonna be using Airbnb anymore because the prices are just getting out-of-control think about it." - *DISCLAIMER: The wording/spelling in her message is verbatim; grammar usage was not altered by me, in any way.  

 

I proceeded to report this user to AIRBNB and sent her the following message:

 

[Due to the hostility in your message, I have reported you to AIRBNB customer service. Please refrain from sending any further messages to me.]

 

She responded, immediately, with the following message:

 

"My questions and my comments are totally legitimate and warranted if you’re gonna put yourself out there and do business you have to be prepared to handle questions and concerns from customers whether you like them or not and I hardly find anything in my tone or my questioning hostile their confrontational and assertive but not hostile don’t confuse the two." - *DISCLAIMER: The wording/spelling in her message is verbatim; grammar usage was not altered by me, in any way.  

 

My response:

 

[Definition of confrontational: tending to deal with situations in an aggressive way; hostile or argumentative.  
As previously requested: Please refrain from contacting me again. Thank you.]

 

Her response:

 

"I think I’m going to have a conversation with Customer Service myself and see where we go with this. And the definition of hostile is belligerent violence and combative and I would never describe any of the messages I sent you as the above."  *DISCLAIMER: The wording/spelling in her message is verbatim; grammar usage was not altered by me, in any way.  

 

My response:

 

[I'm sure they they would love to hear from you. Best of luck with that.]

 

*The conversation ended at this point.

 

As of this morning, I have yet to receive any form of communication from AIRBNB on this matter.  I attempted to block the aforementioned user, however I am not able to do so, via the AIRBNB site.  

 

Any suggestions, as to how I should proceed with this issue??

 

*ON A SIDE NOTE; THIS USER HAS THE FOLLOWING DETAILS LISTED ON HER PROFILE:

 

"I’m a very private person and periodically travel within the domestic US and internationally. When I use Airbnb my main focus is the trip and I really don’t want to spend time socializing with hosts and prefer to go about my own business and not engage in small talk. I’m extremely neat and orderly. I choose potential listings that reflect similar surroundings to my home; neat, tastefully decorated, comfortable and efficient. Also I try to leave things exactly the way I found them and I take very good care of the place while I’m there. Most importantly for me is that the bed is comfortable and is accessorized with quality pillows and linens, frankly nothing is more unsavory than old used pillows that have an unpleasant odor, stubby sheets and flimsy comforters or duvets. Most of the time I’m gone and not lounging at the property. That being said I really depend heavily on quality and restful sleep and if I didn’t sleep well enough I probably won’t return to the place. I’m fair and straightforward with the business aspect of Airbnb as far as scheduling and payment. Finally I really wish the communication system would be more flexible within the Airbnb universe. It seems cumbersome to have to use the app to send and respond to text messages regarding scheduling logistics. I think providing the option to communicate live initially between the host and guest prior to finalizing the transaction would possibly minimize confusion."  - *DISCLAIMER: The wording/spelling listed above is verbatim; grammar usage was not altered by me, in any way.  

 

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Donald28
Level 10
Lithia Springs, GA

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I concur wholeheartedly! 

 

I will admit...the negative interaction did bother me...I am a "people pleaser" and upsetting people goes against my nature.  Needless to say, I didn't sleep very well last night.  

Donald28
Level 10
Lithia Springs, GA

With all her requirements... this guest sounds like a nightmare and a bad review waiting to happen. Best to have declined her. 

Mark116
Level 10
Jersey City, NJ

 

@Dawn402  I wouldn't want to host this person, but I don't agree that her message was overly 'hostile' to the point that she needed to be reported to airbnb.

Well...we are all entitled to our opinions and they don't always match with others.  Although I do not agree with your viewpoint, I do respect it and appreciate your input.  

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@Dawn402  @@Mark116

 

I most definitely agree with Dawn on this one.  Good on you for reporting this somewhat deranged person. You may have saved someone else some aggravation.

 

You did the right thing, Dawn.

 

And thanks for the great, well written post you did of the incident. Excellent job!

 

Great use of paragraphs, easy to read for a long post.

 

Don't let the naysayers bother you. they are lost souls.  You can easily identify them on this forum.

 

Again, great job!

 

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@John1574  - Knowing that I have a host of your outstanding caliber, in my corner, has put my mind at ease that I made the correct choice of reporting this user!  

 

I find it disheartening to discover that a large percentage of hosts (who have made their flippant opinions distinctly clear ) dispute...even mock...my choice, instead of supporting it.  

 

The fact that they possess such a lackadaisical attitude towards the frustration I experienced with this user is unsettling.  

 

Should I have merely dismissed the user's irreverence and lack of respect for my business choices?  Should I have "moved on"..."let it go" (as numerous hosts proposed) and not bothered reporting her?  She blatantly defamed AIRBNB in her profile and profusely elucidated her personal disdain for the company.  

 

On that point: I find myself scratching my forehead, in reference to the shared opinions, by several hosts, who are contemptuous towards AIRBNB, yet they continue to partner with this company.  There are a cornucopia of other booking engines at their disposal.  

 

I am passionate about my profession and my Inn.  I repudiate a potential guest who displays complete disregard for how I choose to operate my business, as well a fellow host who attempts to challenge my work ethic and questions my decisions to be accountable.  

 

"Empathy is one of our greatest tools of business that is most underused." - Daniel Lubetzky

 

[she proceeds to jump down from her soap-box...putting an end to her rant...and takes a deep, cleansing breath...]

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@Dawn402 

 

Welcome to the Community Forum. . . Lol but watch your back.

 

In many areas of the AirBnB business world there are troubled people like your potential guest, but also troubled hosts and . . .  many troubled contributors to this forum. They are, as I tried to tell you "lost souls" looking for a source of gratification.But they are just as likely looking to bring someone down so as to share their misery and spread it around.

 

Rebuke them just a bit, point out their outrageous behavior and they go off on a diatribe revealing their delusions like one just did after being slightly rebuked for attacking you and calling you unprofessional.

 

I'm as mind-boggled as you are that you're getting so much snark and insensitivity after the effort it took you to craft that beautiful narrative for all our benefit.

 

Two of my favorite expressions, No good deed goes unpunished. and the road to ruin is paved with good intentions.come to mind.

 

But now you know how to identify the "Lost Souls": they reveal themselves early on in interactions.

 

You handled that disturbed woman perfectly, and you did a great job in conveying the experience to us through your excellent writing skills.. And you handled the "lost souls" with great patience. I may incorporate some of your technique.

 

Thanks for you contribution, Dawn.

 

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I agree. that was not hostile or reportable to airbnb. 

Jennifer1421
Level 10
Peterborough, Canada

TBH, @Dawn402 , I'd be happy to have dodged this bullet. She sounds like a piece of work, and her profile message just sounds like a bad review waiting to happen. In a nutshell, she's saying she chooses Airbnb because it's cheap, but isn't interested in the niceties, such as  being pleasant to her hosts or accepting that our listings are less expensive because we don't (necessarily) offer high end amenities in our homes.

 

Personally, if I had to travel with a pet, I'd find your charges excessive, too. However, I'd  just thank you for your response and let you know that I didn't think your listing would be a good fit, then withdraw the request (if that's what it was, rather than an inquiry). After all, it's your prerogative to run your listing however suits you best. Arguing with you about it is totally unacceptable and completely pointless.

 

She is clearly better suited to a hotel. We should all be thankful that she's considering going back to them, and keep our collective fingers crossed that she makes good on that.

@Jennifer1421 - I greatly appreciate your input!  

 

The primary reason that I chose to charge $50 per night, for a pet, is to deter guests from requesting to bring them.  Although I adore doggies, I have had NUMEROUS issues with allowing them to stay at my Inn.  

 

Even though I am transparent and detailed with my policies, previous guests have not adhered to them.  In addition, guests have been dishonest with the weight of their pet.  I allow small dogs (15 lbs or under) and have had guests who claimed that their dog was within this range...and showed up with a Golden Retriever, a German Shepard and a mixed breed, who was not small.  

 

Guests have allowed their dog on the furniture and to sleep with them on the bed.  I had one guest wake me up, in the middle of the night, because their pet had vomited on the comforter and they wanted a clean one!

 

I am considering not allowing pets at all...

 

QUESTION:  In your opinion, what is a fair nightly Pet Fee?  

@Dawn402I kind of figured that the nightly fee for a pet WAS to discourage them entirely.

 

I have no idea what a fair fee is, as I don't travel with pets (even when I had one) and haven't got a clue what the going rate is. I'd just find your fee high for myself. If that is the going rate, then I'd be leaving Fluffy at home 🙂

 

Like you, I adore animals, but I don't allow pets in my listing (with the obvious exception of service animals, which are not "pets" anyway). I worry about potential guest allergies, and, given how difficult it is to remove human hair, I'd be losing my mind with dog or cat hair!

 

Given the issues you've had, I'd make my listing "pet free", full stop. It gives you total discretion,  and would've given you the ability to not need to engage with this guest at all - a simple, "Sorry, no can do" would've sufficed.

@Jennifer1421 - I genuinely appreciate your input, advice and suggestions!

 

Thank you so very much for taking the time to respond to my post!  

 

I think that I am going to heed your suggestion and change my listing to "Pet Free"!

@Jennifer1421  My thoughts exactly.  I have 2 properties that are pet friendly places and I travel with my schnauzer when possible.  $50 a night would have made me leave him at home.  The requirement to crate him would have been impossible because I can't/won't fly with a crate.  I would have had a polite interaction and realized the property wasn't a good fit for me if I was travelling with my dog.

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